The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[ajspurs]

I reckon he can’t get Mourinho to take the job and he doesn’t know who else to go for. Remember how he took 9 months to appoint Santini? Also remember Poch was Joe Lewis’s pick and not Levys?

I reckon he doesn’t know who to replace him with and Mourinho doesn’t want the job.

I just don't think he intends to sack him any time soon to be honest mate. We will stick with him through the Xmas period IMO and maybe reassess halfway through the season but even then, I can't see us sacking Poch just before the January window either.

I don't know, for whatever reason I just don't get the vibe that this is a major major crisis within the club or just that Pochettino is on the brink of being sacked. The perception from many is that this is a dip in form, yet the reality is that we're just a couple of months away from playing a whole year of dogshit football.

 

[Phil-spur99]

I think we are at the crossroads now and so is Poch. For all his flirting with Man U and Real, I would not be surprised if they had some question marks over his ability to get it done; they are both unforgiving places, particularly Real. There is also a risk in this dragging on for Poch if his stock falls further, it might end up that he has peaked and his career could become patchy like AVBs if he’s not careful. Reminds me a bit of Redknapp too who thought he was going to get the England job, didn’t and he ended up losing the biggest job of his career which then went into a tailspin.

Anyway, it’s less the result today that I’m concerned with because I always have Anfield down as a loss every year; it’s the team selection and the no signs of changing the obvious which now makes me in favour of a change.

If we don’t do it soon we could be too far behind Chelsea and Leicester (and Arsenal) to get in the top 4. I think the commercial risk off missing CL is the only thing that would make Levy act though. If we don’t get that the whole think could unravel even more spectacularly in the summer in terms of Kane, Son etc (I’m not too fussed about Dele personally).

 

[spursfan77]

Poch was Joe Lewis's pick? That's a new one on me. I hadn't realised that Joe was that much of an expert on football.

yeah there was itk on it at the time. Something to do with Lewis’s connections in Argentina knowing about him personally, his background etc

 

[Matrix]

Why couldn’t we keep the ball longer? Because it’s hard when you’re playing a side like Liverpool who press so well and aggressively

You know there as a time we used to do that more then anyone else. Even more than Liverpool.

 

[Metalhead]

there was itk at the time, iirc levy wanted de boer but Lewis had friends from Argentina championing Poch

That probably wasn't a bad shout in hindsight.

 

[Mr Pink]

Mourinho blatantly wouldn’t want the job. He can’t spend millions with us.

He wouldnt need to really.

Full backs aside, he's got a great squad to work with and he loves experienced players, which we have plenty of.

 

[Metalhead]

yeah there was itk on it at the time. Something to do with Lewis’s connections in Argentina knowing about him personally, his background etc

Interesting. Well, despite the growing antipathy towards Poch, it was a decent shout at the time.

 

[RichieS]

He wouldnt need to really.

Full backs aside, he's got a great squad to work with and he loves experienced players, which we have plenty of.

He also loves Dier, so we might actually end up being able to defend again.

 

[skaz04nik]

Why did we only start playing attacking football after we went 2-1 down? Because we had no other choice

I have nothing against a defensive play against Pool, but we let them create too many chances, far too many. And too many of those in the box

Just compare # shots for United

Manchester United 1 - 1 Liverpool (October 20 2019) | EPL | 2019/2020 | xG | Understat.com

Manchester United 1 - 1 Liverpool. Check out detailed player statistic, goals, assists, key passes, xG, shot map, xGplot.

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and us

Liverpool 2 - 1 Tottenham (October 27 2019) | EPL | 2019/2020 | xG | Understat.com

Liverpool 2 - 1 Tottenham. Check out detailed player statistic, goals, assists, key passes, xG, shot map, xGplot.

understat.com

 

[Mr Pink]

He also loves Dier, so we might actually end up being able to defend again.

4-3-3 under Mourinho. He'd probably stick big Mo at right back until we acquire better.

