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Harry , carried the can for Levy , will be appreciatd where he is next .

DEFchenkOE

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@Ryan you mentioned that in Jan Harry told Levy to get him Carroll, was there no plan B?? Wasn't it obvious after his first half season that it would take a ridiculous offer for Newcastle to sell?

Had Carroll not been watched in the Championship? Did we try to purchase him as a plan b in the summer when the fabiano deal fell through?? Also Fabiano and Caroll are completely different types of players so seems a bit odd that these two were who we went for.
 

Legend10

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£35 million for a striker who had only ever scored 7 top flight goals?

If in the unlikely event Levy vetoed that then good on him!
 

Mr Pink

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A lot people slating Pienaar tonight, I still think he'll be a decent squad player for us next seaoson - if Harry has learned his lessons in terms of using the squad more.

He looked rusty as hell, and got robbed a few times...but there were glimpses of some decent stuff I thought.
 

RichSpur58

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Can I just say, Critisism is probably constructive at this point but people need to be aware of facts.

During the Summer, we were dicked about by Luis Fabiano. This boy was going to sign. Harry met and lunched with the guy and his people. This deal was as good as done. Fabiano Fucked THFC over, for a new contract.

During January, Harry was clear from day one. GET ME ANDY CARROLL! Did it happen? and yet there were bids flying around on deadline day (pr stunt if you ask me) for anything from the spanish league that has scored a goal!

Yes Harry wanted Neville, Yes Harry wanted Parker! Yes Harry wanted Carroll!

No Levy didnt want Neville, No Levy didnt want Parker enough and BIG FAT NO did Levy want Carroll!

continue...

Fair play on Levy.

Why the feck would we neeed Phil neville and Scott Parker? ARe we short on midifelders?

Andy Carroll for 35m? No thanks.

Sick and tired of the dross HR is trying to buy. Zero knowledge of world football, unless its a player hes seen on MOTD
 

Legend10

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A lot people slating Pienaar tonight, I still think he'll be a decent squad player for us next seaoson - if Harry has learned his lessons in terms of using the squad more.

He looked rusty as hell, and got robbed a few times...but there were glimpses of some decent stuff I thought.


Absolutely, for £2 million he's a steal!
 

Bobbins

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I've been critical of Harry in the past but that team tonight tried everything it could but was just missing that something .

As anyone who has ever been a manager knows , you never really get the chance to manage . You just have to make the best of the cards you have been dealt , shifting sands and interfering superiors .

Professional football people will be able to see that Harry was seriously short changed by Levy and he will be hot property come the end of the season . We will be lucky to have him next season and personally I will be surprised if he doesn't walk in the Summer .

We can all point to matches we could have won but it is six transfer windows since Berbatov has left and the club has been unwilling to replace him .

We have truly spoiled the ship for a halfpenny worth of tar .

What is worse is knowing that you spend through the nose for your tickets but the funds will not be released to mend matters in the summer .

Not this utter shit again!

Really, really tired of your David Icke Lizard People Illuminate Levy Fake Moon Landing conspiracy crap now.

You hate Levy. You think he's trying to murder your children. You regularly get your facts wrong or simply make shit up.

We get it. Please stop repeating yourself, and go and hide in your loft with your foil hat on in case Levy sends his cloaked assassins to stop you revealing the terrifying truth.

Seriously, go and post on COYS. They hate Levy over there, you'll absolutely love it.
 

stemark44

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A lot people slating Pienaar tonight, I still think he'll be a decent squad player for us next seaoson - if Harry has learned his lessons in terms of using the squad more.

He looked rusty as hell, and got robbed a few times...but there were glimpses of some decent stuff I thought.

But that's precisely one of his biggest problems,we have a good squad but Harry couldn't spell rotation.
 

kishman

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That's my major(probably only) beef with Harry, he hasn't rotated the squad. Niko Krancjar has been the biggest victim.
 

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Because he has been run into the ground.

Back in January when Fulham kicked our fucking arses, Red said that one or two of our players were running on empty. He was talking about Modric and VDV.

VDV is always out of breath.

Modric is a player that never stops. Like Osvaldo Adiles.
 

marvel

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The problem is resting Modric is such a difficult call as so so much of our good play comes through him. We lose a game not starting Modric just imagine the crys of 'how the hell can we not start Modric'
 

FMA

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Can I just say, Critisism is probably constructive at this point but people need to be aware of facts.

During the Summer, we were dicked about by Luis Fabiano. This boy was going to sign. Harry met and lunched with the guy and his people. This deal was as good as done. Fabiano Fucked THFC over, for a new contract.

During January, Harry was clear from day one. GET ME ANDY CARROLL! Did it happen? and yet there were bids flying around on deadline day (pr stunt if you ask me) for anything from the spanish league that has scored a goal!

Yes Harry wanted Neville, Yes Harry wanted Parker! Yes Harry wanted Carroll!

No Levy didnt want Neville, No Levy didnt want Parker enough and BIG FAT NO did Levy want Carroll!

continue...

Personally, I'm glad Levy showed a degree of restraint with those three targets.

I do like the look of Carroll, although, he has as much chance as being the next Michael Bridges as he does Alan Shearer. £35+ million is a ridiculously exuberant fee for a player with questionable fitness issues and an off-the-field attitude that could see him do a stretch inside if he's not careful.

If memory serves correctly with Neville - we made an offer of £2 million which was labelled "derisory" by Moyes. Are we to extrapolate from that choice of word that Everton were after double if not triple that amount? Way over the odds for a 34 year old with no sell on value. It wouldn't have been an issue if he would have had the same effect on us as McAllister had when he joined Liverpool, but I doubt it somehow.

Sullivan and Gold made it quite clear that they would never sell Parker to us. To renege on that well publicised statement would have meant that they would have been persona non grata with the fans.

One thing to consider; had we been successful with Parker and Neville (I certainly wasn't against the former, by the way) then would we have seen the emergence of Sandro? Baring in mind he only got his chance due to injuries sustained by others.
 

jonathanhotspur

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The problem is resting Modric is such a difficult call as so so much of our good play comes through him. We lose a game not starting Modric just imagine the crys of 'how the hell can we not start Modric'

The lad never gets a break. Wouldn't happen at any other top club.
 
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