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who owns the rights to 'England'

CornerPinDreamer

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hey all

It's actually a serious question. Given the commercial value of the 'England' team & brand, shouldn;t there be more scrutiny of the people who are using and organising the team around the brand.

I'm actually wondering who does the awarding. It seems to me that the people who elect the FA officials are the owners of England. If that's teh case then we are saying the club owners also own England??? How is that possible?

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CornerPinDreamer

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it doesn;t seem that way. I've been digging into this and it seems 'England' football is not connected to the people in any meaningful way, other than to take our money.
 

spud

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hey all

It's actually a serious question. Given the commercial value of the 'England' team & brand, shouldn;t there be more scrutiny of the people who are using and organising the team around the brand.
Why? What does it matter?

Your question assumes that there is some intrinsic value of the 'brand' of England, but that 'value' will be subjective, with rabid nationalists at one extreme and antipathetic foreign nationals at the other. Any use of the brand - presumably appealing to the former of those groups - will be purely to exploit the commercial opportunities to the maximum effect, so what does it matter who is doing it?
 

CornerPinDreamer

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fair point. But I;d also suggest that the setup of the football team, funding and development may be directed to serve the interests of the people who own the brand, rather than the actual people who constitute 'England football'.

I'd consider myself in that latter group, 'wednesday evening 5 a side' entitlement and all that.. :)
 

Misfit

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Well aside from the usual faces in troughs behaviour that runs rampant through all institutions, especially in sports, the FA does use funds, in part anyway, generated by Ingerlund to support "grass roots" football.

The efficiency with which they do so is of course something to be pondered.
 

karennina

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They had about £200 million public funds for Wembley. But as far as I can tell any English person who isn't an executive of a member football club, or in the FA hierachy, has no say over what it does. Yet they do 'own' the rights to England matches.
 

CornerPinDreamer

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They had about £200 million public funds for Wembley. But as far as I can tell any English person who isn't an executive of a member football club, or in the FA hierachy, has no say over what it does. Yet they do 'own' the rights to England matches.


..and the member club execs appoint the FA hierarchy?
 

DFF

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The FA is a non-profit that owns all rights relating to England Football. Nobody really "owns" a non-profit and there are no shareholders (i.e. they can't extract money from it), if that's what you're getting at.
 

CornerPinDreamer

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tbh I'm not sure what i'm getting at.

It just feels weird, the whole management / exec / financial setup looks like a neoptistic? circular arrangement to capture ownership / revenue and all spending / decision making power around 'England Football'.

But isn;t 'England Football' us, all of us (people living here). The money and support comes from us, the name belongs to the country (not sure on this), so why don't we have a say?

so, tbh I'm not sure what i'm getting at. :)
 

michaelden

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Aug 13, 2004
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tbh I'm not sure what i'm getting at.

It just feels weird, the whole management / exec / financial setup looks like a neoptistic? circular arrangement to capture ownership / revenue and all spending / decision making power around 'England Football'.

But isn;t 'England Football' us, all of us (people living here). The money and support comes from us, the name belongs to the country (not sure on this), so why don't we have a say?

so, tbh I'm not sure what i'm getting at. :)

well you'd like to think so; they want you to continue to think so; but its more like a party for the boys who got in first
 
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