The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[Finchyid]

We’ve hired loads of DOF in Levy’s tenure and sacked a load of them - that’s part of the problem, the man never knows when to shit or twist.

It’s not Fabs fault that Nuno wanted a right back in the summer and 3 months later was sacked - especially as Fabs choice was Conte. So we buy Royal who is as much use to us now as a pair of 44 double D’s on a nun. Then we make a “club signing” at RWB rather than buying the manager what he wants.

Levy should provide a budget and then fack off away from transfer dealings.

just playing devils advocate how do we know what levy is or is not doing ?

 

[Darth Vega]

Also this idea got shot down a few years back but another thing people on here can do is e-mail the board saying you agree with the THST’s Q’s and want clear answers on our football strategy/vision.

I’ve done it previously and have had responses from a few of them, if enough of us start repeating the same Q’s and feedback it can only be helpful to the situation.
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Do it guys and gals, it’ll take you 5 mins but it all makes a difference at the moment when momentum is finally finally building with our fan base and media to try to get levy to change (yea right) or step away from the football side.

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Will do this first thing tomorrow. Will it be useless? Almost certainly, but we've not really got anything nothing to lose. I can't really sit here and moan constantly about the club not really trying and then do the same myself. If the #NoToGattuso hashtag on twitter could have an impact then it's worth a go.

 

[rossdapep]

Sell. Step down. Take an early retirement.

Leave the football decision to people who know about football.

There are lots different things he could do to help the club.

You're right, of course.

But the biggest issue is that because he sees himself as this guardian of the club, he believes that only he can protect, be responsible with the finances whilst generating more.

You could see how emotional he was when the stadium was finally unveiled, that was everything he'd likely dreamt of, years of planning, hard work towards something so mesmerizing - one of the best stadiums in the world.

Like anything that yoive dreamt of and accomplished, it's pretty hard to give it up or accept that there will be new custodians. I mean, it is the fans' stadium and not 'his' per se but it has his vision imprinted in it and he probably believes he's owed some gratitude.

I don't see him wanting to hand the keys over to someone else.

He also probably believes he can bring success, but is to set on his ways to do it any other way than he always has. I imagine he believes it can be done his way.

He seems pretty deluded, especially when he said you don't need to spend big money to be succesful because unfortunately in modern football, you do.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I think one of the challenges for Levy, but also ENIC, there really is not much more they can do to grow the value of the club - other than investing in the squad.

Training ground, and Stadium were big internal investments that helped grow the value of the club without significant additional capital from ENIC.

But, what is left - is building the brand of the team - and that is not really Levy's forte.

 

[only1waddle]

You're right, of course.

But the biggest issue is that because he sees himself as this guardian of the club, he believes that only he can protect, be responsible with the finances whilst generating more.

You could see how emotional he was when the stadium was finally unveiled, that was everything he'd likely dreamt of, years of planning, hard work towards something so mesmerizing - one of the best stadiums in the world.

Like anything that yoive dreamt of and accomplished, it's pretty hard to give it up or accept that there will be new custodians. I mean, it is the fans' stadium and not 'his' per se but it has his vision imprinted in it and he probably believes he's owed some gratitude.

I don't see him wanting to hand the keys over to someone else.

He also probably believes he can bring success, but is to set on his ways to do it any other way than he always has. I imagine he believes it can be done his way.

He seems pretty deluded, especially when he said you don't need to spend big money to be succesful because unfortunately in modern football, you do.

This is the bit that is totally mental, if we had a plan and bought players for a set formation and philosophy it would be more economically sound, we'd still make a few mistakes here and there like every club does but not the continual mishmash we have now, we've got decent buying power, coupled with good recruitment, I think we win something every now and then with a decent plan and continuity, and not spending mega money like City.

 

[Darth Vega]

I think one of the challenges for Levy, but also ENIC, there really is not much more they can do to grow the value of the club - other than investing in the squad.

Training ground, and Stadium were big internal investments that helped grow the value of the club without significant additional capital from ENIC.

But, what is left - is building the brand of the team - and that is not really Levy's forte.

They also have no financial incentive to do it. The financial difference between 1st and 4th or winning a cup and not is completely negligible. Think of how many hundreds of millions we'd need to consistently spend to maybe win something, and that something could be the Carabao Cup. It just doesn't make any financial sense for them to make us any more than what we are, especially given how competitive the league is now. It's basically a worse version of post-Emirates era Arsenal; as long as we're in and around the Champions League places often enough then their work here is done.

 

[Joe Bjorn Hotspur]

That’s a great shout/gesture.

How do we organise this and get enough buy-in from match going fans is the next Q

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[septicsac]

I think one of the challenges for Levy, but also ENIC, there really is not much more they can do to grow the value of the club - other than investing in the squad.

Training ground, and Stadium were big internal investments that helped grow the value of the club without significant additional capital from ENIC.

But, what is left - is building the brand of the team - and that is not really Levy's forte.

Not arguing about the stadium generating income, but the fabled training ground could do with churning out a few stars sooner rather than later.

 

[Dannyspur]

I’ve said it before, the sooner we all stop mistaking Tottenham Hotspur for a football club and realise that Levy and Co are running a retail outlet who specialise in selling tickets to football matches, football merch, beer and sausage rolls, the happier we will all be

 

[BujuBanton]

just playing devils advocate how do we know what levy is or is not doing ?

