Tottenham Takeover Talk

[chrisd2k]

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Never not funny

 

[ziggy]

Maybe ENIC and QSI are doing a club swap...

It's like Wife Swap but Daniel gets to fuck someone else's club instead

Brilliant

 

[arunspurs]

Just been checking out a few of the THFC directors linkedins and got to Jonathan Turner. Probably nothing but it seems via his LinkedIn in he has under his interests a person called Aaref Hilary who works at Bain Capital. Remember them???? Probably coincidental. But still.

I stumbled on Josh Levy linkedin page a day back. I was surprised he is a CEO of Ultimate Finance , UK based SME finance firm...he is managing a loan book of over 300m & growing rapid. He is 28 !

Interestingly, company is backed by old lewis...so once again club or not, 2 families do go hand in hand.
I thought Josh will take over Daniel at the club in some capacity. But not sure now, given he already seems to have his hands full

 

[arunspurs]

I disagree that it is not clear what a "decisive influence" is. The second sentence in the UEFA rule you have quoted is merely an explanation of the first.

According to the OED, "decisive" means "that decides an issue; conclusive". That means, and can only mean, that the owner of one club cannot make the decisions about the second club. It can have an influence on the decisions of the second club, and that influence would obviously increase according to how much of the second club it owns, but it can only have a decisive influence over the second club when it owns a majority of the voting shares: a controlling interest.

I accept this does not take into account behind the scenes surreptitious "jiggery-pokery", but that, by its very nature would be very difficult to police.

That said, I for one am grateful for your investigations. The information is very helpful in understanding what limits QSI would be working under.

My point is, simply that its open to interpretation & too many loopholes.
Other thing is, inspite of PL having tightest ownership guidelines, QSI could actually have 49% stake instead of previously thought 20 or 30%. If QSI only going to buy 25%, they wont go through any fit & proper test protocols...but in future , there is space for them to go up to 49% provided they then complete the FPPP test

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

My point is, simply that its open to interpretation & too many loopholes.
Other thing is, inspite of PL having tightest ownership guidelines, QSI could actually have 49% stake instead of previously thought 20 or 30%. If QSI only going to buy 25%, they wont go through any fit & proper test protocols...but in future , there is space for them to go up to 49% provided they then complete the FPPP test

As I stated previously, I don't agree that it's open to interpretation, so we'll have to agree to differ on that.

I personally doubt that QSI are likely to fail any FPPP test unless the criteria are changed, since the owners of Newcastle, Man City, Chelsea under Abramovitch had few problems. The same might be said for Kroenke, Usmanov, the Glazers, Moshiri etc.

I get the impression that you don't want involvement from QSI in Spurs, otherwise you wouldn't be presenting different higher levels of ownership as a problem, which is fair enough.

We can all have our views on that.

 

[DenverSpur]

So to recap:

There’s something happening here
But what it is ain’t exactly clear

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There’s battle lines being drawn
And nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong

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It’s time we stopped
Hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down

Showing your age there.

 

[DenverSpur]

Latest Deloitte figures might encourage a takeover, next years figures will be even better with Champions League this season .

Deloitte Football Money League 2024

The 27th edition of the Deloitte Football Money League profiles the highest revenue generating clubs in world football over the 2022/23 season.

www2.deloitte.com

PS I should think in next years Deloitte report Spurs will overtake Chelsea , at the moment Spurs have higher commercial revenue and higher matchday revenue but were behind Chelsea on broadcast revenue which was probably due to us not having CL last season. So will that make Spurs higher in value compared to whatever the figure Chelsea made when sold?

Interesting numbers. Our match day income is only 1 million less than ManU and far ahead of the rest.while our commercial income has increased there is still huge scope for improvement there. This is the reason I don’t necessarily believe we need out side investment in order to compete in the transfer market.

 

[citizenG100]

Since it seems obvious that we are in some kind of discussions with QSI the question is, what exactly are we discussing? It seems to me that there are four possibilities:

(1) Only a minority stake from QSI with no intention to ever convert it into a full takeover;
(2) Only a minority stake but with it left open ended as to whether a full takeover might happen at a later date;
(3) An initial minority stake but with clear intention to complete a full takeover sometime later; or
(4) A full takeover right now, presumably combined with a concurrent relinquishing of majority ownership of PSG

I guess we'll find out sometime which it is.

 

[Yiddo100]

Since it seems obvious that we are in some kind of discussions with QSI the question is, what exactly are we discussing? It seems to me that there are four possibilities:

(1) Only a minority stake from QSI with no intention to ever convert it into a full takeover;
(2) Only a minority stake but with it left open ended as to whether a full takeover might happen at a later date;
(3) An initial minority stake but with clear intention to complete a full takeover sometime later; or
(4) A full takeover right now, presumably combined with a concurrent relinquishing of majority ownership of PSG

I guess we'll find out sometime which it is.

Could be any of the first 3 but I think the last one is very doubtful.

 

[arunspurs]

As I stated previously, I don't agree that it's open to interpretation, so we'll have to agree to differ on that.

I personally doubt that QSI are likely to fail any FPPP test unless the criteria are changed, since the owners of Newcastle, Man City, Chelsea under Abramovitch had few problems. The same might be said for Kroenke, Usmanov, the Glazers, Moshiri etc.

I get the impression that you don't want involvement from QSI in Spurs, otherwise you wouldn't be presenting different higher levels of ownership as a problem, which is fair enough.

We can all have our views on that.

I am confused ,where I said or indicated I dont want QSI involvement ?

Who talked about QSI failing FPPP test ?

No idea what you are on about...?‍

I was only pointing out the rules doesn't restrict QSI to own just 25%, it can go up to 49% as per UEFA rules. And if they do increase it to 49%, they have to pass the FPPP test (for crossing 30%) with PL.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Worth noting who has rated this post 'Winner' ?

It was me guys, so you know it's concrete.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I'm not sure if this will happen or not, but if it does I want QSI to know we will take a Rafael Leao as part of the deal.

 

[goughie1966]

Last time I watched the news (which I don't do very often) it was on fire from Riots. It's a shithole.

Thankfully that will never happen in Tottenham

 

[wspur]

A win against Qatar's local rivals should speed things up

 

[GobbyJJ]

A win against Qatar's local rivals should speed things up

Shh

 

[carmeldevil]

Hurry up and fucking sell.

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

Hurry up and fucking sell.

Yep, I am done with this shit now. Sell OUR club NOW.

 

[wspur]

A win against Qatar's local rivals should speed things up

Sorry guys, I wrote this 10 seconds before City's first.

 

[Yiddo100]

Our only hope

 

[mrlilywhite]

As much as we'd like ENIC to sell up, the reality is they won't, and I doubt there will be anything that'll come from the QSI rumours anyway. I think it's safe to say we are heading back to the 90's lads