What the pundits & media are saying about us

[worcestersauce]

David Bentley and Jamie O'Hara mouthing off at what they see as problems at Tottenham these so called problems are figments of their imagination and do not exist and for me not real Tottenham men . Its people like Roberts / Mabbut / Chivers /Ardiles who when they speak about Tottenham it is not to talk about some problem that they have made up in their own mind . No the real Tottenham men talk facts but there opinions are always positive and not making up problems that do not exist .
You never hear Ex players of other clubs digging out there old club but we seem plagued with them .

You obviously don't remember the stuff Graham Roberts came out with when he'd left us, whatever he says now I resent him being listed with those other names.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

You obviously don't remember the stuff Graham Roberts came out with when he'd left us, whatever he says now I resent him being listed with those other names.

Roberts left us because he was up to his eye balls with gambling debts and needed a signing on fee to raise cash to pay this off. I suspect that if he was debt free, he'd have stayed longer.

 

[SugarRay]

David Bentley isn’t a Tottenham man. Laughable to think he’d be considered one.

 

[he is you know!]

Roberts left us because he was up to his eye balls with gambling debts and needed a signing on fee to raise cash to pay this off. I suspect that if he was debt free, he'd have stayed longer.

Interesting, hadn't heard that, he always says Pleat didn't fancy him and sold him.

 

[buckley]

Just watched BT football panel with several failed managers they all have one thing in common that is they know all the answers to on field problems . What gets me is their certainty that their opinions are the answer to onfield problems but the main thing is their certainty that their opinions are the right ones . The arrogance from these failed managers and ex players that did not have the bottle to go into management is astounding . Former successful managers seem not to go into punditry and I wish they did as I in all probability have some respect for their views . Not the opinions of these people that know the answers to all problems in football . If they know all the answers to all the problems they should take up management but oh they have been managers and failed dismally shallow arrogant tossers all.

 

[RickyVilla]

Just watched BT football panel with several failed managers they all have one thing in common that is they know all the answers to on field problems . What gets me is their certainty that their opinions are the answer to onfield problems but the main thing is their certainty that their opinions are the right ones . The arrogance from these failed managers and ex players that did not have the bottle to go into management is astounding . Former successful managers seem not to go into punditry and I wish they did as I in all probability have some respect for their views . Not the opinions of these people that know the answers to all problems in football . If they know all the answers to all the problems they should take up management but oh they have been managers and failed dismally shallow arrogant tossers all.

I think you take things way to personally. Don't let the twats grind ya down.

 

[double0]

Just watched BT football panel with several failed managers they all have one thing in common that is they know all the answers to on field problems . What gets me is their certainty that their opinions are the answer to onfield problems but the main thing is their certainty that their opinions are the right ones . The arrogance from these failed managers and ex players that did not have the bottle to go into management is astounding . Former successful managers seem not to go into punditry and I wish they did as I in all probability have some respect for their views . Not the opinions of these people that know the answers to all problems in football . If they know all the answers to all the problems they should take up management but oh they have been managers and failed dismally shallow arrogant tossers all.

In fairness to most pundits ex footballer they have been in the industry since childhood and lived the dream...people laugh at Merson for example but I funnily enough respect his opinion he has a story to tell.

We live in an age where everyone is right Internet warrior reporters if what other say is not in line with what people think... They are mugs.

 

[RickyVilla]

In fairness to most pundits ex footballer they have been in the industry since childhood and lived the dream...people laugh at Merson for example but I funnily enough respect his opinion he has a story to tell.

We live in an age where everyone is right Internet warrior reporters if what other say is not in line with what people think... They are mugs.

 

[worcestersauce]

Roberts left us because he was up to his eye balls with gambling debts and needed a signing on fee to raise cash to pay this off. I suspect that if he was debt free, he'd have stayed longer.

Even if that were true he didn't have to slag us off.

 

[RickyVilla]

Even if that were true he didn't have to slag us off.

Met him a few years ago. Quite an unpleasant fellow. Paul Allen on the other hand. What a geezer.

 

[Dov67]

Even if that were true he didn't have to slag us off.

wasn't it Pleat he slagged off rather the club. Pleat said something like "he's kicked a few down here and he'll kick a few up there". Roberts took great exception to that as I recall

 

[rossdapep]

Met him a few years ago. Quite an unpleasant fellow. Paul Allen on the other hand. What a geezer.

A few have said that and then there's last year when he started threatening a young lad on Twitter cause he dared slag off the club.

 

[Lilbaz]

A few have said that and then there's last year when he started threatening a young lad on Twitter cause he dared slag off the club.

Sherwood had a go at hoddle for how he treated sheringham.

You can't treat that as slagging the club off.

