This Week’s Manager Watch: Ryan Mason

[Snarfalicious]

I think it’ll be interesting to see how we setup and play against Palace next weekend. It’ll be just about a full week of training, something he hasn’t had since taking over. I’m looking forward to seeing what things may be worked on and corrections made to help out with the defense.

 

[bigfrooj]

Just a thought. If we go with someone else more experienced would it be insulting or disrespectful to ask Mason to take the Spurs WSL team over? What’s the modern thinking about the Women’s game on here?
They have no manager currently and they are struggling, it puts Ryan on hold here while he proves his credentials and he can study the new Men’s managers methods.

 

[1882andallthat]

It's far too early to give him the job permanently, he has been given the caretaker role twice in extremely specific circumstances and its far too small a sample of games in each of his too stints to make a case for saying he's ready to step up full time for us a a permanent manager.

He's always known on both occasions that he has clearly been given a caretaker role and there's never been any serious intent that it being anything other than that.

Should he have been given the caretaker role earlier i.e. after the Southampton game ? Yes absolutely but even then I don't think that would be enough time to judge whether or not he is ready to take the job on a permanent basis.

He needs to be given an opportunity at a lower league club first in a permanent role and assessed over a far longer period whilst managing elsewhere to see if he has what it takes to have a go permanently here. That's my view for what it's worth.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Does anyone even know why it’s closed?

It turned into a discussion about languages also it was going round in circles and there aren’t really
any real updates at the moment so it’s good it’s been closed to calm some on here down a bit until there is something worth discussing in that thread on topic.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I think it’ll be interesting to see how we setup and play against Palace next weekend. It’ll be just about a full week of training, something he hasn’t had since taking over. I’m looking forward to seeing what things may be worked on and corrections made to help out with the defense.

Yep and he said that in his first presser that it’s only really the final 3 games where we should see his stamp on the team, palace should see the start of a change perhaps.

I’ve been bloody impressed so far tbh. Maybe it is too soon and we probably need someone new and fresh but he does tick a heck of a lot of boxes

 

[cjbyid]

Should go out on his own at the end of the season and get more experience/permanent position somewhere.

I like him but he's definitely not ready for a big job yet, still has so much time on his hands.

 

[Johnny J]

That's hardly relevant, we can get any Messiah in and changes of him winning league title with us are very slim as things stand.

I agree . I was simply responding to someone who said he might be the next Kompany, whose main achievement as a young manager is winning a title.

 

[Japhet]

I think it’ll be interesting to see how we setup and play against Palace next weekend. It’ll be just about a full week of training, something he hasn’t had since taking over. I’m looking forward to seeing what things may be worked on and corrections made to help out with the defense.

It will be interesting, not least because it won't be a free hit, unlike the last 2 games.

 

[mil1lion]

He needs to find a way out of the 343 and try and encourage the team to stop dropping off. I would go 352 with Davies and Porro as wing backs now. Allow Porro to push on and Romero cover across on the right with Davies sitting back more. Turn it from a back 5 to more of a back 4.

Forster
Romero---Sanchez---Lenglet
Porro---Kulusevski---Skipp---Hojbjerg---Davies
Kane---Son

Dier has to be dropped. Although Sanchez is shaky I think he's not so bad with 2 comfortable possession players either side. Bring Kulusevski infield some more and see if we can get better from him with Porro overlapping.

 

[HedgieSpur]

I don’t want another vastly experienced middle aged ’winner’ again. We know they won’t fit in with the way this club is run and probably with the type of football we want to see. We now need a fresh-minded progressive coach willing to work with individual players as well as build a true team ethic. If we can’t secure Slot or Nagelsmann then we may has well give Mason his chance because he is young, intelligent, progressive and knows how to make 11 individuals play as a team. And he’s proper Spurs.
To summarise - Mr Levy, respectably, you can stick your Mourinho‘s and your Conte’s up your arse.

Completely disagree with this. I want only talent (measured by contextualised performance and progression to date) , experience, style of football and ability to thrive with a DoF as our criteria.

I don’t care about age, race, nationality, subjective intangibles such as “he’s a nice guy” etc, he’s a “winner”.

We cannot afford to make a mistake in our next appointment imo so if Nagelsmann or Slot cannot be secured, then De Zerbi, Gallardo, Enrique, Amorim, Postecoglu, Kompany all are light years ahead of Mason.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

He needs to find a way out of the 343 and try and encourage the team to stop dropping off. I would go 352 with Davies and Porro as wing backs now. Allow Porro to push on and Romero cover across on the right with Davies sitting back more. Turn it from a back 5 to more of a back 4.

Forster
Romero---Sanchez---Lenglet
Porro---Kulusevski---Skipp---Hojbjerg---Davies
Kane---Son

Dier has to be dropped. Although Sanchez is shaky I think he's not so bad with 2 comfortable possession players either side. Bring Kulusevski infield some more and see if we can get better from him with Porro overlapping.

Agree a way out the 3-4-3 would be nice however how about instead of the back line you’ve suggested what if we went with:
Porro - Romero - Lenglet - Davies -Perisic

I like Kulu as RCM, only thing then is Richy’s minutes are limited again and after his last performance vs man.u and his goal off the bench he really deserves a start in which case perhaps we go with the same team that started vs man.u but drop Dier.

