The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[DFF]

Think it might be one of those beardy craft beer only articles.

I think he's just referring to the same one doing the rounds today. It's not Ornstein saying it either.

Seeing as you can't view the article unless you're an avocado toast connoisseur like myself, here's the pertinent bit:


As things stand, a sense from within the game is that Tottenham’s Mauricio Pochettino is a prime target, though if the Argentine became available, there would many interested parties.“Pochettino would be the preferred solution,” The Athletic is told.

“If he and Spurs end up splitting, which looks likely, Bayern will do anything to get him. On the other hand, that’s what everyone would do, even Real Madrid and probably Manchester United, who have been aiming at him for a year and a half now. It’s a very difficult option, but that would be Bayern’s priority.”

 

[Shadydan]

Love your posts but LOL. if you are calling him out, you probably need to call out another 146 people. I guess that would create the longest thread of all time.

I'm only having a little fun with him

 

[Primativ]

drips and drabs at that are pretty cutting if you read between the lines

“There’s a lot of tactical work. Every day I’m learning. Training’s totally different. For me, that’s perfect. I’m getting help off one of the best coaches in the world.”

“You see sometimes last season or before I was maybe putting the ball in the box for the sake of it. Look at the goal [Álvaro] Morata scored from [Ángel] Correa’s pass [against Athletic]. At Tottenham I would have just crossed that, but there’s three v one so I came back out, played it to Koke, Koke to Ángel, Ángel to Morata, goal. It’s practice.”

“We do that with England too, with Gareth,” Trippier adds swiftly. “If it’s not on, turn out, play to Hendo [Jordan Henderson]. You see the one at the World Cup with Jesse Lingard. It’s not just throwing the ball in the box, hoping they get on the end of it.”

A feeling lingers that something wasn’t right at Spurs, the occasional hint of something really wrong. After last year perhaps Spurs aren’t such a surprise. After the World Cup perhaps his problems weren’t either, an inevitable low following that high? “Personally I don’t think it was anything to do with the World Cup,” he replies. “Sometimes you need a break but that’s not an excuse either.

not great to read but still trippier was awful last season and made horrible mistakes. Mind you it’s symptomatic if the decline of the squads form under Poch

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I think he's just referring to the same one doing the rounds today. It's not Ornstein saying it either.

Seeing as you can't view the article unless you're an avocado toast connoisseur like myself, here's the pertinent bit:


As things stand, a sense from within the game is that Tottenham’s Mauricio Pochettino is a prime target, though if the Argentine became available, there would many interested parties.“Pochettino would be the preferred solution,” The Athletic is told.

“If he and Spurs end up splitting, which looks likely, Bayern will do anything to get him. On the other hand, that’s what everyone would do, even Real Madrid and probably Manchester United, who have been aiming at him for a year and a half now. It’s a very difficult option, but that would be Bayern’s priority.”

So big clubs might still want him but only when Spurs sack him ...

[Enter Levy laughing pic/gif here]

 

[spursfan77]

I think he's just referring to the same one doing the rounds today. It's not Ornstein saying it either.

Seeing as you can't view the article unless you're an avocado toast connoisseur like myself, here's the pertinent bit:


As things stand, a sense from within the game is that Tottenham’s Mauricio Pochettino is a prime target, though if the Argentine became available, there would many interested parties.“Pochettino would be the preferred solution,” The Athletic is told.

“If he and Spurs end up splitting, which looks likely, Bayern will do anything to get him. On the other hand, that’s what everyone would do, even Real Madrid and probably Manchester United, who have been aiming at him for a year and a half now. It’s a very difficult option, but that would be Bayern’s priority.”

you too have missed off the paragraph that says they’re keeping their caretaker manager until the end of the season.

 

[Lighty64]

Personally, I don't disagree with any of your arguments/excuses, but they are wearing a little thin now. Football is football. Games are played every three days at the top level and you have to adapt. Individuals make mistakes. Conditions are against you.

But if you want to compete at the highest level and win trophies, they can't be reasons/excuses for defeats, certainly not excuses for our points total/away record.

Ultimately, football managers get paid to work well under those conditions and the best managers adapt best. If you can't, you don't last.

the experience with the World Cup was the 1st time Poch has had to experience it, and knowing how it affected us I doubt he would ever turn down plan B's to make sure he had cover, or turn his nose up at a loan without a definite permanent at the end.

the end of seasons away form was mainly down to injuries, and burnout, and that has to go back to the WC

this season he is struggling with both, there are reasons behind it whether you use excuses or not, and a very good chance it is from having an unsettled squad

 

[Oscar22]

If things carry on as they are I reckon he will have to go too, mind you I’m only tier 9.

 

[muppetman]

This thread is like Brexit, just drags on and on with no sign of closure, good job there is the international break to enjoy. . .

