The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

[Colonel Dax]

What we need is money. We now have the stadium but consistently being in the CL every season is a great way to get it. We have made huge amounts over the last few years from it.

Oh I agree we need money and the stadium will help with that. However I have my doubts about whether the extra money generated from the stadium (and CL) will be ploughed back into team building in a significant way. 3 years of CL revenue hasn't resulted in a marked increase in transfer spending. We may see a slight enlargement of the transfer budget and wage bill over the short to medium term but personally I think Levy's overall model will stay the same.

 

[EriksenFollower]

Sorry but for all the abuse and criticism Levy gets, attempting to gain maximum financial renumeration for a player attracting the attention of the worlds biggest & most successful clubs is standard practice, and what all clubs do.

On form, and taking into account the way transfer fees have gone absolutely bloody mental, Eriksen is a £100m+ player.

NO CLUB sells at (what you described as) a fair price.

My point was Ajax were always gonna sell. Of course they want to cash in, but they also know their players move on. Ajax is a stepping stone. I have no problem with clubs cashing in, but there is a much bigger risk of Levy outpricing a dreammove, than Ajax doing it.

And I have no issue with Levy btw.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

My point was Ajax were always gonna sell. Of course they want to cash in, but they also know their players move on. Ajax is a stepping stone. I have no problem with clubs cashing in, but there is a much bigger risk of Levy outpricing a dreammove, than Ajax doing it.

And I have no issue with Levy btw.

I didn't/don't think you have a problem with Levy.

Levy has never out-priced any of our previous players dream moves, they've all got the move they wanted. Levy just made sure that the club got what it wanted in return.

He's absolutely been the reason we've still got players who we really shouldn't have, because he's expected top dollar for them, despite them blatantly not being good enough for us, or not being any use to us.

Asking premium prices for inferior products is silly & unrealistic.

However, when it comes to the likes of Eriksen, and the likes of Berbatov, Modric and Bale before him, Levy is right to not only expect, but demand premium prices.

 

[Lighty64]

Agree to a certain extent but obviously people are more excited about the prospect of seeing a team aiming to win titles rather than “just getting by and competing if we can.” Obviously new signings play a big part in that. It’s no coincidence that we get an influx of news stories and ITK that is usually full of exciting names and big money budget promises around the times of season ticket renewals. It’s clearly a marketing strategy just as printing posters etc.

we got talk at the end of the winter we signed Moura that we should be in for an interesting summer. we haven't this season. all the big names came out nearly after the ST window closed.

if I was offered a ST tomorrow for next season and I could afford it, I'd buy 1, because I want to watch Spurs play for real and be involved with the atmosphere. I'd never um and arh on who we might buy before committing

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

The problem is Maddison nor Brooks would have got into our starting eleven hence why they probably signed for lower teams where they were garanteed game time, this is the reality of the situation - it may change in the Summer though depending on who leaves.

100% agreed mate, we need to not only take the chances on the signing, but also give the players a chance to play in the starting 11 like we did with Dele.

If we had given Maddison or Brooks the chance in our 11 for the first few months I think they would've done just as good if not better than they already have, if they were surrounded by the players we have at our disposal.

Yes these players probably wanted guaranteed starting places in our team which I'm sure all professional players want, that's where we need to take the risk and let them know that they are in contention just as much as anyone else. This not only motivates the new players but lights a fire under the current players too. Then we won't have complacency.

If we shoved Dele on the bench for a few months when he got here, I doubt he would've turned in the crucial player he is for us today. That was a big chance and it paid off handsomely.

I want us to return to this way of doing business. It suits our club and to be honest growing and nurturing young talent is the biggest attribute Poch brings to the table, amongst all his extraordinary managerial talents.

 

[phil]

The problem is Maddison nor Brooks would have got into our starting eleven hence why they probably signed for lower teams where they were garanteed game time, this is the reality of the situation - it may change in the Summer though depending on who leaves.