Also Id probably want tanganga playing over Sanchez.

Will be very interesting how he sets up for the palace game.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I don’t want another vastly experienced middle aged ’winner’ again. We know they won’t fit in with the way this club is run and probably with the type of football we want to see. We now need a fresh-minded progressive coach willing to work with individual players as well as build a true team ethic. If we can’t secure Slot or Nagelsmann then we may has well give Mason his chance because he is young, intelligent, progressive and knows how to make 11 individuals play as a team. And he’s proper Spurs.
To summarise - Mr Levy, respectably, you can stick your Mourinho‘s and your Conte’s up your arse.

Completely agree with this tbh.

Although I’d say we should try: Naglesman,Slot,Kompany,Almorim and maybe Rodgers and if all of them say no then yea may as well give it to Mason and roll the dice .

He’s a progressive young coach with 6 years experience and he gets the style of play the fans want to see, we will need a few years to build back up so if he has a few bumps in the road that would be fine as long as the longer term trajectory was upwards.

People say it’s too soon for Mason but he’s had the same years as coaching as Arteta did and more than Kompany has…

 

[Yiddo100]

Any idea when royal is back, think when he and davies are fully fit we’ll see a back four.

 

[mil1lion]

Agree a way out the 3-4-3 would be nice however how about instead of the back line you’ve suggested what if we went with:
Porro - Romero - Lenglet - Davies -Perisic

I like Kulu as RCM, only thing then is Richy’s minutes are limited again and after his last performance vs man.u and his goal off the bench he really deserves a start in which case perhaps we go with the same team that started vs man.u but drop Dier.

Also Id probably want tanganga playing over Sanchez.

Will be very interesting how he sets up for the palace game.

It's still the same issue though, it becomes a back 5 because we sit off too much. If we want to get Richarlison starting we probably would need to go back 4 instead and drop Porro for a more defensively sound full back. Although Porro has looked good going forward. It could work with Porro alongside Romero, Lenglet and Davies where Porro pushes forward and Davies stays back. Drop Perisic and play Richarlison.

The difficulty is the front line because Richarlison is poor on the right and Son is on form now but better closer to Kane. Maybe if Porro can really push forward Son or Ricarlison can play inside more from the right.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's still the same issue though, it becomes a back 5 because we sit off too much. If we want to get Richarlison starting we probably would need to go back 4 instead and drop Porro for a more defensively sound full back. Although Porro has looked good going forward. It could work with Porro alongside Romero, Lenglet and Davies where Porro pushes forward and Davies stays back. Drop Perisic and play Richarlison.

The difficulty is the front line because Richarlison is poor on the right and Son is on form now but better closer to Kane. Maybe if Porro can really push forward Son or Ricarlison can play inside more from the right.

Yep agree, lopsided back 4 could also work, worth a try against non top 6 sides in the run in at least.

Forster

Porro(Emerson when he is back)
Romero
Lenglet
Davies

Skipp
PEH

Richy
Kulu
Son

Kane

 

[Johnny J]

Naglesman,Slot,Kompany,Almorim and maybe Rodgers and if all of them say no then yea may as well give it to Mason and roll the dice .

Opinions and all that, but I just don't understand this. "Rolling the dice" here if it didn't work out with Mason could mean sliding into the bottom half of table and turning into Leicester. We can't afford to roll the dice in the situation we're in.

If we can't attract our first choices who have huge experience in managing clubs, we shouldn't turn around and just give it to a complete novice, however nice he is or however Spurs he is.

He has zero experience in many crucial aspects of the role. If we gave him the job and lost our first five games it would be an absolute bloodbath. Not fair on him either.

Our club is, from everything we know, a total mess on the football side. The last thing you'd do in this situation is put a rookie in charge.

 

[eViL]

My issue with Mason is that he's mates with Dier.

Not this shit again.. last time it was Winks.

 

[skiba]

Think we’re all just happy with a manager who understands the club being in the dugout at the moment after Jose, Nuno and Conte.

We shouldn’t get carried away though. United went with Soldkjaer as a ‘club man’ in similar circumstances who lifted the mood after Jose left and I can’t help but feel a few fans are falling into the same trap with Mason.

I have no idea what type of manager Mason is with style of play etc and he may well be or become a great manager. I just don’t see how we can form an opinion on him with such a limited sample size of games. Let’s at least see how the rest of the season pans out before even thinking about him as a permanent option.

 

[Impspur1]

Not sure why it’s seen as too early, Arteta went from city assistant manager to Arse, pep from Barca reserves and I’m sure there are many many more. Not saying he should or shouldn’t get it but I don’t buy the experience thing. The EPL is so different and no guarantee going to lower leagues will give him what is needed.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I don’t think he’ll get the job but I think he has done an impressive job so far. It was about the most impossible scenario to come in but there are things he has done very well. Talks well to the media, clearly is saying the right things to the players at half time, has got us playing progressive football (without any real training sessions). He gets the club, knows the players need positivity and not being berated and I’m sure he is more than aware of all of our issues. He’s not been perfect (he brought Lucas on) but given the hand he’s been dealt I’m impressed.