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Gbspurs

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I think the problem is Poch has sat on his hands for too long. And now it's all culminated.

Mistake #1

When Wanyama did his ACL he didn't sign anybody. Should have been looking for the very best replacementthe next day

Mistake #2

Sold Dembele and didn't replace him. Players must have been a bit bewildered that our best player ( although injury prone) was let go in that manner.

Mistake #3

Selling Trippier. Most of us agreed with this at the time but has been proven now to be disastrous. Again no replacement, we needed Foyth and one other, preferably a top class one with a bit of experience.


What I loved about 'Arry was that he was constantly looking to upgrade every position. I just don't see that from Poch, there's no urgency to be the best. If he does stay longer he needs to start getting a bit more ruthless otherwise I doubt he'll ever win much.

Selling Trippier wasn't a mistake, if anything he sold him a year too late. We should have signing a replacement for him and sold him World Cup summer.
 

danielneeds

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yet came on against RSB, created a goal and on several other occasions found himself in acres of space... I know RSB were shit but Sess is clearly an intelligent player, looking for space to get into and then being productive with the ball. I think he’ll be superb in a wingback position. The only issue with WB’s is barring the frozen out KWP, none of the others are good enough going forward.
He’s a good player, and did well against a beaten and very poor RSB. But as we’ve seen with Ndombele and Lo Celso, the PL intensity is a different proposition. I think the idea is the ease him in at LW, build up his confidence and tactical awareness.
 

muppetman

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I think some of you sometimes forget that the player gets a say in whether he is sold also. It's not fantasy football and it may well be that the players in 2017 didn't want to go anywhere.

Whilst we've complained about the wages we pay there aren't actually that many clubs that pay more (in the grand scheme of things) so if those clubs aren't interested or attractive then who is going to leave Spurs on £70k a week to move to Watford on £40k a week?
 

Japhet

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He’s a good player, and did well against a beaten and very poor RSB. But as we’ve seen with Ndombele and Lo Celso, the PL intensity is a different proposition. I think the idea is the ease him in at LW, build up his confidence and tactical awareness.


I think you're right but we desperately need some more creativity from our fullbacks, and Sessegnon won't be getting much time on the pitch when we're relying so much on Son. It's a risk defensively using Sess at LB but not in all games, and if it pays off offensively it's a risk worth taking IMO.
 

pedrodelawasp

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We probably need to prioritse a left-footed centre back as well.

Anyone know of any (aside from Ake who could be a good option).

Dan Axel Zagadou is considered a bright prospect but is still a largely unproven quantity.
 

Ron Burgundy

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I just can’t see us solving all these issues in time to get us back in the top 4 this season.

IMO, if we don’t, there’s a serious risk of losing some big players this summer
 

spursfan77

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I just can’t see us solving all these issues in time to get us back in the top 4 this season.

IMO, if we don’t, there’s a serious risk of losing some big players this summer

unless we are in the bottom three I bet we get nobody in.
 

Joely

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Only see us making a move for a player in January if Levy potentially sees one that he sees potential value in....i.e isn't playing much for his current team or contract running down. Unfortunately, not sure that approach will work with the gaping holes we have in the team let alone in the squad. January might be more about trying to shift a couple from the squad.
 

Spurslove

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I just can’t see us solving all these issues in time to get us back in the top 4 this season.

IMO, if we don’t, there’s a serious risk of losing some big players this summer

You may be right, but to be fair, some of those so-called 'big players' have to take their individual share of the blame for us being utter shit this calendar year. We can't blame Poch for us being unable to pass the ball 15 yards to a colleague or to create a goalscoring chance, or take a decent set piece.

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rossdapep

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I can’t see Poch lasting If we lose our next game to a relegation form West Ham. DL will have some big decisions to make. Not only to back or sack Poch but also which manager to replace him with. Best stadium in the world, one of the best training grounds, require you to have one of the worlds biggest/best managers. So if DL sacks Poch and decides to sign a yes man like Eddie Howe then you will soon see our top players leaving. Whether you like him or not, Mourinho is a winner, and has the respect and stature that would have other clubs fearing us again. But DL would need to change his philosophy otherwise Mourinho would tell him to do one after a season.
Whilst I fully agree, mate. You may want to put it in the right thread. Especially as people value your opinions.
 

Joely

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I can’t see Poch lasting If we lose our next game to a relegation form West Ham. DL will have some big decisions to make. Not only to back or sack Poch but also which manager to replace him with. Best stadium in the world, one of the best training grounds, require you to have one of the worlds biggest/best managers. So if DL sacks Poch and decides to sign a yes man like Eddie Howe then you will soon see our top players leaving. Whether you like him or not, Mourinho is a winner, and has the respect and stature that would have other clubs fearing us again. But DL would need to change his philosophy otherwise Mourinho would tell him to do one after a season.

Levy won't change and nor will Mourinho. Year to year a half into it, Mourinho will start his usual ramblings/rants in the media. This is a guy who was moaning about transfer business at Utd, wait until he has to work with Levy. Whole thing would have a predictable ending.
 

danielneeds

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Levy won't change and nor will Mourinho. Year to year a half into it, Mourinho will start his usual ramblings/rants in the media. This is a guy who was moaning about transfer business at Utd, wait until he has to work with Levy. Whole thing would have a predictable ending.
I can just picture SC after we go to the Emirates and play a 5-5-0 formation under Jose. Lo Celso playing at 2nd fullback and Ndombele forbidden from dribbling.
 

brendanb50

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Levy won't change and nor will Mourinho. Year to year a half into it, Mourinho will start his usual ramblings/rants in the media. This is a guy who was moaning about transfer business at Utd, wait until he has to work with Levy. Whole thing would have a predictable ending.

