Realistic alternatives to Ramos?
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jimtheyid
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I'm sorry, i didn't realise everybody had to agree with you.:roll:
Just in case you were wondering, I don't necesarilly agree Ramos should go. But He's got to be running out of time.
Michey
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You don't......the idiots are those that always turns against our team when we're having a bad spell and wants a new manager etc.
But i'm fed up with changing managers and not giving them time....especially when there are so clear why we're playing bad and miss players like Keane and Berbatov.
Pull the 2 best players outta any team with no replacement and that team will struggle.
A multiple choice poll might have been better mate.
I'm not nescessarily saying we should change Ramos. But if we have to replace him, hypothetically speaking, Hiddink. Maybe Klinsmann or Van Basten. None of those 3 would come to us though. El Tel is a good possibility. Not sure how successful he'd be 2nd time around.
I'm not nescessarily saying we should change Ramos. But if we have to replace him, hypothetically speaking, Hiddink. Maybe Klinsmann or Van Basten. None of those 3 would come to us though. El Tel is a good possibility. Not sure how successful he'd be 2nd time around.
jimtheyid
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We have won five games in the whole of 2008. We play directionless, spineless and insipid football. We did this with Keane and Berbatov at the end of last season. Im fast losing my patience with Ramos.
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To be fair then he should have been badgering Levy from the start of the window to get the replacements. When Hutton and Woodgate came in people were happy to accept that Ramos was having an influence on the transfers but now it's going tits up it's back to being Comolli's fault.
Don't get me wrong I don't think we should be getting rid of Ramos yet even if his Premiership record is just above Paul Jewell's at Derby. But I also don't think we can just absolve him from the transfer stuff when we've been praising him for it previously.
The facts are that Ramos so far has not been good enough...not even close in fact. I think he deserves time to show that he can improve but considering he's one of the highest paid managers in the world I think he will have even less time than most.
General Levy
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1: Hiddink
2: Suicide.
2: Suicide.
Nonsense, you could have jimmy greaves and gary lineker upfront(in their hay days) and we'd still be piss. We don't offer anything as a team. Even without berbs and keane, we may lack the fire power we posessed but we still have a team that should be functioning 100 times more efficient than it currently is.
Lets wake up its bad and it's not just started this season. Ramos's record in the premier league is quite poor. Should he be sacked? Not right now but when is enough, enough? It's a sad time when you start looking at the fixture list to see when teams like Hull City and Stoke are comming to WHL so we can get some points, well at this moment in time i doubt we would, do you?
VegasII
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I have no idea what they'd do if they offed JR as who's out there that we need? I guess Gus would be left in charge, but they'd probably have to bring in someone alongside or a mentor or some kind. El Tel perhaps until the season ends. Or someone Gus knows.
Sounds messy & I really hope JR sorts it out, but I've got a bad feeling he won't.
Sounds messy & I really hope JR sorts it out, but I've got a bad feeling he won't.
SpurSince57
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I take it you haven't seen Bayern this season.
Succint and correct. Hiddink has proved he can turn ordinary players into a winning team.
I'm still willing to give Juande more time, but he is surely trying my patience....
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The next four games is it for me:
Wisla Away
Hull Home
Stoke Away
Bolton Home
In normal terms thats 4 wins. If we struggle with our play against these teams in the premiership then I am worried.
I am really scared ahead of the Wisla game, I have a bad bad feeling.
But I have hope that Ramos can pick it up against before-season relegation candidates.
Wisla Away
Hull Home
Stoke Away
Bolton Home
In normal terms thats 4 wins. If we struggle with our play against these teams in the premiership then I am worried.
I am really scared ahead of the Wisla game, I have a bad bad feeling.
But I have hope that Ramos can pick it up against before-season relegation candidates.
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Time, you want to give the man how has a record in the league that is worse that Pleats last stint as manager time? I am all for giving the manager a chance but if we leave it too long there maybe no way back.
We all knew we would miss Keane and Berbatov so why didn't we get players that could at least in part replace them?
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Incidentally I suspect we'd need the Asian billionaires to come in or a hefty lottery win before we even considered sacking Ramos as I think he's on some ludicrous wage and not a year into his contract yet.
I suppose we could sell Jenas to fund it though. In fact yes we should definitely do that :grin:
I suppose we could sell Jenas to fund it though. In fact yes we should definitely do that :grin:
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Sell him to Newcastle or West Ham:grin:
General Levy
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Jenas.
The bloke has everything (footballing wise) apart from a brain. I can see why they made him captain, so he could pick up his game and run the show. Unfortunately he hasn't 'risen' up for anything and he is the worst captain ever.
Woodgate for captain please.
The bloke has everything (footballing wise) apart from a brain. I can see why they made him captain, so he could pick up his game and run the show. Unfortunately he hasn't 'risen' up for anything and he is the worst captain ever.
Woodgate for captain please.
joey55
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The coach is not the issue. Obvioulsy he is a problem, but if he goes then Comolli goes. One thing we have to learn from Comolli/Jol, is that the D of F has to appoint his own man. So we can't be looking at alternative's to Ramos, until the new D of F is in place or an alternative system is put in place.
yiddobrett
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Gus would be my first choice. Sounds crazy, but he's on the players' level and can can really attract any of the big name managers on that list?
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