The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Mr Pink]

until 38 games have been played it's not over, with 27 games left it definitely ain't over

Just a bit of banter

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Question is, will it be 365 days or a year?

Probably much sooner. Maybe 1/12 of a year, maybe 1/26 of a year, maybe 1/3 of a year.
Jesus, my point wasn't about thinking that he'll leave in a years time. Some poster said that if he hasn't left by "event X", he is here to stay. My post was to counter that stance, stating that he'll leave the club at some point that means that next season, he is not managing Tottenham.
Let's move on. Is there any pudding?

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I'm hoping we haven't become a club who is snuggly warm in our nearly men status. It seems with Poch we've found the ultimate nearly man, and a manager a lot of fans are worried about losing because this is the best we can expect.

For me, this isn't the best we should expect. We shouldn't have to settle for this, because if we do, it shows we are happy to be where we are, but scared of rolling the dice and becoming a truly big club...who wins things.

Top 4, check. CL, check, a couple of semi-finals, check. This is what we were all dreaming of for years, and now we've got it, it seems a majority of us are comfortable with our new status and scared of making that next leap.

We can tread water for another 5 years, doing the same, rolling along like we always have, or we can make a statement and go balls out for an actual world class manager. I'm certain that it will take us someone like Mourinho, for the short or long term, to elevate us into that club that does hire the best managers and buy the best players, and I think Mourinho would command that level of improvement from both the players and the owners.

I'm sick of seeing us constantly capitulate, be it the disappointment of not getting top 4, to lasagne-gate, to losing semi-finals, to not winning the CL when it was there for the taking. Is this always going to be us?

Poch for the moment is perfect, he's nearly good enough, our team is nearly good enough, the owners are nearly good enough and 60% of us, judging by the poll, are happy with it. I'm just not anymore.

Entitled? Why not? Why shouldn't we expect to win something after all these years of foundations, building and developing, otherwise what are we here for? Just to make up the numbers and give the other big clubs something to constantly laugh at? Big clubs do feel entitled and that's why we always take the piss out of ManU and Liverpool, as they expect their team to perform and win stuff. Guess what? They do.

We are just West Ham with more money at the moment. A club you can guarantee will let you down in the end. I want better now.

A little while ago our squad had the highest value squad in the world, with the best defence, a golden boot winner, and our golden age. We've now added the best stadium and the best training complex. Why are we settling for a manager who is getting worse as we are getting better? I don't have faith anymore. It's time we pulled up a chair at the big table.

We should be aiming at winning the league. Not looking at a potential relegation season. Mourinho was a failure for finishing second. We're happy with scraping 4th. As a fanbase we need to start setting our expectations higher.

I want what you are smoking.
I'm kidding, this is good reading.

 

[stevenurse]

I'm hoping we haven't become a club who is snuggly warm in our nearly men status. It seems with Poch we've found the ultimate nearly man, and a manager a lot of fans are worried about losing because this is the best we can expect.

For me, this isn't the best we should expect. We shouldn't have to settle for this, because if we do, it shows we are happy to be where we are, but scared of rolling the dice and becoming a truly big club...who wins things.

Top 4, check. CL, check, a couple of semi-finals, check. This is what we were all dreaming of for years, and now we've got it, it seems a majority of us are comfortable with our new status and scared of making that next leap.

We can tread water for another 5 years, doing the same, rolling along like we always have, or we can make a statement and go balls out for an actual world class manager. I'm certain that it will take us someone like Mourinho, for the short or long term, to elevate us into that club that does hire the best managers and buy the best players, and I think Mourinho would command that level of improvement from both the players and the owners.

I'm sick of seeing us constantly capitulate, be it the disappointment of not getting top 4, to lasagne-gate, to losing semi-finals, to not winning the CL when it was there for the taking. Is this always going to be us?

Poch for the moment is perfect, he's nearly good enough, our team is nearly good enough, the owners are nearly good enough and 60% of us, judging by the poll, are happy with it. I'm just not anymore.

Entitled? Why not? Why shouldn't we expect to win something after all these years of foundations, building and developing, otherwise what are we here for? Just to make up the numbers and give the other big clubs something to constantly laugh at? Big clubs do feel entitled and that's why we always take the piss out of ManU and Liverpool, as they expect their team to perform and win stuff. Guess what? They do.

We are just West Ham with more money at the moment. A club you can guarantee will let you down in the end. I want better now.

A little while ago our squad had the highest value squad in the world, with the best defence, a golden boot winner, and our golden age. We've now added the best stadium and the best training complex. Why are we settling for a manager who is getting worse as we are getting better? I don't have faith anymore. It's time we pulled up a chair at the big table.