 

[buckley]

Well I am left amazed that any right thinking spurs fan has the time of day for the Pundit named Merson Astounding
A man that has been found or caught out talking made up rubbish and he like many do little or nil research.
The classic example was last year when Danny Mills said we would not finish in the top four because we draw too many games when at that time after 21 games we had drawn one game as I say no research and rarely original well thought out opinion .
In fact the best punditry I came across last year was a woman on the sky programme ( the debate ) she at times was pulling up her fellow pundits for their wrong facts . I meant to look up her name but forgot . I have not seen her since I wonder why well in fact I don't wonder why sky and the rest prefer sensational and provocative statements rather than factual .
Some one said I take these pundits too serious and should lighten up damn right take people serious who spread malicious gossip made up from there own mind . All I want is truthful punditry and if it hurts so be it but at least its the truth and not fantasy.

 

[shelfmonkey]

Just watched BT football panel with several failed managers they all have one thing in common that is they know all the answers to on field problems . What gets me is their certainty that their opinions are the answer to onfield problems but the main thing is their certainty that their opinions are the right ones . The arrogance from these failed managers and ex players that did not have the bottle to go into management is astounding . Former successful managers seem not to go into punditry and I wish they did as I in all probability have some respect for their views . Not the opinions of these people that know the answers to all problems in football . If they know all the answers to all the problems they should take up management but oh they have been managers and failed dismally shallow arrogant tossers all.

Not unbelievable Jeff!

 

[shelfmonkey]

In fairness to most pundits ex footballer they have been in the industry since childhood and lived the dream...people laugh at Merson for example but I funnily enough respect his opinion he has a story to tell.

We live in an age where everyone is right Internet warrior reporters if what other say is not in line with what people think... They are mugs.

Fair enough, but if you were starting your own business would you take the advice of a completely failed businessman or someone who'd never run a business?

 

[rez9000]

Well I am left amazed that any right thinking spurs fan has the time of day for the Pundit named Merson Astounding
A man that has been found or caught out talking made up rubbish and he like many do little or nil research.
The classic example was last year when Danny Mills said we would not finish in the top four because we draw too many games when at that time after 21 games we had drawn one game as I say no research and rarely original well thought out opinion .
In fact the best punditry I came across last year was a woman on the sky programme ( the debate ) she at times was pulling up her fellow pundits for their wrong facts . I meant to look up her name but forgot . I have not seen her since I wonder why well in fact I don't wonder why sky and the rest prefer sensational and provocative statements rather than factual .
Some one said I take these pundits too serious and should lighten up damn right take people serious who spread malicious gossip made up from there own mind . All I want is truthful punditry and if it hurts so be it but at least its the truth and not fantasy.

I get where you’re coming from, Buckley. We’d all love punditry that is fair and well-reasoned.

However, the thing to remember is that these pundits are, like the rest of us, human. Flawed, biased (even if they try not to be) and prone to making mistakes.

Taking your example, Merson: the fact is he played for our primary rival, and at a time where the game was not as ‘professional’ as it is today so players were far more inured in the tribal side of the game. That experience will colour his thinking, even if he tries to suppress it.

We all do that.

The next thing to bear in mind is that most, if not quite all, pundits are ex-footballers. Although they may well have experience to draw on, the majority are not great thinkers. Analysis requires brain power. If you have people whose primary talents and training aren’t intellectual it’s no surprise that they’re thinking isn’t particularly incisive. Just for the record, I’m not saying that brain is better than brawn or the other way around just that strength in one or the other lends itself better to different activities.

And then you have the media itself to consider: let’s imagine you have a pundit who is fair and balanced and sage in his analysis. It’s not very interesting, is it? The media will have a vested interest in using people who they think will cause discontent or strong opposition, because that’s entertaining.

And finally, you have to also remember that no opinion will be universally accepted, no matter how fair, reasoned and balanced it may be. Every opinion will have a dissenting voice opposed to it.

If you take all that into consideration, it might not make the situation pleasant or even acceptable, but it does make it understandable and so not really worth the emotional investment.

Personally, I just think ‘idiot’ and move onto the next.

 

[Japhet]

To be fair to the pundits, they will know a lot more about their own ex clubs than the other clubs they're expected to analyse. People on here could probably do a good job talking at length about Spurs, but how well would we do discussing how well Watford play the offside trap or whether Brighton would be better playing a back 3? They probably get most of their info from tabloid papers so it's bound to be 50/50 fact and bullshit. The neutral pundits frequently have no idea what they're talking about but it shouldn't come as much of a surprise.

 

[Shadydan]

Tifo podcast, well worth a listen

 

[E17yid]

To be fair to the pundits, they will know a lot more about their own ex clubs than the other clubs they're expected to analyse. People on here could probably do a good job talking at length about Spurs, but how well would we do discussing how well Watford play the offside trap or whether Brighton would be better playing a back 3? They probably get most of their info from tabloid papers so it's bound to be 50/50 fact and bullshit. The neutral pundits frequently have no idea what they're talking about but it shouldn't come as much of a surprise.

I dunno, if Sky or whoever wanted to pay me a 6 figure salary I’d make it my business to be more informed about other clubs. After all, it’s just watching football innit.