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The Doc

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I'm sorry, how is Levy at fault for any of that? He can't make Eriksen leave before his contract runs out, or force a club to pay a reasonable fee for Toby, abdbheballowee Rose to talk with Watford but he didn't want to go there. None of that is Poch's fault either.

If ever we needed proof that the dear leader has an army of bots at his disposal, triggered to post a defence of his leadership whenever anything even mildly critical is scanned. Looks like one might need a patch installed.
 

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I'm sorry, how is Levy at fault for any of that? He can't make Eriksen leave before his contract runs out, or force a club to pay a reasonable fee for Toby, abdbheballowee Rose to talk with Watford but he didn't want to go there. None of that is Poch's fault either.
The club motto is ‘To Dare Is To Do’. Levy rarely dares. He calculates. That brings you a financially stable and prosperous club but it doesn’t bring you that next daring level. He’s not a risk taker and top level players need to see that they are at a top level club, so they have a chance of silverware. Levy drives with the brakes on. There are pros and cons to that.
 

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Despite the level of the opposition we definitely looked like a more cohesive unit last night, and I find it hard to believe that it's a coincidence that we saw that in a game where Rose, Alderweireld and Eriksen weren't playing.

I think we may need to tweak the system a bit against Liverpool as it's obviously a completely different type of opponent, but at the moment I'd stick to getting our committed players on the pitch and go from there.


We also didn't suffer any early setbacks like Hugo's gaff or Watford's early strike. Those type of incidents can instantly sap any energy or enthusiasm for the task at hand. We started decisively, reaped the rewards and then built on it. Red Star were pretty awful but we put some lovely moves together with that little bit of confidence restored. The match v Liverpool is all about not getting despondent again regardless of the result, so the players need to turn up and not throw in the towel.
 

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The club motto is ‘To Dare Is To Do’. Levy rarely dares. He calculates. That brings you a financially stable and prosperous club but it doesn’t bring you that next daring level. He’s not a risk taker and top level players need to see that they are at a top level club, so they have a chance of silverware. Levy drives with the brakes on. There are pros and cons to that.
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Primativ

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I'm pretty sure I can say that. Watch, ill do it again.

I watched the game, it didn't look like a one off to me.


You have absolutely nothing to base that on because based on our form over an extended period of time, last night was an anamoly until proven otherwise, but sure go ahead.
 

Mr Pink

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My worry is last night was a one off rather than the start of a recovery.


Fact is Rose and Eriksen on recent form should be nowhere near the squad any longer. Poch kept picking them why exactly?! Why has it taken him so long to pick a balanced side in a formation that suits?

Also last night the opposition were absolute shit and we still looked shaky defensively.

That said of course there were positives to hold onto also! If Poch can get us winning again great but I still have huge reservations about him tactically and I still think the writing is on the wall.

Writing isn't on the wall yet, if he builds on this.

I've never been so curious to see what are line up will be this Sunday as I think it's potentially hugely significant in terms of him turning this around.

The fact he gave them today off could be telling that he's going to pick the same side, or very close to it.

Here's hoping.

We'd all love him to turn this around and last night was a start but he has to build on it and keep away the players who don't want to be here.
 

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https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/10/...shares-his-theory-over-why-tottenham-hotspur/
Poch blames a late return to pre-season because of ECL Final for our poor start to the season. Can someone remind him who we played in the final!


That is really worrying and quite pathetic. Last season it was the stadium move, world cup blah blah

The guy loves an excuse doesn't he. We've been playing so poorly for such a long time. I'm convinced we have such a good squad of players and a better manager could do much more with this squad than he has been doing. You can see the quality we possess in the side, yet we've looked a shadow of ourselves for nigh on a year now.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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All i’ve read in here the last few days is “why is he still here” “should have gone after the Brighton match” “he’s lost the dressing room” “he’s nothing more than a Argentinian Harry Redknapp”. One win and you all start changing your tune saying your willing to give him time.

Bunch of fucking turncoats ?
 