 

[Lighty64]

I might've called you Chemical Lighty, and perhaps Goebbels64 once or twice but that was just light hearted jest mate.

I thought calling you a twat was being quite nice compared to what I really wanted to call you at the time

 

[soflapaul]

drips and drabs at that are pretty cutting if you read between the lines

“There’s a lot of tactical work. Every day I’m learning. Training’s totally different. For me, that’s perfect. I’m getting help off one of the best coaches in the world.”

“You see sometimes last season or before I was maybe putting the ball in the box for the sake of it. Look at the goal [Álvaro] Morata scored from [Ángel] Correa’s pass [against Athletic]. At Tottenham I would have just crossed that, but there’s three v one so I came back out, played it to Koke, Koke to Ángel, Ángel to Morata, goal. It’s practice.”

“We do that with England too, with Gareth,” Trippier adds swiftly. “If it’s not on, turn out, play to Hendo [Jordan Henderson]. You see the one at the World Cup with Jesse Lingard. It’s not just throwing the ball in the box, hoping they get on the end of it.”

A feeling lingers that something wasn’t right at Spurs, the occasional hint of something really wrong. After last year perhaps Spurs aren’t such a surprise. After the World Cup perhaps his problems weren’t either, an inevitable low following that high? “Personally I don’t think it was anything to do with the World Cup,” he replies. “Sometimes you need a break but that’s not an excuse either.

I'm sorry but what that says more about Kieran than Spurs. What player has ever played the game at any level who "would have just crossed that"? you pick up your head, look for players in open space and hit it to them or where they are going. if you don't see options, you cycle the ball back. Yes, if you are under pressure with no conceivable outlet, you might just cross it but suggesting that Spurs told him to cross the ball whenever? no wonder his end product suffered. perhaps there is more purpose to where people are in the box at his current employers, but crossing it for crossing's sake?

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Would suggest you delete this post. Trix has not confirmed who will leave if Poch stays, Guessing ITK is one thing but pretending our guesses is fact is out of line and will likely make ITK's stop posting.

Ah right haven’t seen that post from @Trix will modify it!

Although from the original post it did look like it could only be aimed at one of ours

 

[mil1lion]

Neil Warnock anyone?

 

[soflapaul]

I'm only having a little fun with him

totally understood. i was actually being a remora (or leech) on your post indirectly calling attention to how many people repeat themselves ad nauseum. all in good fun. it would be very interesting to see how many people have actually changed their positions on Poch over the last one month in here. suspect it is more than we would expect, but also suspect that the majority of people are holding to their positions

 

[Lighty64]

If you can't rebuttal what is a very fair and straightforward post it says a lot more about your argument, its weak. You have zero basis for blaming the chairman for this current predicament and I am yet to hear a compelling argument from those who think the same - it's the equivalent of sticking two fingers in your ears and shouting at the top of your voice, just face up to reality and admit it.

Levy isn't blameless but he doesn't control what goes on in the pitch and you have to say that this summer he did what wasn't expected of him and backed the manager.

he never fully backed him though, getting rid of Toby, Eriksen, Aurier, Wanyama and Rose were important. not getting a RB and a DMF have hurt us bigtime

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Neil Warnock anyone?

True story,

When he played us at home last year he was convinced we wouldn’t score he told Cardiff players not to press as we wouldn’t have it in us to find a killer ball ??

 

[mil1lion]

True story,

When he played us at home last year he was convinced we wouldn’t score he told Cardiff players not to press as we wouldn’t have it in us to find a killer ball ??

Would be true now though

 

[DFF]

you too have missed off the paragraph that says they’re keeping their caretaker manager until the end of the season.

It says they are "expected" to, because "it keeps them open to options which do not currently exist."

But that's negated by what i quoted: "'If he and Spurs end up splitting, which looks likely, Bayern will do anything to get him.'"

Herr Flick is in charge until the end of the season, unless their #1 guy Poch becomes available. Then they're all over him like i am on a seasonal craft beer tasting menu.


✌??

 

[Shadydan]

he never fully backed him though, getting rid of Toby, Eriksen, Aurier, Wanyama and Rose were important. not getting a RB and a DMF have hurt us bigtime

This has been covered 1000 times, I'm not going over this again.

 

[he is you know!]

Neil Warnock anyone?

He says they need a new voice, currently 14th in the league........just sayin

 

[skaz04nik]

I'm sorry but what that says more about Kieran than Spurs.

While I agree with you on this particular one I have to admit our transition to attack under Poch is often very poor

I have noticed many times (Bayern, Sheffiedl, Pool, Leicester, Citeh - many many games except for probably vs Redstar) when Toby, Jan or Winks splash their hands as if they are clueless to whom to address the ball to

And it often ends up with longball or lost possession

I am trying to watch other top clubs and they rarely have that situation. The players can lose the ball or make a poor pass but they know what to do