We should be aiming at winning the league. Not looking at a potential relegation season. Mourinho was a failure for finishing second. We're happy with scraping 4th. As a fanbase we need to start setting our expectations higher.

Has unfortunately been the problem for years. The same old argument of 'but we were shit in the 90s' gets banded about as if that justifies it.

It's why the spursy tag will be there as long as we keep accepting failure as 'oh well, that's what we do lol'.

If anything I'm amazed the match going fans are content. Highest prices in Europe to be served up that shit each week. As another poster said, we've played well maybe two or 3 times at the new ground. They not only have the emotional investment but also the financial to be reasons to be furious.

 

[Inq]

As Levy is a business man though I would have thought cashing in on a player like Eriksen or Toby a year or so ago would have been on the agenda. Maybe getting somewhere close to 100-120M for them both. We could have used that money to reinvigorate the team with 3-5 players on the up. That's where we could have made up some ground on these clubs and could have been competing with Liverpool for the title this season or the next.

I just can't tell whether it was Levy's lack of proactiveness or Poch's stubbornness for players who only directly improve the starting XI. I think we all knew deep down that Eriksen would want a move eventually. As much as none of us wanted to believe it. Seems foolish we didn't cash in on him when he was at his peak.

Now it seems like we are on a downward spiral out of control where the team doesn't trust in Poch's tactics. Almost need a new manager just to save ourselves. Think Poch has lost it a bit

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Poch quote , doesn't seem to have worked out so far.

“But the team played really well. Playing like this, we are going to improve and get better. It was one of the best performances in five years we’ve had here at the Emirates. After all the circumstances it was an important performance, more important than the point or the table.”

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm hoping we haven't become a club who is snuggly warm in our nearly men status. It seems with Poch we've found the ultimate nearly man, and a manager a lot of fans are worried about losing because this is the best we can expect.

For me, this isn't the best we should expect. We shouldn't have to settle for this, because if we do, it shows we are happy to be where we are, but scared of rolling the dice and becoming a truly big club...who wins things.

Top 4, check. CL, check, a couple of semi-finals, check. This is what we were all dreaming of for years, and now we've got it, it seems a majority of us are comfortable with our new status and scared of making that next leap.

We can tread water for another 5 years, doing the same, rolling along like we always have, or we can make a statement and go balls out for an actual world class manager. I'm certain that it will take us someone like Mourinho, for the short or long term, to elevate us into that club that does hire the best managers and buy the best players, and I think Mourinho would command that level of improvement from both the players and the owners.

I'm sick of seeing us constantly capitulate, be it the disappointment of not getting top 4, to lasagne-gate, to losing semi-finals, to not winning the CL when it was there for the taking. Is this always going to be us?

Poch for the moment is perfect, he's nearly good enough, our team is nearly good enough, the owners are nearly good enough and 60% of us, judging by the poll, are happy with it. I'm just not anymore.

Entitled? Why not? Why shouldn't we expect to win something after all these years of foundations, building and developing, otherwise what are we here for? Just to make up the numbers and give the other big clubs something to constantly laugh at? Big clubs do feel entitled and that's why we always take the piss out of ManU and Liverpool, as they expect their team to perform and win stuff. Guess what? They do.

We are just West Ham with more money at the moment. A club you can guarantee will let you down in the end. I want better now.

A little while ago our squad had the highest value squad in the world, with the best defence, a golden boot winner, and our golden age. We've now added the best stadium and the best training complex. Why are we settling for a manager who is getting worse as we are getting better? I don't have faith anymore. It's time we pulled up a chair at the big table.

We should be aiming at winning the league. Not looking at a potential relegation season. Mourinho was a failure for finishing second. We're happy with scraping 4th. As a fanbase we need to start setting our expectations higher.

That's a great post.

The losers are the ones calling the rest of us entitled.

Nobody has shown disloyalty to Poch, this run is 9 months, not just a couple of games.

Respectfully its broken and its time for change.

 

[spurfetto]

Cool news.
Are you also funding the replacement of half a team in the transfer market?

Nah that's all on the club

Anyway, will be interesting to see how many of those I mentioned will be here this time next season

 

[yankspurs]

Has he been sacked yet?

No. Just like he wont have been sacked when we're still talking about this shit a month from now. It's baffling that the club seem no closer to making a change now than we were before the season started. Levy's negligence here is staggering considering he's sacked managers for less.

Make the change already. Put McDermott and Mason in charge for Red Star and appoint Mourinho/Allegri for Sheffield.