Lighty64

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has Poch came out and said that’s why he played him there? I missed that

why didn't you see KWP get injured the week before we played Arsenal, or that Aurier had an operation on his wrist, or Foyth was injured in preseason?

if you didn't you obviously don't pay enough attention
 

Primativ

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Writing isn't on the wall yet, if he builds on this.

I've never been so curious to see what are line up will be this Sunday as I think it's potentially hugely significant in terms of him turning this around.

The fact he gave them today off could be telling that he's going to pick the same side, or very close to it.

Here's hoping.

We'd all love him to turn this around and last night was a start but he has to build on it and keep away the players who don't want to be here.

Last night could just as easily be like when we thrashed Huddersfield or whoever it was over Xmas last year. A one off. Whilst I'd love him to turn it around as it's easier than changing managers, I'd still have an inescapable concern about him bottling trophies constantly. That is a issue that I don't see going away anytime soon (for me personally).
 

Ronwol196061

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For me its all about Poch and how he develops and manages the games. I haven't been impressed with his tactics. The test will come with how he approaches to Liverpool game.
We need a balance between defence and attack. I know that Ndombele will be great. His passes are quick and decisive and forward for the most part. He can buy us space. Harry will benefit,Son too. But its important Poch knows how to keep the defence tight at the same time. Maybe use Dier as a DM/a third CB etc and maybe Winks or LO Celso ahead of him
NDombele to be can hit passes before the defences get set. Eriksen on the other hand, takes a lot of time with his 1000 short passes etc,
We need fast movement going forward and defence not left wide open
 

Mr Pink

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All i’ve read in here the last few days is “why is he still here” “should have gone after the Brighton match” “he’s lost the dressing room” “he’s nothing more than a Argentinian Harry Redknapp”. One win and you all start changing your tune saying your willing to give him time.

Bunch of fucking turncoats ?

What the hell are you talking about?

Whoever made the Redknapp comparison is way off the mark, but lots of people have aired their concerns because we've been poor for the best part of the year.

Constantly changing things, playing players who don't wan't to be here, moaning, talking about leaving etc.

It's been a mess and you're acting like people can't accept a few bad results.

Now he's made changes, what a lot of us wanted to see and now want to see if he'll build on that.

And you're weighing in having a go like you've been proven right lol.

If anything, the people saying he needed to stop playing some of them look to be proven right.

Hate posts like yours digging out other fans just because they're switched on enough to recognise some of the problems and it's not just about blind loyalty to a manager, who's talked about leaving as well.
 

pablo73

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All i’ve read in here the last few days is “why is he still here” “should have gone after the Brighton match” “he’s lost the dressing room” “he’s nothing more than a Argentinian Harry Redknapp”. One win and you all start changing your tune saying your willing to give him time.

Bunch of fucking turncoats ?

That is a bit harsh, the majority of posts I've read in here have been along the lines of 'our form in 2019 is terrible so something has to change, if Poch keeps making the same old mistakes nothing is going to change so he will have to go.' Last night he did change things, so a lot of posters are just reflecting that change.

That's what the majority want I think in an ideal world, for Poch to turn it around. It was always a question of whether he could or not and the evidence was mounting to suggest that he couldn't. Last night was a glimmer of hope that he can turn it around, let's hope he does.
 

Lighty64

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First 30 mins today is the most like spurs of old we’ve looked in over a year :) surprise surprise back to 4-2-3-1 and not starting any players who want to leave(erisken, Toby, rose) apart from aurier who was indifferent anyway.

this is where people obviously don't understand football, and were raving about how great we were v Palace.

1, last night we didn't concede an early goal

2, Red Star at no time had a 10 man defence so left spaces and gaps between the lines

3, why leave a dig in about Aurier? on Saturday he wasn't at fault for our goal, and played well. he made a challenge that meant we stayed at 0-1 v Watford, and he also put in some crosses that Walker never ever made, but thanks to Kane and Moura not challenging the crosses meant they where wasted. Last night he again played well and put some crunching tackles in
 
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