The January Transfer Scouting Thread

[brasil_spur]

It's not because that money is written off against their value on the books.
So, if we bought Ndombele for 60 million his value on the books after 3 years is still 30 million.
So if we sell him for 15 million we make a 15 million loss not a 15 million gain.

So then we sign £200m players all on 5 year contracts and it only shows as £40m for the year, add the loses to that and we’re maybe at a £75m cost, it works both ways.

There are many accounting processes that we can and seemingly do use to our advantage, I’m not here to discuss the best way to balance our books as frankly none of us have enough insight into the clubs overall finances and most of us aren’t experienced accountants capable of doing so.

 

[rabbikeane]

Paid over time, we are both owed and owe transfer money. A year or so ago we were at -150m.
The people who run the club have to look at transfer fees in a far different way than what fans and the media do.

 

[Trix]

Bonnucci not likely for a number of reasons, we have spoken to De Vrij and one other.

 

[brasil_spur]

Paid over time, we are both owed and owe transfer money. A year or so ago we were at -150m.
The people who run the club have to look at transfer fees in a far different way than what fans and the media do.

Yes and no.

As you say all clubs structure deals. In addition clubs like ours have a lot of other areas of income outside of just football. We’re a complex business and as such will likely employ whatever accounting processes we legally can to keep things looking “steady”.

But none of that really matters because as fans we simply don’t have access to the finances in a way that would allow us to do a deep dive in this area and if we did we would just be speculating as to how a future purchase may or may not be accounted for.

As fans we can only look at it in black and white, and in some respects a player that we buy for £50m costs us £50m, it’s that simple.

Perhaps a better way to think of it is “we have £100m (made up number) available to se aside in our accounts for player purchases this window”. That might mean we pay £100m lump sum for players, or we might have £50m lump sum and the rest set aside for instalments, or we might pay £20m in loan fees with £80m buy options in a years time, with the buy options then due either in lump sum or in instalments. But the £100m set aside is still the value of the players we can sign.

 

[djhotspur]

Bonnucci not likely for a number of reasons, we have spoken to De Vrij and one other.

Thanks as always trix

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I can see De Vrij happening.

Conte loved him as his CCB at Inter, he's a very experienced player and has performed at a very high level for a number of seasons for Lazio and Inter.

Contract running out, Inter looking for fresh defenders. I can see the fee being quite low and suiting us and Inter (£10-15m range).

I just hope he isn't past his best. His form has dipped and a lot of Inter fans think he's past his best now which could be a concern with him then coming to the high intensity PL.

However, his form also dipped when his contract was running out at Lazio and he then performed superbly at his new club Inter. Added to this, Inzaghi's system leaves the defence a lot more exposed than Conte's system does according to a friend of mine who follows Inter and this may have also contributed to De Vrij losing form (bear in mind that other defenders have also lost form under him, Bastoni for example).

 

[SpartanSpur]

I can see De Vrij happening.

Conte loved him as his CCB at Inter, he's a very experienced player and has performed at a very high level for a number of seasons for Lazio and Inter.

Contract running out, Inter looking for fresh defenders. I can see the fee being quite low and suiting us and Inter (£10-15m range).

I just hope he isn't past his best. His form has dipped and a lot of Inter fans think he's past his best now which could be a concern with him then coming to the high intensity PL.

However, his form also dipped when his contract was running out at Lazio and he then performed superbly at his new club Inter. Added to this, Inzaghi's system leaves the defence a lot more exposed than Conte's system does according to a friend of mine who follows Inter and this may have also contributed to De Vrij losing form (bear in mind that other defenders have also lost form under him, Bastoni for example).

It's a risk but it could be a good option for January. We saw first hand how quickly two world class CBs tailed off in their early 30s in the PL, but at least this wouldn't be a huge financial outlay like Koulibaly.

De Vrij certainly has good pedigree and knows Conte's system inside out. If we truly wanted to challenge we should be looking at Bastoni or Skriniar instead, this feels more like a typical Spurs punt (i.e. The obvious/easier/cheaper deal).

