The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[BringBack_leGin]

Again, that’s the point. Poch wants a revolution, Spurs need one, and Levy didn’t green light it. This comes back to him again and again.

Which manager out of Rodgers, Lampard, Emery, Hodgson, Dyche, Howe and Pellegrini, at this point in time, has as good as or better players to choose from?

 

[Haddock]

Who? Lenin?

Can we have just one thread where you don’t blame Lenin?

I personally blame Stalin.

 

[Mr Pink]

Waiting for him to play his hand. So no matter what opinions are offered here, none are right or wrong. Just superfluous to the fact that it’s Levy’s call. Which is all I’m trying to say.

Well yeah, agree ?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

We'd look about the same as England I'd say, we've shown we can turn it on vs poor opposition already this season, Kane would be fine with the space afforded which he doesn't get vs Prem teams. people will point to Colchester but that was our reserves.

I respectfully disagree.

 

[Dougal]

Which manager out of Rodgers, Lampard, Emery, Hodgson, Dyche, Howe and Pellegrini, at this point in time, has as good as or better players to choose from?

I really don’t care. The wife let me have a lie in and I’m not continuing to waste it by studying Bournemouth’s defensive options.

Dougal out.

 

[dontcallme]

I personally blame Stalin.

Nah, Poch, I mean Stalin, is just the face implementing Levy’s, I mean Lenin’s, philosophy

 

[wrd]

I think we need to nip this notion of Kane down toolsing and the idea of that it's a choice of selling Kane or sticking with Poch in the bud, first of all he if he was then he should be held to the same standard as Eriksen, Alder, Vert, Rose and anybody else we have been critical of because he's meant to be the standard setter and I'd be extremely disappointed if he chose that route as I expect better of him. I don't believe that to be the case so the second point we might have to accept is that the injuries have really taken it's toll and he's lost he's dynamism and isn't the player he used to be, which would be devastating. I really don't believe that Kane is the type to give the actions of it's me or the manager.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

I really wanted the manager to turn it around and build again but my feeling is that he doesn’t want to anymore and I do have sympathy with him on this because when the chance was there to make that final push the people above chose to drift.

I actually think he might have been tapped up(probably by Utd)and is waiting to be sacked so his new team don’t have to pay compensation. Might be completely wrong but just a gut feeling and we know that sort of thing goes on all the time in football

 

[Haddock]

Nah, Poch, I mean Stalin, is just the face implementing Levy’s, I mean Lenin’s, philosophy

Guess that would make Tim Sherwood = Leon Trotsky ?

 

[dontcallme]

I think the point with Kane is more to do with whether he is motivated and happy.

Any player, or employee, will perform better in a good environment.

For years Kane could have gone to a bigger club but stayed.

He is a figurehead at the club and has earned the respect of most fans.

If Poch is going to mismanage him then at best we get a world class player not performing to his premium level and it won’t be because he is intentionally not trying.

 

[TTID2002]

Get the sense that we're not a club capable of giving Poch the resources he needs to nuke the entire squad and start over (which is needed since we haven't invested in the last couple years), but don't want to let him go because he'd go to United where he'd get that very opportunity.

 

[shelfboy68]

Who? Lenin?

Can we have just one thread where you don’t blame Lenin?

He plays for Burnley now doesn't he so is absolved of blame.

 

[dontcallme]

Guess that would make Tim Sherwood = Leon Trotsky ?

Sherwood is definitely Rasputin. For no good reason had the ear of many powerful people then was disposed of before he could do some real damage.

 

[allatsea]

I understand that the manager is ultimately responsible. Even so the whole "not playing for the manager" thing just completely disconnects me from the players who are earning more in a week than I will in god knows how long and are just running down their contracts so they can leave anyway.

A weird feeling supporting spurs at the moment.

I haven’t seen much supporting of Spurs going on in the various threads in Spurs Chat Forum.

 

[wrd]

I respectfully disagree.

Well England have managed to this season alone, struggle against a poor Kosovo side, lost to the Czech Republic and in both of those games, Kane was afforded nothing by his teammates and the only chances we had came from his play. We have managed to batter a terrible Bulgaria team which was opened up by a piece of individual skill by Rashford and then they had to come out. Spurs have proven vs the likes of Palace and Southampton that vs the lower standard of teams when we take the lead we can similarly rip them apart and actually look like a coherent team. The Margin between a Bulgaria side losing already before Kane was able to turn it on and a Watford side with a lead after 5 minutes with some great quality players is vast. To use that as evidence to show that Kane is choosing when to play well or not frankly falls flat given the huge jump in skill and the situation both games were in and I'd say the level of difficulty in the two scenarios is the reason he was able to perform better not because he is downing tools and has lost faith in the manager.

 

[Romulus]

I really don't like the way he's blaming the atmosphere.

We've been playing dull unimaginative football for months.

If anything he should praising the fans for tolerating it for so long, and apologising for letting it continue.

what does he expect?

someone said that no premier league team has lost more games in 2019 than spurs which is shocking. Arse, Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool wouldn't put up with that

 

[Essex Spur]

Argh come on we Didnt show shite... we were pure bollocks the entire game ???

We showed some fight and passion but literally in the last 10 minutes

 

[shelfboy68]

Get the sense that we're not a club capable of giving Poch the resources he needs to nuke the entire squad and start over (which is needed since we haven't invested in the last couple years), but don't want to let him go because he'd go to United where he'd get that very opportunity.

Then we have to ask question of ENIC and levy as to what they want out of the club if success is not what they desire apart from making a shed load of money, if success is not their driver then sell us off to people that will look or have the ambition for domination.

 

[bubble07]

The first Amazon documentary should be Levy calling Poch into his boardroom to fire him

He can borrow the same booster chair Lord sugar uses

 

[dontcallme]

The first Amazon documentary should be Levy calling Poch into his boardroom to fire him

He can borrow the same booster chair Lord sugar uses

Can definitely do an Apprentice series for our next manager.