Marty
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Yeah blaming Levy for everything down to Son playing LWB in a semi final or for Sissoko's handball is just too far.
And you can say the above and still be committedly Levy Out.
The ousting of Daniel (COYS)
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And you can say the above and still be committedly Levy Out.
Albertbarich
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That works both ways. I've seen plenty of the more well known spurs podcasters and social media folks mock, attack and disown anyone connected to that Levy out movement
People are pissed off some take it out on the club whilst others like to have a go at other fans (on both sides ).
Right now there is very little to like about the club and the people within it. Highest prices for everything, highest paid chairman, a totally unbalanced priority of football versus commercial and let's be honest barring Harry kane a shit football team. Attacking Daniel Levy or even certain players isn't the club itself who everyone loves in our own way. Legally the ENIC may own it but we will all be here long after them and anyone at the club.
The situation will only improve if the club sorts itself out.
Marty
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I saw a lot of that arrogance up until about the World Cup break and Paratici's initial ban after January. In the last four months I've seen and heard very little from any reputable source, and it's felt to me like the tide has turned in a big way.
Of course people are pissed off, and there are loads of good reasons for it, but not every single bad decision the club or manager or playing squad has made has been made by Levy. It seems like merely pointing this out leads to being crucified these days.
sundanceyid10
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An awful season that’s been coming for a while and the culmination of multiple seasons of ineptitude. Wasting many years of a generational player like Kane. The buck for the mess starts at the top, the constant denominator… Levy.
His time is done, however it isn’t because there is no way to get him out.
His time is done, however it isn’t because there is no way to get him out.
glacierSpurs
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I mentioned in the Leicester thread that how after their previous owner died unfortunately and as a result seemed to lose a very well-respected leader, they then started sliding down the league to the point of being relegated. today They will likely have no choice but to have a large fire sale and regroup the team - very often happening to relegated clubs. Such rebuilds sometimes yield positive outcomes, and there is every possibility clubs can come back up the next season with a new blood of players.
My point is Levy is becoming the rotten core of the club where the entire infrastructure is becoming so behind in capability. I don't feel many are actually respecting him, hence the mentality of the club has always been so lacking in winning, like how Leicester has become with a less-respected owner compared to before. We may not be relegated this season, and many are fearing we could be in the next season, understandably. But in truth, we could see it a way that we have been relegated from the European participation this season, which is quite a big deal considering our value and stadium size, and I hope Levy sees that as a warning before the actual relegation happens.
And like the example of how relegated teams could actually come back up again with a significant rebuild, we really have to do the same, so we can come back knocking on the doors of CL and hopefully winning some trophies in the coming seasons. Focus on that route - strip down the core of players who have been with us for too long and keep the young and upcoming ones.
The only thing hindering that is Daniel Levy.
I don't see him leaving although I bloody hope he will - that makes the process or rebuild more likely and logical. But if not, he has to absolutely win and command respect back from literally EVERYONE below him, hand them the dignity and trust, mainly for the future DoF and Manager, to rebuild the team with NO interfering.
Without either of these happening, the future of the club will be scary to think. This is really the final roll of the dice and he cannot make a mistake now.
My point is Levy is becoming the rotten core of the club where the entire infrastructure is becoming so behind in capability. I don't feel many are actually respecting him, hence the mentality of the club has always been so lacking in winning, like how Leicester has become with a less-respected owner compared to before. We may not be relegated this season, and many are fearing we could be in the next season, understandably. But in truth, we could see it a way that we have been relegated from the European participation this season, which is quite a big deal considering our value and stadium size, and I hope Levy sees that as a warning before the actual relegation happens.
And like the example of how relegated teams could actually come back up again with a significant rebuild, we really have to do the same, so we can come back knocking on the doors of CL and hopefully winning some trophies in the coming seasons. Focus on that route - strip down the core of players who have been with us for too long and keep the young and upcoming ones.
The only thing hindering that is Daniel Levy.
I don't see him leaving although I bloody hope he will - that makes the process or rebuild more likely and logical. But if not, he has to absolutely win and command respect back from literally EVERYONE below him, hand them the dignity and trust, mainly for the future DoF and Manager, to rebuild the team with NO interfering.
Without either of these happening, the future of the club will be scary to think. This is really the final roll of the dice and he cannot make a mistake now.
Colonel_Klinck
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We could easily find ourselves in the same position Newcastle were in for years, stuck with an owner the fans are desperate to get out but who won't go. I so want him gone, he clearly thinks he's a football man but he hasn't got a fucking clue football wise. The one good manager we had he didn't choose, he failed to back him in 2 windows, then sacked him on his first bad run.
I so want him gone but I don't think he has any intention of leaving, he loves the position he's in and doesn't give a fuck what the fans think or that the club is a laughing stock. I've not felt this shit about Spurs since I started supporting them in 1980. Things probably have been worse in the past but the contrast to where we should be with the stadium and training ground to where we actually are is just thoroughly depressing. It really does feel like we are in steep decline and managers just don't want to come to a managers graveyard and who can blame them.
