The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[rabbikeane]

He hasn't done it out of the goodness of his heart, he stands to make an insane profit when ENIC sell up.

That's how the world goes. I don't expect him to be a saint, just run us well. If they sell high it will be because of the work they've laid down and us being in a good position.

 

[Misfit]

Well i lived through all of that so you're wrong

They were fun times in their own way. I was much younger and a ST holder though. That helps. It's the purgatory of no longer being God awful but never seemingly wanting to take that next step as a club that ground me down a few years back when I stopped obsessing so much. The "game changer" stadium hasn't changed the game.

The PLC grows more and more important over the FC.

 

[spursfan77]

Anyone think he will have taken Conte's words on board over how he's run the club towards failure over the last 20 years?!?!?

 

[tony0379]

Anyone think he will have taken Conte's words on board over how he's run the club towards failure over the last 20 years?!?!?

Not really

 

[Stavrogin]

Not sure if this has already been posted. (Alyson Rudd from The Times)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...re-is-eating-managers-for-breakfast-7p8fdh2sf

How Tottenham Hotspur’s misaligned culture is ‘eating managers for breakfast’​

Alyson RuddMarch 20 2023, 8.00am

The Tottenham Hotspur nerve centre is housed in an office that can be reached from the club’s impressive stadium via a walkway. There are no views of the pitch, no sense at all that the business is a football business. It is an obvious metaphor for the puzzle that is Tottenham, a club that regard themselves as part of the elite and yet cannot find a way to win significant silverware.

I know people will get upset when I say this, but what a daft article (or daft experts)- though the author seems to know that with the witty asides.

We should have won some trophies before building a stadium?
Chelsea succeeded because they bought players for the team not the managers?

And this: “It’s not enough to win games,” Chadwick says. “You’ve got to win them in a stylish way with well-known players while making money in markets around the world, while delivering a financial return to shareholders. It is hard to reconcile these targets. It’s like football Whac-A-Mole.'

What an insane thing to say. No wonder fans are being driven mad but a media industry that serves up this dreck.

There's a neoliberal inhuman element to it - which makes me think - surely we'll see AIs churning out such articles by the thousands for every website under the sun.

 

[arnoldlayne]

I know people will get upset when I say this, but what a daft article (or daft experts)- though the author seems to know that with the witty asides.

We should have won some trophies before building a stadium?
Chelsea succeeded because they bought players for the team not the managers?

And this: “It’s not enough to win games,” Chadwick says. “You’ve got to win them in a stylish way with well-known players while making money in markets around the world, while delivering a financial return to shareholders. It is hard to reconcile these targets. It’s like football Whac-A-Mole.'

What an insane thing to say. No wonder fans are being driven mad but a media industry that serves up this dreck.

There's a neoliberal inhuman element to it - which makes me think - surely we'll see AIs churning out such articles by the thousands for every website under the sun.

She's a Liverpool supporter I believe and frequently has been very derogatory about us on the Times Football podcast over the years (even with Poch). Not a fan of her but thought interesting viewpoint to post.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Anyone think he will have taken Conte's words on board over how he's run the club towards failure over the last 20 years?!?!?

Nah he will blame someone else and sack them instead. Wait a minute …..

 

[spursfan77]

I know people will get upset when I say this, but what a daft article (or daft experts)- though the author seems to know that with the witty asides.

We should have won some trophies before building a stadium?
Chelsea succeeded because they bought players for the team not the managers?

And this: “It’s not enough to win games,” Chadwick says. “You’ve got to win them in a stylish way with well-known players while making money in markets around the world, while delivering a financial return to shareholders. It is hard to reconcile these targets. It’s like football Whac-A-Mole.'

What an insane thing to say. No wonder fans are being driven mad but a media industry that serves up this dreck.

There's a neoliberal inhuman element to it - which makes me think - surely we'll see AIs churning out such articles by the thousands for every website under the sun.

I thought the article was fucking stupid. We built the stadium to get ahead of FFP. The bloke says we built it too soon, if anything we built it too late. Utter nonsense.

 

[shelfsidespur]

That's great if you can feel satisfied with filling up the trophy cabinet with print-outs of the league table at the end each season, but football is about winning competitions, or at the very least trying to. Lately, we've treated cup competitions and European games with utter contempt.

"but football is about winning competitions"

Not in my view , not at all.
Football for me was/is putting sandwiches in my rucksack, walking to the bus stop and perhaps meeting my first fellow fan. Getting on the bus on which the are a couple more fans- "Come on you whites" Meet a few mates and start strolling the High Road , singing away. Meeting others you know or perhaps met briefly at some hostile ground in the darkest North. The buzz when you walked up the steps to the stand. Taking my much younger brother and him being lifted over and put on the ball boys bench.
Meeting my mates and going to every match in a Cup run. Cold , wet nights when you are happy and bright sunny days when thoroughly pissed off. Buying season tickets for me and my sons., Ricky Villa!
Style, the bursts of brilliance, the progress of youngsters I know and can follow together with a happy, buzzing stadium. Travelling home with a inner glow.

 

[Trent Crimm]

"but football is about winning competitions"

Not in my view , not at all.
Football for me was/is putting sandwiches in my rucksack, walking to the bus stop and perhaps meeting my first fellow fan. Getting on the bus on which the are a couple more fans- "Come on you whites" Meet a few mates and start strolling the High Road , singing away. Meeting others you know or perhaps met briefly at some hostile ground in the darkest North. The buzz when you walked up the steps to the stand. Taking my much younger brother and him being lifted over and put on the ball boys bench.
Meeting my mates and going to every match in a Cup run. Cold , wet nights when you are happy and bright sunny days when thoroughly pissed off. Buying season tickets for me and my sons., Ricky Villa!
Style, the bursts of brilliance, the progress of youngsters I know and can follow together with a happy, buzzing stadium. Travelling home with a inner glow.