They signed for 'lower teams' because none of the top teams were interested. I know that Maddison (allegedly) turned us down in favour of Norwich when he left Coventry because he was concerned about lack of game time but that wasn't the case last summer. Last season, he had been lighting up the Championship and looked a top player in the making. Unfortunately, Levy thought he could get Grealish on the cheap and gave Leicester a free run for Maddison. Interestingly, I don't recall anybody on SC calling for us to sign Brooks when he was at Sheffield United. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I'm all for us taking a punt on young players but there is no guarantee that they will turn out to be the next Brooks, Maddison or Dele. We took a punt on N'Jie and N'Koudou but it didn't work out. The problem then is, we are unable to sell them and they take up squad space. How many times last summer did we get ITK saying 'we must sell before we can buy'? We need to be more ruthless in clearing out the deadwood (if necessary just paying off their contracts). We cannot have another window where incomings are blocked until we sell Janssen, N'Koudou. I'd also include Wanyama in that category unless he can overcome his chronic injury.

There are no guarantee with transfers. Last summer Liverpool spent c£90m on two midfielders (Fabinho and Keita) who have hardly played. We cannot afford such profligacy.

 

[guy]

I would keep Lucas. He has had a fair few good cameos this year. It might be a similar situation to Son in that he may find more constistentcy to his game in his second full season. He is unlike anything we have in the squad and he does scare defenders. Liverpool couldn't cope with him at times in the first half on Sunday. The talent is there for sure.

Agree he played well, but my god he is inconsistent. He's had 5 or 6 good appearances this season and 20 mediocre ones. I just feel new blood is needed and Lamela or Moura probably need to make way. Perhaps Eriksen will be the only one to go from the 5 AMs.

 

[Shadydan]

100% agreed mate, we need to not only take the chances on the signing, but also give the players a chance to play in the starting 11 like we did with Dele.

If we had given Maddison or Brooks the chance in our 11 for the first few months I think they would've done just as good if not better than they already have, if they were surrounded by the players we have at our disposal.

Yes these players probably wanted guaranteed starting places in our team which I'm sure all professional players want, that's where we need to take the risk and let them know that they are in contention just as much as anyone else. This not only motivates the

If we shoved Dele on the bench for a few months when he got here, I doubt he would've turned in the crucial player he is for us today. That was a big chance and it paid off handsomely.

I want us to return to this way of doing business. It suits our club and to be honest growing and nurturing young talent is the biggest attribute Poch brings to the table, amongst all his extraordinary managerial talents.

I think we are or were stuck between a rock and a hard place. We were constantly told that our starting eleven for the past couple of seasons were either the best or one of the best starting elevens in the league and it was difficult to upgrade due to the fact that we'd have to break the bank to bring someone in.

The reason why Dele thrived at the time is because we weren't chasing a league title, we weren't as good as we are now. We could afford to bed him in because we had time to harness his potential, time is something we don't have now. The margins for error are so fine in this league to the point where you can't really afford to allow players with minimal experience to bed in

I suspect what we have been looking for in the past couple of summers are players that would walk into our starting eleven which is near on impossible or players who were content with being rotated in and out the team. Maddison or Brooks or any other young player were not good enough to break into our team because of lack of experience and considering that they are playing and starting for lower teams is made perfect sense for their career trajectory, why would you want to come and sit on Spurs' bench when you can play week in week out for a middling team in the same league, it doesn't make any sense.

Look I'm all for us going back to this strategy but you have to realise why it's not been possible to sign young players, as I said I think that may change in the summer, depending on who leaves.

 

[Japhet]

I think we are or were stuck between a rock and a hard place. We were constantly told that our starting eleven for the past couple of seasons were either the best or one of the best starting elevens in the league and it was difficult to upgrade due to the fact that we'd have to break the bank to bring someone in.

The reason why Dele thrived at the time is because we weren't chasing a league title, we weren't as good as we are now. We could afford to bed him in because we had time to harness his potential, time is something we don't have now. The margins for error are so fine in this league to the point where you can't really afford to allow players with minimal experience to bed in

I suspect what we have been looking for in the past couple of summers are players that would walk into our starting eleven which is near on impossible or players who were content with being rotated in and out the team. Maddison or Brooks or any other young player were not good enough to break into our team because of lack of experience and considering that they are playing and starting for lower teams is made perfect sense for their career trajectory, why would you want to come and sit on Spurs' bench when you can play week in week out for a middling team in the same league, it doesn't make any sense.

Look I'm all for us going back to this strategy but you have to realise why it's not been possible to sign young players, as I said I think that may change in the summer, depending on who leaves.

We're also always trying to sign players with a sell on value which is another hindrance. The explosion in player values means that if a club have a player with potential there is a very good chance that their value will double or treble in a very short space of time. Buyong such players is a 'no brainer' but actually trying to get the deals done is very difficult. IMO you have to include sell on clauses to have much chance but I don't think Levy is up for too much of that.