Because we have 20 years worth of evidence that proves it.

 

[Dakes]

It would be hard - but the easiest way to force change at the club is through an organized "strike" by supporters.

Pick one home game, and get as many supporters/Ticket holders as possible to "picket" outside of the stadium - instead of going in to the game. The sight of even a half-empty stadium on TV followed by coverage of the protests going on outside of the stadium would create the kind of viral moment that would require even Joe Lewis to act - to protect his interest in the club, lest the unrest continue to drive down the value of the club.

The other idea would be a massive walk-out in the middle of the game - say at the 30' mark. Fans streaming out of the stadium, again on TV, would be a massive talking point for weeks for football pundits around the world.

This would draw the required attention for sure.

 

[vicbob]

just playing devils advocate how do we know what levy is or is not doing ?

Because we have eyes and ears and we can also smell bullshit coming from Hotspur Way ?‍

 

[Dakes]

The premise of this thread is flawed. Daniel Levy is not just the chairman, he is an owner.

The only way you truly "oust" an owner is by putting up the funds or identifying someone who would be willing to, to buy out his stake.. Without sounding too abrasive, if the QSI investment doesn't come to fruition it is time for the fanbase to put up or shut up.

You suggesting fan ownership of the club like Bayern (I think they're owned that way, not sure though)? Is there any club in English football with this ownership model? I would be very interested to know how this model works and if it could work in England. I'm not English, so probably won't be able to be part of such an ownership structure, or is it possible for foreigners to be part of fan ownership?

This idea intrigues me. But I'm clueless about it.

 

[Clockspur]

just playing devils advocate how do we know what levy is or is not doing ?

The last 23 years have given a good indication

 

[Dakes]

Levy has his many faults but I do not blame him for our turgid performance this season. Its down to Conte, who was backed in the last two windows I may add. It seems that Conte is God and therefore not culpable by most of you.

We want to play the ball(d head) and not the man (Conte)

 

[Dakes]

Nah mate, it's not Stockholm syndrome, it's just that there are plenty of people who are capable of rational thought. All this Levy out nonsense is just embarrassing and shows that some people really have no idea how the real world works.

So the footballing side of the club is run in a rational way? I see it as irrational, and therefore those opposing this are being rational.

 

[Dakes]

DL hasn't changed one bit...

Willian: "I was in London for two weeks, waiting, waiting for Tottenham to decide because they were in a situation where Gareth Bale was in the process of leaving them to join Real Madrid. Liverpool were also interested. I wasn’t sure about Chelsea. They’d shown interest but it wasn’t so firm at first. Chelsea came on the day I was going to sign the contract with Spurs. I was at Tottenham’s training ground to finalise the deal when the call came. My agent said to me, ‘Chelsea just called me and they want you’. I said, ‘OK, I want to go there!’. Then I left the training ground and went back to the hotel. It was a difficult situation because I’d agreed more or less to join Spurs. But in my mind was only Chelsea. Once the deal between Anzhi and Chelsea was agreed, I only wanted to go there. It was the best decision of my career."

Luckily Chelsea didn't swoop on N'koudou during the weeks he was waiting, waiting in a hotel here, we got our man.

 

[WhiteStripe]

£6.29 for a CAN of Guinness in the stadium!

Ah the heady days of when the stadium opened and things looked pretty good value. How easily we were sucked in to mr Levy’s grand plan. Tickets should come with a couple of cans included to help numb the pain!!

On another note, what you keep saying about the position of the away fans is spot on. Massive own goal on our part popping them there and the home fans the opposite end. That was a big part of the atmosphere and match day experience at the old stadium. The banter, the song offs, the rivalry.

 

[Dov67]

As I mentioned in the ENIC thread a few weeks ago.

ENIC have absolutely no incentive to change. They will in all likelihood post world record breaking profits in Feb (coincidentally just after the transfer window closes) and they would have done so without the kind of player investment that our direct rivals have shown and while winning a single league cup in their 22 years of ownership.

Player investment required to win trophies and properly compete requires hundreds of millions over many years and you are still not GUARANTEED to win the title for example.

It is outside their risk appetite. Why should he change if he can make profits few if any other club in the world can make while at the same time winning F**K ALL for years and years??

This is how ENIC are thinking and they will never change, unless we can make it so uncomfortable for them, so unpleasant in the ground, so threatening to their brand that they seek new owners.

PS - i dont for a single moment believe this is easy, inevitable, simple to organise, or can be done in a few months, but after years of giving them the benefit of the doubt, enough is enough

 

[Stalteri’s Eyebrow]

Ah the heady days of when the stadium opened and things looked pretty good value. How easily we were sucked in to mr Levy’s grand plan. Tickets should come with a couple of cans included to help numb the pain!!

On another note, what you keep saying about the position of the away fans is spot on. Massive own goal on our part popping them there and the home fans the opposite end. That was a big part of the atmosphere and match day experience at the old stadium. The banter, the song offs, the rivalry.

Totally agree with the second paragraph, I sit West Stand Lower and was adjacent to that great spectacle.

I also miss the gentle kiss of coins hitting my head every so often!