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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Why are the trust in the mud? And I would assume it was held this week as he talks about hiring Ange. Which would mean it was WITHIN THE PAST FEW DAYS AT THE MOST.

The Trust were in the meeting, fans have called for Levy to communicate more. What's the issue here?

Levy never does anything right - haven’t you got the memo yet?
 

spursfan77

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Why are the trust in the mud? And I would assume it was held this week as he talks about hiring Ange. Which would mean it was WITHIN THE PAST FEW DAYS AT THE MOST.

The Trust were in the meeting, fans have called for Levy to communicate more. What's the issue here?

chill mon
 

thelak

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What is with this fucking generation having to film people in public.

I've got a huge gripe with Levy but if I saw him out in public I wouldn't say anything to him. He still has a right to live his life.

Leave people in peace
Personally I would love to have a respectful and reasoned conversation with him to understand what he really thinks and tell him some of my viewpoints too

the reality is very few know what he actually wants from the club and what he feels he needs to do to drive long term success
 

McArchibald

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Personally I would love to have a respectful and reasoned conversation with him to understand what he really thinks and tell him some of my viewpoints too

the reality is very few know what he actually wants from the club and what he feels he needs to do to drive long term success
I'll have a stab: he wants to take out as much money as he possibly can from the club, now and when the sale finally happens. As for driving long term success... he has no idea what long term success constitutes. For himself, long term success equates to money in the bank, but the fans are getting restless so he's tried to keep the wolves at bay with a trophy while spending as little as possible getting one. Hence the Mourinho and Conte appointments.
Now that that has backfired spectacularly, he's at a loss. He will now try to copy someone else's success formula, and should that fail, he'll try another one. Just as long as the proviso of spending as little as possible is being met. Because Levy will always look after ENIC's interests first and foremost.
 

Albertbarich

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Re those comments yesterday.

His FFP obsession is particularly frustrating. Were the furthest away from FFP in the league, last I checked we had the lowest wage to turnover ratio in the league aswell. So yeah it's important these rules are followed but he can't really stop states doing as they please and he could focus on our own lack of ambition here far more to make the gap up.

With ENIC I feel like they love to reap the benefits of being a Premier league club. The TV money, the international exposure, the customers that turn up no matter what but they don't seem as keen to meet their responsibilities that come with it. There is no desperation to be the best team in the Premier league, everything is off kilter in favour of being the best business.

When you add that to the chairman's attitude that he doesn't feel he is at fault for any of our problems then you can see where the problem lies. He can say he wants a manager that does this and that but all the previous managers have been his choice. He can say they have backed the managers and were hurt by recruitment but we all know the devil is in the detail and those managers won't agree at all and they have a point. Also in regards to recruitment I don't see any lessons learned at all..Pedro Porro is a shining example of this. Here we have a right wing back brought at great expense for a manager who didn't want to be here . So they buy him anyway and now we have been chasing managers who don't play wing backs and now our new manager is going to have to try and completely retrain him in a totally different role or just play him out of position. It's mad. Even our other January signing in Danjuma was atrocious. Brought in without the manager wanting him and then the poor guy had his career on hold for diz months because of it and we wasted loads in wages.

I love the new manager appointment and I'm really excited by having someone like Ange but I don't see why or how any football fan would have faith in this ownership.
 

purple8

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So he didn't once mention about aiming to win silverware just to play exciting football
I thought that's what everyone wanted . Morinio and Conte ball would have eventually given silverware. But everyone hated the low block football
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Such a skinflint that Levy , don't know why we put up with him, start the revolution !!!

We’ve taken a look at every Premier League club’s net spend since Conte was named Spurs manager back in November 2021.

With the 53-year-old tactician at the helm, Spurs had the fifth-highest net spend in the Premier League over the past 18 months.

Daniel Levy sanctioned almost £155million in terms of net spend, which was marginally more than old rivals Arsenal and considerably more than Liverpool and Manchester City over the same period.


PS. 13/6 Assume these disagrees mean that some don't think Levy is a skinflint, interesting.
 
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Albertbarich

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Such a skinflint that Levy , don't know why we put up with him, start the revolution !!!

We’ve taken a look at every Premier League club’s net spend since Conte was named Spurs manager back in November 2021.

With the 53-year-old tactician at the helm, Spurs had the fifth-highest net spend in the Premier League over the past 18 months.

Daniel Levy sanctioned almost £155million in terms of net spend, which was marginally more than old rivals Arsenal and considerably more than Liverpool and Manchester City over the same period.
Who were the four head? And why would you point that one stat out in isolation without context? Was the 155 million enough? Well we no longer have that manager and are now out of Europe... Meanwhile the scum are back in the champions league, Liverpool finished above us after a nightmare season and have already started rebuilding their midfield and city are tonight playing the biggest game in the world for a treble.
 