 

[Primativ]

I see Countinho is linked with United and Chelsea.

We should be all over him as a replacement for Eriksen, unfortunately, we just don't dine with the big boys.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I see Countinho is linked with United and Chelsea.

We should be all over him as a replacement for Eriksen, unfortunately, we just don't dine with the big boys.

There are 200k - 300k weekly reasons why we won't/can't be all over Coutinho.

 

[jurgen]

We're also always trying to sign players with a sell on value which is another hindrance. The explosion in player values means that if a club have a player with potential there is a very good chance that their value will double or treble in a very short space of time. Buyong such players is a 'no brainer' but actually trying to get the deals done is very difficult. IMO you have to include sell on clauses to have much chance but I don't think Levy is up for too much of that.

We obviously need to sign the new Dele and Eriksen, players who were clearly playing above their current level in their previous clubs. Think about how much they're worth now compared to what we paid. Very good business. It shouldn't be a hindrance, but as you say, we need to change our sights to reflect that these players now cost lots more. If we can't accept that, then we also can't accept the methods that have got us into this good position. Our scouting does not appear good enough to go trawling for absolute bargains.

Not so good business is those players we have taken a huge punt on because they're cheap squad fillers as it's been shown to be a false economy and we can't get rid of them any more!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

What are 'Tuttosport' ? And are they dependable?

Tottenham Hotspur are among a host of European clubs chasing Douglas Costa, who is heading for the exit door at Juventus.

 

[Japhet]

We obviously need to sign the new Dele and Eriksen, players who were clearly playing above their current level in their previous clubs. Think about how much they're worth now compared to what we paid. Very good business. It shouldn't be a hindrance, but as you say, we need to change our sights to reflect that these players now cost lots more. If we can't accept that, then we also can't accept the methods that have got us into this good position. Our scouting does not appear good enough to go trawling for absolute bargains.

Not so good business is those players we have taken a huge punt on because they're cheap squad fillers as it's been shown to be a false economy and we can't get rid of them any more!

I think the N'Jie and N'Koudou deals came at a time when Levy wasn't sure if he could trust Poch with a big transfer budget. As it turned out they were a waste of money (along with Janssen). By today's standards they were for next to nothing but they were still poor, speculative deals. We need to target much higher quality but in order to do so we need to accept that prices have rocketed, even for middle tier players. We won't be picking up another Dele any time soon and the academy isn't providing any real benefits (yet?). There's also a situation where players from Leicester, Burnley, Southampton etc are getting regular International call ups which is attractive to developing players, and they get those chances because they play week in, week out for their clubs.

 

[danielneeds]

What are 'Tuttosport' ? And are they dependable?

Tottenham Hotspur are among a host of European clubs chasing Douglas Costa, who is heading for the exit door at Juventus.

Bullishit. He’s had injury problems, in his late 20s and is a pretty orthodox winger, which we’ve seen time and again that Poch doesn’t use in his set-ups.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Bullishit. He’s had injury problems, in his late 20s and is a pretty orthodox winger, which we’ve seen time and again that Poch doesn’t use in his set-ups.

I know I can always depend on you for a 'to the point' response. Thanks Daniel

 

[Hakkz]

What are 'Tuttosport' ? And are they dependable?

Tottenham Hotspur are among a host of European clubs chasing Douglas Costa, who is heading for the exit door at Juventus.

Arent Tutto just a Juventus mouthpiece? Like Marca.

 

[buttons]

Hopefully if there was any reticence about signing the likes of Brooks and Madison last summer then there performances will give us confidence that there is still talent out there this time around. The likes of Aarons, Clarke and Bowen are the sort of players we've signed historically and done well from.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Arent Tutto just a Juventus mouthpiece? Like Marca.

They could be.

Then again, if I knew that, I wouldn't have asked what they are would I, old bean.

 

[cider spurs]

What are 'Tuttosport' ? And are they dependable?

Tottenham Hotspur are among a host of European clubs chasing Douglas Costa, who is heading for the exit door at Juventus.

I read an article suggesting a swap with Alderweireld being mooted. That was from Calciomercato tho' and I think I'm right in saying that there as reliable as secondhand bog roll.

What I didn't realise is the article also states that Costa has never scored more than 4 league goals for either Bayern OR Juventus. Registering one goal in nine games this season.