 

[gavspur]

Porro looks fantastic, can cross from very deep as well as byline, which could really compliment Deki’s play, and cause havoc down that side for the opposition.
Unfortunately, Barca and both Madrid teams are thinking the same way!

 

[Dunc2610]

We spent a summer chasing Inter players and we got nowhere, I can't see that changing in a January window!

 

[Finchyid]

I just hope he isn't past his best. His form has dipped and a lot of Inter fans think he's past his best now which could be a concern with him then coming to the high intensity PL.

Anything has to better than Dier at the moment

 

[King of the Lane]

It's a risk but it could be a good option for January. We saw first hand how quickly two world class CBs tailed off in their early 30s in the PL, but at least this wouldn't be a huge financial outlay like Koulibaly.

De Vrij certainly has good pedigree and knows Conte's system inside out. If we truly wanted to challenge we should be looking at Bastoni or Skriniar instead, this feels more like a typical Spurs punt.

Disagree, this doesnt feel like a typical Spurs punt. Trix said that Conte wants a leader at the back to organise the defensive line. Bastoni isnt that player but De Vrij is. Bastoni is probably a target for the summer but right now we need someone to organise and manage us at the back.

 

[Trix]

We spent a summer chasing Inter players and we got nowhere, I can't see that changing in a January window!

Well if they don't sell in January or get him to sign a new deal he goes for free 6 months later.

 

[Ben1]

It's a risk but it could be a good option for January. We saw first hand how quickly two world class CBs tailed off in their early 30s in the PL, but at least this wouldn't be a huge financial outlay like Koulibaly.

De Vrij certainly has good pedigree and knows Conte's system inside out. If we truly wanted to challenge we should be looking at Bastoni or Skriniar instead, this feels more like a typical Spurs punt.

Typical spurs punt...just like all the other over 30s in our squad that we've paid a fee for?

 

[Tucker]

Not surprised that Bonucci was unrealistic. Hope we can get the kind of leader Conte wants regardless of this.

 

[brasil_spur]

Porro looks fantastic, can cross from very deep as well as byline, which could really compliment Deki’s play, and cause havoc down that side for the opposition.
Unfortunately, Barca and both Madrid teams are thinking the same way!

Let's just hope he wants CL football this season then and it comes down to a 2 horse race.

 

[brasil_spur]

We spent a summer chasing Inter players and we got nowhere, I can't see that changing in a January window!

For those that are coming out of contract in the summer then Inter will want to cash in, for no other reason than to re-invest the money. If De-Vrij is out of favour/form at Inter right now then it makes little sense for them to not sell him for £15m in Jan.

 

[GioW]

Think De Vrij and Mckennie might be the 2.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Disagree, this doesnt feel like a typical Spurs punt. Trix said that Conte wants a leader at the back to organise the defensive line. Bastoni isnt that player but De Vrij is. Bastoni is probably a target for the summer but right now we need someone to organise and manage us at the back.

Personally I think we need more overall quality back there full stop, and preferably a bit more athleticism. De Vrij might be an organiser/leader, but that's one of Dier's supposed key attributes and just like De Vrij he can be badly exposed when we play higher up the pitch. I don't think he adds a great deal of security to us as a team (like VVD did for Liverpool) but obviously I'd love to be proven wrong. I know he was considered world class under Conte.

Typical spurs punt...just like all the other over 30s in our squad that we've paid a fee for?

Feels like the easy/cheap deal to do, as opposed to the best solution, which is more my basis for a typical Spurs punt.

 

[Lukasz]

Think De Vrij and Mckennie might be the 2.

I hope it’s De Vrij and Dumfries.

 

[Flobadob]

I’ll be watching De Vrij very closely at the World Cup now then! You’d have thought if he’s been taking his foot off the gas for Inter due to his contract/his head being turn then he would show his true level for his national team in a World Cup. Will be interesting to see how he performs