BENNO

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Who were the four head? And why would you point that one stat out in isolation without context? Was the 155 million enough? Well we no longer have that manager and are now out of Europe... Meanwhile the scum are back in the champions league, Liverpool finished above us after a nightmare season and have already started rebuilding their midfield and city are tonight playing the biggest game in the world for a treble.
Does it need context, it's a fact......which is pretty rare on this thread given the twisted bollocks usually spouted.
 

sidford

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Does it need context, it's a fact......which is pretty rare on this thread given the twisted bollocks usually spouted.
Most people recognise it's not about how much has been spent but rather the how and why. Harry's time as manager perfectly reflects that. In his first January window when we were very poor and potentially looking at a relegation battle we got in Defoe, Keane, palacios and chimbonda and because of that we had a very good second half of season. Fast forward 2 years and we were on for a title chase and Harry wanted Cahill and Tevez in the January window but got Saha and Nelson and ultimately our title challenge ended before it properly began.

He will spend money but often badly and with no strategic planning behind it. Those are the issues with him. Sure look at Porro signing, everyone knew Conte wasn't staying but we still chase Porro for the entire window and spend 40m on him. He is a specialist wing back and chances are Contes replacement would not play with wingbacks. Ange might be able to convert him to a full back but why such a gamble at 40m?! Lack of planning and strategy.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Who were the four head? And why would you point that one stat out in isolation without context? Was the 155 million enough? Well we no longer have that manager and are now out of Europe... Meanwhile the scum are back in the champions league, Liverpool finished above us after a nightmare season and have already started rebuilding their midfield and city are tonight playing the biggest game in the world for a treble.
It was more the point that he is continually being accused of being a skinflint and the facts are Spurs as a club are not.
Spurs have the 5th highest income in the PL at the moment and have the 5th highest paid first team squad.
They do spend in the transfer market, unfortunately whoever scouted players like N'dombele got it badly wrong.
 

bubble07

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I thought that's what everyone wanted . Morinio and Conte ball would have eventually given silverware. But everyone hated the low block football

Think a reference to winning silverware wouldn't have hurt. But he didn't say it so he isn't accountable when it doesn't happen
 

Albertbarich

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It was more the point that he is continually being accused of being a skinflint and the facts are Spurs as a club are not.
Spurs have the 5th highest income in the PL at the moment and have the 5th highest paid first team squad.
They do spend in the transfer market, unfortunately whoever scouted players like N'dombele got it badly wrong.
He has spent money for the past couple of years but not enough considering the previous years were so tight because of the stadium and the spending or lack thereof has contributed to the huge upheaval and unrest we have had.

The net spend argument is a flawed one in both sides as there are so many other factors. Wage to turnover is one I always look at as our is so much lower, but also our refusal /inability to sell players at the right time, the buying of players managers don't want, buying players for specific managers who arent here for two minutes.

Calling him a skinflint is just an insult, my question I ask myself is does he want us to compete with the best and when I look at it I don't think he does, or at least I think he won't do what's needed to make that happen.
 

pablo73

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I wish people would stop banging on about how much money we spend, especially over the last few years. It's a red herring and makes it easy for Levy and his valiant defenders to counter justified criticism.

The issue isn't how much we spend, it's the fact that we spend it without any coherent strategy in place, we often look for 'value' (ie bargains) at the expense of what we actually need and we hang on to players for far too long in a vain and unrealistic attempt to recoup money that is never going to get recouped.

So we inevitably end up with a lot of false economies and a very unbalanced squad. All of this (lack of) strategy is overseen by Levy and the fact that he doesn't seem able to recognise (or at least acknowledge) this is a pretty big fucking problem and until he does nothing is going to change in any kind of meaningful way.
 

BENNO

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He has spent money for the past couple of years but not enough considering the previous years were so tight because of the stadium and the spending or lack thereof has contributed to the huge upheaval and unrest we have had.

The net spend argument is a flawed one in both sides as there are so many other factors. Wage to turnover is one I always look at as our is so much lower, but also our refusal /inability to sell players at the right time, the buying of players managers don't want, buying players for specific managers who arent here for two minutes.

Calling him a skinflint is just an insult, my question I ask myself is does he want us to compete with the best and when I look at it I don't think he does, or at least I think he won't do what's needed to make that happen.
You are not the first person who seems to have forgotten the impact of Covid on our finances - didn't we lose more revenue than any other club in world football , some £200m odd ? I'm guessing we are only just about in a position to reap the real benefits from the stadium, having had to play 'catch up' since those loses.
 

Albertbarich

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You are not the first person who seems to have forgotten the impact of Covid on our finances - didn't we lose more revenue than any other club in world football , some £200m odd ? I'm guessing we are only just about in a position to reap the real benefits from the stadium, having had to play 'catch up' since those loses.
Are you happy with how the club b has been run in the past few years?
 

mil1lion

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We spent enough since Paratici arrived but there's 2 major issues. 1 is we've been playing catchup since the year with no signings. Where was the last window when Poch needed it for example. Our defence is falling apart so we need another window like last summer to fix it. The rebuild is not complete yet and its largely down to point 2. Point 2 being that who we spend on has at times been a waste because we've signed 3 right wing or full backs under Paratici for example. 1 was signed for a back 4 and another was not even played under Conte so got loaned. So it's one thing to spend money and another to spend on who the manager wants and needs. Even Bissouma hardly played under Conte which makes me think he wasn't who he wanted but was too good a deal in Levys mind. Now we have a manager who plays a different formation and style. We just have to hope we have enough players to fit it.
 
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