I get the frustration with Poch but i fail to understand the Mourinho hype from Spurs fans. He was an unrivalled success, an exceptional manager but look at his record this past 10 years. Still a trophy winner but not the emphatic success he was. This isn't due to being at smaller clubs with no budget, he's had money to spend, he's had time at those clubs and it's all fallen apart usually under a cloud of outbursts from him and disaffection from fans who've been sick of his ego and the lack of entertaining football.

I'm still for Poch - i think there's a clear rift in that squad with at least 5 players who will be leaving in the summer. I've bolded that as i think it's missing from many people's assessment of our current state. Do we sack Poch, when we all know that a) those players who will be off, b) those players who aren't quite good enough and c) the issue these factors are having on our team? For me no - but it's going to be a tough year waiting out this rot.

He's his own worst enemy at times though with tactics and not using some of the younger options, who deserve more of a chance.

In Jan and the summer the work MUST continue. We need to land something in terms of a defensive option ASAP - surely? A RB/LB/CB or DM - in Jan. We must have one target who's available across those positions.
 

rossdapep

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I get the frustration with Poch but i fail to understand the Mourinho hype from Spurs fans. He was an unrivalled success, an exceptional manager but look at his record this past 10 years. Still a trophy winner but not the emphatic success he was. This isn't due to being at smaller clubs with no budget, he's had money to spend, he's had time at those clubs and it's all fallen apart usually under a cloud of outbursts from him and disaffection from fans who've been sick of his ego and the lack of entertaining football.

I'm still for Poch - i think there's a clear rift in that squad with at least 5 players who will be leaving in the summer. I've bolded that as i think it's missing from many people's assessment of our current state. Do we sack Poch, when we all know that a) those players who will be off, b) those players who aren't quite good enough and c) the issue these factors are having on our team? For me no - but it's going to be a tough year waiting out this rot.

He's his own worst enemy at times though with tactics and not using some of the younger options, who deserve more of a chance.

In Jan and the summer the work MUST continue. We need to land something in terms of a defensive option ASAP - surely? A RB/LB/CB or DM - in Jan. We must have one target who's available across those positions.
He's won La Liga, the Prem and Europa League in the last 8 years.
 

brendanb50

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He's won La Liga, the Prem and Europa League in the last 8 years.

Apologies - i did miss the Chelsea title in 14-15.

I'm not saying these aren't big achievements, they are. The la liga is the least impressive from my perspective given the dominance of either Real or Barca - it tends to be a two-horse race. Admittedly winning the prem and the Europa are big wins and tough comps - but you are talking about a manager who spent in those wins about £125m and £210m respectively. That's without what was spent prior or after.

I still struggle to see where the fit is for him/us.

We spent net £90m this past year - a big change for us. Does this shift mean we're a better fit for JM? Possibly but you need to consider he spends that each year and look at what he's bought in recent times, last year at United for example. As hit and miss as many would criticize Poch for.

We're probably in the wrong thread but i don't see what a shift to JM would do for us this season and i'm not sure he's a fit for how we run the club in the longer term. Many complain that this is the step we need to take to win trophies and it's hard to argue with JMs record but i have the patience to rebuild. I get that many don't.

JM would be a draw for new signings but Poch did well in the summer for us with the 3 core players he added, who we've sadly not seen enough of due to fitness/injury.
 

rossdapep

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Apologies - i did miss the Chelsea title in 14-15.

I'm not saying these aren't big achievements, they are. The la liga is the least impressive from my perspective given the dominance of either Real or Barca - it tends to be a two-horse race. Admittedly winning the prem and the Europa are big wins and tough comps - but you are talking about a manager who spent in those wins about £125m and £210m respectively. That's without what was spent prior or after.

I still struggle to see where the fit is for him/us.

We spent net £90m this past year - a big change for us. Does this shift mean we're a better fit for JM? Possibly but you need to consider he spends that each year and look at what he's bought in recent times, last year at United for example. As hit and miss as many would criticize Poch for.

We're probably in the wrong thread but i don't see what a shift to JM would do for us this season and i'm not sure he's a fit for how we run the club in the longer term. Many complain that this is the step we need to take to win trophies and it's hard to argue with JMs record but i have the patience to rebuild. I get that many don't.

JM would be a draw for new signings but Poch did well in the summer for us with the 3 core players he added, who we've sadly not seen enough of due to fitness/injury.
He will likely need to spend sure but I think the only time hes really been angry aboit signings was at United. At Chelsea he fell out with Abramovich cause he signed Shevchenko - who he didn't want - and then players and other colleagues second time around.

At Inter he didn't spend too heavily and didn't request world beaters. At Chelsea second time round he spent 110m and recouped 85m in his second season to win the title.

At Madrid, he blew away the points and goals scored record and when you consider he was up against Guardiola and the greatest team ever, that's a huge achievement.

I get the concerns with him, I really do. I've aired them before. But two successful seasons could really put us in the elite bracket. So much so that other great coaches will want to come after him - Chelsea have had no issues since he left and won trophies too.

Yes, he's pragmatic and can be negative but I think that's when he really has to get a result. Plenty of times in his reign at Chelsea they hammered teams. They were efficient and ruthless.

I'd love to go into the big games knowing he's going to make it hard for the opposition.
 
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