Sadly, those days are long gone.

 

[YIDfromtheLANE]

"but football is about winning competitions"

Not in my view , not at all.
Football for me was/is putting sandwiches in my rucksack, walking to the bus stop and perhaps meeting my first fellow fan. Getting on the bus on which the are a couple more fans- "Come on you whites" Meet a few mates and start strolling the High Road , singing away. Meeting others you know or perhaps met briefly at some hostile ground in the darkest North. The buzz when you walked up the steps to the stand. Taking my much younger brother and him being lifted over and put on the ball boys bench.
Meeting my mates and going to every match in a Cup run. Cold , wet nights when you are happy and bright sunny days when thoroughly pissed off. Buying season tickets for me and my sons., Ricky Villa!
Style, the bursts of brilliance, the progress of youngsters I know and can follow together with a happy, buzzing stadium. Travelling home with a inner glow.

I have given this a love rating. It is what football used to be about, but somewhere we all got lost and the road that everyone seemed to follow was very binary. Of course we want to experience trophies, no doubts. But I have to say I love the journey, those moments. If you break it down there are 3 or 4 comps to compete in. Only a handful resourced to ever win. We are in that very odd place of being not quite good enough, but also some way above the rest. A bit of no man’s land. All I ask for is the push on effect when an opportunity arrives to grab it, and along the way we’ll enjoy glorious and memorable moments. We’ll never dominate but get us to a place where it’s down to strength of character on the day ie a semi or cup final, and give us that memory. A bit of a ramble at half hour past midnight. All in all, look beyond the trophies despite them feeling like the measure. Get us back to moment making and I’ll be a far happier fan.

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

"but football is about winning competitions"

Not in my view , not at all.
Football for me was/is putting sandwiches in my rucksack, walking to the bus stop and perhaps meeting my first fellow fan. Getting on the bus on which the are a couple more fans- "Come on you whites" Meet a few mates and start strolling the High Road , singing away. Meeting others you know or perhaps met briefly at some hostile ground in the darkest North. The buzz when you walked up the steps to the stand. Taking my much younger brother and him being lifted over and put on the ball boys bench.
Meeting my mates and going to every match in a Cup run. Cold , wet nights when you are happy and bright sunny days when thoroughly pissed off. Buying season tickets for me and my sons., Ricky Villa!
Style, the bursts of brilliance, the progress of youngsters I know and can follow together with a happy, buzzing stadium. Travelling home with a inner glow.

I also like all that. Here's the thing: you can have all that AND be competitive beyond limiting yourself to a top 4 finish. That's what I was talking about.

 

[NEVILLEB]

"but football is about winning competitions"

Not in my view , not at all.
Football for me was/is putting sandwiches in my rucksack, walking to the bus stop and perhaps meeting my first fellow fan. Getting on the bus on which the are a couple more fans- "Come on you whites" Meet a few mates and start strolling the High Road , singing away. Meeting others you know or perhaps met briefly at some hostile ground in the darkest North. The buzz when you walked up the steps to the stand. Taking my much younger brother and him being lifted over and put on the ball boys bench.
Meeting my mates and going to every match in a Cup run. Cold , wet nights when you are happy and bright sunny days when thoroughly pissed off. Buying season tickets for me and my sons., Ricky Villa!
Style, the bursts of brilliance, the progress of youngsters I know and can follow together with a happy, buzzing stadium. Travelling home with an inner glow.

When’s the last time you travelled home with an inner glow?

 

[cliff jones]

I can't be the first to comment on the decision to give profile to our DoF only yesterday, given this FIFA worldwide ban could have come at any time? Poor judgement, should have just left him in the shadows even if this did mean he might have to face up to the media properly, and accountably, himself?

How many more balls up's will it take for the power behind the throne to put him out of his misery?

 

[13VanDerBale13]

I think the sad reality is that this man will be here for a very long time, outlasting many along the way.

There will always be fans willing to pay for tickets / merchandise & ultimately we’ll probably never get what he’s asking for

 

[Oscar22]

It’s actually truly bizarre that Levy still holds his position, it can only be for non-football related reasons. We haven’t achieved anything else (no I’m not having playing in the champions league.).

In terms of infrastructure, the stadium, being stable financially … brilliant.

As a FOOTBALL club though, absolutely awful.

No manager (again), our director of football is banned, we don’t win anything, the constant awful managerial searches, making statements about DNA which are then immediately ignored… just all of it, any other job, any other industry, arguably any other club… in footballing terms just a consistent and catastrophic failure.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Paratici is the icing on the cake.

What terrible judgement!

Seems the Levy doesn't do any research of who's he's buying whether that's players, Managers or other staff.

 

[Joe Bjorn Hotspur]

You just cannot make all of this up, it just gets worse and especially with that statement from the DoF yesterday. When reading it I just felt what he was saying will be null and void: felt like Levy was passing on the buck yet again.

They’re dropping like flies, Daniel Levy must now not only release a statement but a video to all of our fanbase to explain to us what the vision is, from him, not written on his behalf. It’s also season ticket renewal time, we need clarity of what is going on especially with a project manager and if there is going to be a new DoF or not: this might be pivotal for the next manager. I know this is highly unlikely but we are in a crisis: the more he stays silent the more toxic that stadium will become.

 

[Marty]

Never has the phrase banter club been more accurate.

 

[Marty]

You guys have to riot if prices are jacked up. Stop being so fucking blase about it.

I'm not a ST holder, don't buy merch and live abroad so only go to a game a year at most so what I do means jack all. It's you who go regularly who need to do this.