I so want him gone but I don't think he has any intention of leaving, he loves the position he's in and doesn't give a fuck what the fans think or that the club is a laughing stock. I've not felt this shit about Spurs since I started supporting them in 1980. Things probably have been worse in the past but the contrast to where we should be with the stadium and training ground to where we actually are is just thoroughly depressing. It really does feel like we are in steep decline and managers just don't want to come to a managers graveyard and who can blame them.
Albertbarich
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I'm hoping this week, well dreaming that he produces a manager and DOF he has lined up all along and can proudly tell us all to calm down as he knew what he was doing all along.
I can dream right?
I can dream right?
Finchyid
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No levy bought them so it’s his fault….that’s what people will say. We didn’t concede in 10 hours of football with Sanchez playing, but he’s terrible people say! From the backend of last season we went backwards, imo that’s down to one person and isn’t levy
Trent Crimm
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Can’t wait to see levy in the stands drinking pints and swearing like a trooper with the fans a la Ashley.
Showing off his tattoos “profit” on one arm and “loss” on the other. On his back a full VdV face tattoo and a spreadsheet on his chest.
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Stamford
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If you can't see the bigger picture I don't know what to tell you. This isn't about one season, it's the culmination of multiple decisions over many years. Pointing the blame at conte is nonsense
But why did we have to play Son as LWB? Squad was bare beyond the first 11
why was Sissoko even playing in a CL final? Our whole run to the final was based on moments and unprobable events
we were not and never have been a club set up for sustained success where if we lose a final or semi it’s not a big deal as we know there will another one around the corner and where as one player starts to peak and decline we have a plan in place and his replacement identified and scouted
that’s what people are blaming Levy for
i took this to this thread as it pertains to Joe Lewis and why DL has retained so much power in the business. with regards to your quote, it probably is the case for investors but not for Joe Lewis.
Then skipper Michael Dawson said: "I had never met him before, so it was nice to go over there and a great experience. What a really nice guy. And that yacht is unreal! But he’s just a normal guy. You could chat to him about anything. He tunes into all the games, he loves it. We just sat there chatting. He made us feel so welcome over there. It was relaxed. A lot of team-bonding together. It helps to be able to put a face to the person investing so much in this club he wants to be successful. He’s always watching. He knows what goes on. He would remember every game, every little thing."
Yes, from an investment perspective, all investments are equal but some are more equal than others because of the emotional investment (hence the bolded part). What is baffling is the "why" he hasn't taken more direct control of the situation. In trying to understand Joe's motivation, i ran across the following article.
What Spurs owner Joe Lewis has said and others like Tiger Woods have said on him
The billionaire who owns a majority stake of Tottenham Hotspur is a figure who shies away from publicity and few people speak about him
www.football.london
After reading it, you have to come away with the thought he would not be happy with what is happening at the club but he is so private, any steps he takes to make it right will also be quite private. (intense, focussed, hates to lose, risk taker). Utlimately, this flies in the face of the "it's only an investment to him" doesn't pass muster with what little we do know of him, but we don't know enough predict when enough is enough. I still go back to the thought that VL is bending Dad's ear and JL will have to act post DOF & Mgr hiring if it turns out to be a repeat offense. the other alternative is that the deal, whatever it is already in place but locked down on a need to know.
Chris Flynn
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Thats really interesting stuff, thanks matei took this to this thread as it pertains to Joe Lewis and why DL has retained so much power in the business. with regards to your quote, it probably is the case for investors but not for Joe Lewis.
Then skipper Michael Dawson said: "I had never met him before, so it was nice to go over there and a great experience. What a really nice guy. And that yacht is unreal! But he’s just a normal guy. You could chat to him about anything. He tunes into all the games, he loves it. We just sat there chatting. He made us feel so welcome over there. It was relaxed. A lot of team-bonding together. It helps to be able to put a face to the person investing so much in this club he wants to be successful. He’s always watching. He knows what goes on. He would remember every game, every little thing."
Yes, from an investment perspective, all investments are equal but some are more equal than others because of the emotional investment (hence the bolded part). What is baffling is the "why" he hasn't taken more direct control of the situation. In trying to understand Joe's motivation, i ran across the following article.
What Spurs owner Joe Lewis has said and others like Tiger Woods have said on him
The billionaire who owns a majority stake of Tottenham Hotspur is a figure who shies away from publicity and few people speak about him
After reading it, you have to come away with the thought he would not be happy with what is happening at the club but he is so private, any steps he takes to make it right will also be quite private. (intense, focussed, hates to lose, risk taker). Utlimately, this flies in the face of the "it's only an investment to him" doesn't pass muster with what little we do know of him, but we don't know enough predict when enough is enough. I still go back to the thought that VL is bending Dad's ear and JL will have to act post DOF & Mgr hiring if it turns out to be a repeat offense. the other alternative is that the deal, whatever it is already in place but locked down on a need to know.
13VanDerBale13
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Don’t worry lads, Beyoncé is performing tonight & those season ticket renewals are due 