Lloris

Sissoko
Toby
Jan
Davies

Dier
Ndombele
Lo Celso

Lucas/Lamela
Kane
Son

 

[IamSpurtacus]

to give you a sense of how poor we were (don't be deceived by the push in the last ten minutes)

Our first and second shots on targets were separated by 86 minutes

[courtesy of football365]

 

[spursfan77]

I just don't think he intends to sack him any time soon to be honest mate. We will stick with him through the Xmas period IMO and maybe reassess halfway through the season but even then, I can't see us sacking Poch just before the January window either.

I don't know, for whatever reason I just don't get the vibe that this is a major major crisis within the club or just that Pochettino is on the brink of being sacked. The perception from many is that this is a dip in form, yet the reality is that we're just a couple of months away from playing a whole year of dogshit football.

Plus at the game Tuesday the whole crowd were singing Poch’s name. People still blindly love him. There’s people on Twitter blaming levy for us losing today. It’s crazy.

Despite the results, unless it turns ugly in the stadium I don’t think levy will change him. Defeats in the next two games but do it but I wouldn’t be certain.

 

[Mate]

As painful as it will be, I think we need to accept that these issues are going to remain consistent throughout the season, as Poch won't be leaving and very little business will be done in January.

I'm fully expecting the fan base to become much more turbulent when Top 4 is out of reach by Xmas.

 

[Lighty64]

Aside from the petulant Ndombele bit...

“I was talking before the game, with 29 players, it’s so important to rotate and keep all motivated to play.."

Absolute horseshit. Find your best lineup first (hint: it includes Ndombele), give them a run of games and let them find some consistency and form. What’s the point of rotation if you’re dropping points left and right anyway. We don’t have that luxury.

Do you think Klopp cares about catering to 29 players, or does he put out his best available 11 every game.

you do know you can only have 25 senior players in the squad, where are you getting 29 from

 

[Mr Pink]

you do know you can only have 25 senior players in the squad, where are you getting 29 from

That's Poch saying the 29 players but, you know that right?

 

[Lighty64]

That's Poch saying the 29 players but, you know that right?

to be honest I never heard the interview or read that twitter bit so apologise to @DFF

 

[slartibartfast]

His team selections are baffling in big games.

Picks Eriksen, who runs a lot and who is afraid of his own shadow. Picks Winks who just passes sideways and runs a lot. Picks Rose who has no composure but loves a good hard tackle.

Leaves out our best player from Tuesday night, a full 5 days ago, in Ndombele who he waits until 65 minutes have been played and we've been absolutely battered and had about 15% of the ball because we had nobody to carry the ball.

Plays narrow to allow Liverpool's full backs the freedom of Anfield.

Baffling. Absolutely baffling

I do find it staggering that in the modern game players are like robots and either cannot, or choose not to, make in game decisions themselves.
How can your full backs keep coming so narrow leaving acres of space for opposition to cross the ball time after time after time and nobody, NOBODY, turns round and says 'FFS man will you fkin stay out there and do your fkin job?'
Nope. Not one player. Might upset the poor little cherub. Oh for an old fashioned Captain on the pitch. Must be a very different mindset these days because if I was playing and that kept happening it would piss me right off.
Like when Lloris keeps throwing it out and getting us in trouble despite nearly conceding 6 times from it previously. He just keeps doing it until we do go a goal down and then... yep, keeps fkin doing it. If I was CB he'd get a fkin earful long before we conceded I wouldnt give a shit what coach numbnuts told him to do.

 

[Reece]

I do find it staggering that in the modern game players are like robots and either cannot, or choose not to, make in game decisions themselves.
How can your full backs keep coming so narrow leaving acres of space for opposition to cross the ball time after time after time and nobody, NOBODY, turns round and says 'FFS man will you fkin stay out there and do your fkin job?'
Nope. Not one player. Might upset the poor little cherub. Oh for an old fashioned Captain on the pitch. Must be a very different mindset these days because if I was playing and that kept happening it would piss me right off.

The old fashioned captains have still been about recently i’d say. Henderson. Kompany. Even Wes Morgan the year Leicester won the league. Probably why Pool will win the league this year. Best captain.

 

[Graysonti]

When Poch mentioned painful rebuild he was talking about himself !

 

[Mark_147]

yeah there was itk on it at the time. Something to do with Lewis’s connections in Argentina knowing about him personally, his background etc

Pretty sure pochettino was recommended to us by mourinho.