 

[George94]

Has he been sacked yet?

Unless we look in serious danger of relegation in a few months time, I honestly don't think Levy is going to sack him.

Think he would have pulled the trigger by now if he didn't think Poch would be able to turn this around.

 

[Trotter]

View from the ground is that most people on social media and fan sites are absolute cucumbers. Travelling support very much still backing Poch. They've seen Levy at work before, with Jol, Redknapp etc, likely turn on the bald little **** first before Poch.

I am one of those travelling supporters.
Totally agree with you.
Do I think he will turn it around ? Probably not this season, cannot see us getting Top 4 now.
Do I think he should be replaced ? Yes, but only by a top name, and only if it means some players that want him out stay
Am I fully behind Poch at the games ? Without doubt, and desperately want him to turn things around.

Supporters (and being controversial, the ones that travel are the only ones I really regard as supporters) don’t just turn on a manager that has given us many memorable nights, being in the Amsterdam Arena that night will never be forgotten.
I despise some of the disrespectful posts on here, telling him to f**k off etc.
If he does go, it should be with dignity and full respect.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

I am one of those travelling supporters.
Totally agree with you.
Do I think he will turn it around ? Probably not this season, cannot see us getting Top 4 now.
Do I think he should be replaced ? Yes, but only by a top name, and only if it means some players that want him out stay
Am I fully behind Poch at the games ? Without doubt, and desperately want him to turn things around.

Supporters (and being controversial, the ones that travel are the only ones I really regard as supporters) don’t just turn on a manager that has given us many memorable nights, being in the Amsterdam Arena that night will never be forgotten.
I despise some of the disrespectful posts on here, telling him to f**k off etc.
If he does go, it should be with dignity and full respect.

You think spurs only have up to 5000 supporters?

 

[soup]

I want what you are smoking.
I'm kidding, this is good reading.

Knocked one up just before posting.

 

[Metalhead]

Probably much sooner. Maybe 1/12 of a year, maybe 1/26 of a year, maybe 1/3 of a year.
Jesus, my point wasn't about thinking that he'll leave in a years time. Some poster said that if he hasn't left by "event X", he is here to stay. My post was to counter that stance, stating that he'll leave the club at some point that means that next season, he is not managing Tottenham.
Let's move on. Is there any pudding?

It was just a joke - it gets a bit heavy on here sometimes so a bit of levity doesn't go amiss.

 

[Trotter]

You think spurs only have up to 5000 supporters?

Told you it was controversial.
I see those fans that travel home and away, as being the true supporters of the club, other as fans/followers of the club.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Told you it was controversial.
I see those fans that travel home and away, as being the true supporters of the club, other as fans/followers of the club.

Mate, have a day off.

 

[yankspurs]

Told you it was controversial.
I see those fans that travel home and away, as being the true supporters of the club, other as fans/followers of the club.

What? Some people dont have the means to follow the club to every single city theres a game in.

 

[Jaddas]

If we twist, can things really get any worse? Don't think so.......and that's from a Poch loyalist. I think Poch is lost and needs a break, thereby leaving with his reputation intact. Other big clubs are/might be looking for managers who should interest us.

However, I think Levy is going to give longer than what many of us would. He probably feels he owes Poch and basing a decision on that would be yet another mistake, and possibly set us back years, thus ruining all the recent good work.

The club just seems to be stumbling along like a punch drunk alcoholic which isn't fair. The players, board and management are all to blame but getting rid of the latter is (reluctantly) the easiest. Some on here pay the highest prices in the world to watch crap and that's not right.

 

[mrlilywhite]

I am one of those travelling supporters.
Totally agree with you.
Do I think he will turn it around ? Probably not this season, cannot see us getting Top 4 now.
Do I think he should be replaced ? Yes, but only by a top name, and only if it means some players that want him out stay
Am I fully behind Poch at the games ? Without doubt, and desperately want him to turn things around.

Supporters (and being controversial, the ones that travel are the only ones I really regard as supporters) don’t just turn on a manager that has given us many memorable nights, being in the Amsterdam Arena that night will never be forgotten.
I despise some of the disrespectful posts on here, telling him to f**k off etc.
If he does go, it should be with dignity and full respect.

I despise attitudes of self-entitlement - What a load of old tosh about away supporters being the only "real" supporters. I guess I might as well stop buying my shirt every season and give up my ticket to the next home game to a "real" supporter. Condescending much!

 

[Jamturk]

Putting myself in the chairman's shoes, do I want to be seen backing the players over the best and most successful manager I have ever employed?

Not a good look to any incoming managers.