Luca Modric is Man Utd's number 1 target :-(

InOffMeLeftShin said:

Good. He should be maybe not fed up but driven to try and improve to be able to beat them next time. The if you can't beat them join them attitude is rife in football these days. Players join a club play pretty well individually and then decide that they deserve better because they lose to better teams. It is basically searching for an easier job with a higher reward (in terms of money and trophies). It doesn't always work out personally though, just ask Berba.

The great situation we have now is that right now we can't seem to beat them but the players are looking around at each other in to coin Defoe's phrase they are 'in awe' of the players they are working with. You think that those players might just realise that they are onto a good thing and knuckle down work harder and try to get better and grow with the obvious huge potential we have? You have to hope that players like Modric, Lennon and Bale realise that maybe the best way to get to where they want to be isn't to join them but to push themselves harder to beat them. That way they have a huge opportunity to not only win a few trophies and get a nice bit of cash at the same time, but become part of something truely great, part of a club's folklore, a piece of a club's history. Maybe just maybe they can look around at each other and see that with a lot of hard work they can really achieve it all with us.

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DC_Boy said:

thing is - is berbs glad he went to utd?

he's got a prem medal to add to his collection he wouldn't have got at spurs

he's played in a team that reached a champs lge final - ditto

he's won another lge cup medal - may have got that one with us - agreed

so I'm not sure what Berbs would say

and he may well add another title medal to his collection very shortly - while chelsea are favs it's not impossible pool getting a point or 3 at anfield and scuppering their title hopes

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DC_Boy said:

thing is - is berbs glad he went to utd?

he's got a prem medal to add to his collection he wouldn't have got at spurs

he's played in a team that reached a champs lge final - ditto

he's won another lge cup medal - may have got that one with us - agreed

so I'm not sure what Berbs would say

and he may well add another title medal to his collection very shortly - while chelsea are favs it's not impossible pool getting a point or 3 at anfield and scuppering their title hopes

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InOffMeLeftShin said:

You might be right DC, you probably are. he definitely wouldn't have won the title with us in the last 2 seasons. But if he had stayed how close to glory do you think he could have got with us?

The problem for Berbatov is as I said in the previous response, he did well for us then decided to move to somewhere that he could win. Problem is that he is almost a fringe player there and in the grand scheme of things in 10 years when United look back on this era he isn't going to even be in a conversation. So what becomes of him after his career is over? He isn't going to be paraded around WHL to rapturous applause at half time as iconic players of the past have, he isn't going to at United either or likely anywhere else. He'll end up feeding his squirrels and will become just another player who played a part in a winning machine with about as much recognition as Poborsky or Kleberson.

Yes he has moved to United and won some trophies and will be forgotten. The likes of Modric, Bale, Lennon and all the current group we have now see the talent we have day in, day out. They might just think they can win things and become icons. In the grand scheme of English football do you think players that are involved in a team that wins a title for the first time in generations is going to be remembered more than a bit part in a team that has won much in recent times? I do.

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stemark44 said:

I agree with everything you say but we live in an era that's all about getting rich now,don't wait til tomorrow,I want it all and I want it all now.
If I had the opportunity I would play for Spurs until I died but for guys from Bulgaria and Croatia,its about playing for the best now and getting the best chance at winning medals!

I have asked the same thing a number of times in the past about Carrick and Berbatov - will they be remembered with reverence at United in years to come? Definitely not!
Could they have been legends at Spurs forever? Probably

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alpha said:

What a load of bollocks!

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DC_Boy said:

fair comments

Carrick has won - what 3 titles and and a CL medal with manu?

i'm pretty sure he's glad he left - but maybe wrong of course

berbs - who knows - not me - maybe not himself

as for modric, we can only hope he thinks it's good to stay with us

I really can't see us winning the title anytime soon but it's good some on here are optimistic - let's hope luka is like that - if the players really believe and the crowd get behind them at the Lane then it becomes a little more possible

let's see how the crowd is today - this is the the stuff of title winners, beating a team like bolton,

let's see the crowd putting in a title-winning performance - not go comatose as often the lane does v mid/low table oppo - not get on the players' backs if the early goal doesn't come etc

for us to win the title it will require all sorts of mini-miracles, leaps of faith, levels of achievement on a weekly basis we're not used to at spurs

it'd be wonderful to see it happen -

I'm afraid ATM most outsiders looking in on such ambitions would see us like Caesar pushing past Cassandra - 'He is a dreamer. Let us leave him.'

but even Caesar made mistakes ....

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bomberH said:

A colleague just approached me and told me he spoke to Defoe last night (he's known him for years) and apparently when asked about Modric, Defoe said that Modric has told other squad members he wants to play for Utd, and that the squad didn't take too kindly to that.

The colleague I'm on about is 50 yrs old and a Spurs fanatic, and not a WUM as far as I'm aware. He definitely does know Defoe but whether Defoe was winding him up or not, who knows. I still don't think he'd leave for some reason, despite all that.

Oh well. Hopefully it's all shit, somehow.

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bomberH said:

A colleague just approached me and told me he spoke to Defoe last night (he's known him for years) and apparently when asked about Modric, Defoe said that Modric has told other squad members he wants to play for Utd, and that the squad didn't take too kindly to that.

The colleague I'm on about is 50 yrs old and a Spurs fanatic, and not a WUM as far as I'm aware. He definitely does know Defoe but whether Defoe was winding him up or not, who knows. I still don't think he'd leave for some reason, despite all that.

Oh well. Hopefully it's all shit, somehow.

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Bus-Conductor said:

Crazy. Surely Michael Dawson is ManU's number one target ?

That dimwit Ferguson obviously doesn't log on to SC.

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BringBack_leGin said:

You use a thread with no connection whatsoever to Michael Dawson as an opportunity to take a swipe at him?

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THOWIG said:

I'll reiterate my early statement. I like Modric, I rate Modric, but for me if you really want to get the absolute best out of the player we have to play him in a three man midfield.

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mill said:

yeah even though we've had a good season and hopefully we'll get 4th this year, next year we could be 5th again and we could be light years away from winning the league

Some people on here need to face reality, unfortunatley until we become a regular champs league team players will see us as a stepping stone to a bigger club, unproven players getting 1st team football at a decent team to earn a move, berbatov's a perfect example of this

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