talk SPORT - Harry Redknapp discussing Luka Modric - Now 16:08

Azrael · Jun 19, 2011

Mr Pink said:
At least he's talkling about us showing some ambition in terms of new signings.

I think that Harry, for all his arrogance and "my shit don't stink" statements in the press, probably realises behind closed doors that the past two windows were a major fuck up and it's make or break time. He knows the fans won't listen to more "it's all wonderful" bullshit unless some statements are made through signings and player retentions and that we are going to do all we can to head back into the top four.

Azrael · Jun 19, 2011

michaelden said:
We hear more of harry than spurs. He should quit management and just do chatshows

He's not a chatshow wheeler & dealer. He's a fucking football manager.

Coyboy · Jun 19, 2011

Bus-Conductor said:
If you are referring to transfers then Levy has backed Redknapp to the tune of about 90m (Bassong, Kaboul, Keane, Defoe, Crouch, Palacios, VDV, Sandro, Pienaar, Kranjcar) in three years and recouped very little.

Are you suggesting that all of those purchases Levy made without consulting Redknapp ?

With players like Modric Levy proved he is more than happy to move early. It clearly is just not that simple.

Surely the idiots are those that don't grasp the realities of running a football club as an accountable business.

But history doesn't bare this out. And common sense should tell you this. We cannot stop players from going on strike (Berbatov). In the last 6 years Arsenal have probably been forced to part with more players than we have, are they more of a selling club than us ?

Look at what happened at Portsmouth. They backed Redknapp's judgement to destruction. They bought some fantastic players. James, Johnson, Distin, Campbell, Muntari, Diarra, Diop, Kranjcar, Yakubu, Kanu, Crouch, Defoe to name a few. 7 of those players have played for some of europes best clubs and won medals. What did Redknapp do with them. mid table.

Chairman start to realise that he's not a very good coach and that he relies entirely on buying results. Redknapp then goes on the offensive and makes it clear that it's the Chairman's fault for not backing him and any fans that criticise him are of course, idiots.

How about Suarez ? Who got that wrong ? Keane, Defoe ?

It would be nice if the manager pulled with the Chairman and the fans don't you think ? instead of making the Chairman's position difficult, and repeatedly calling the fans idiots. How about a little bit of humility and intelligence. How about when asked about the England job he said no I'm happy here ?

As we have seen, he's had a lot of money in three years, and we clearly wasted a chance to make CL football again, and Redknapp played a big part in that failure. Players he bought, players he didn't when he had the chance, teams selections and tactics. I can understand not wanting to take all the blame publicly but it is cowardly to point the finger at Van der Vaart, Bale, the chairman and the fans don't you think ?

Lots of bollocks about this but the main bit is the constant crap you spout about Pompey.

None of those players is fantastic. In fact, one of them (Defoe) you routinely criticise and ridicule and another (Muntari) I am not sure you rate highly at all. Perhaps the only ones that are good enough for a top four team are Crouch, Krancjar and Diarra- two of those have gone on to get us to to the top four or thereabouts, and the other one was at Pompey for half a season and then left.

Diop? Talk about scraping the barrel.

He over-achieved at Pompey, having got them up from nowhere and won them their first trophy since God knows when. Stop rewriting history and having it both ways to make an argument.

StartingPrice · Jun 19, 2011

VegasII said:
I was thinking more 'Bong-gooni Cum-a-hoe'

Or even 'Bong-gooni camel-toe'

Who knows:shrug:
With the PleatMeister the permutations are endless:wink:

michaelden said:
We hear more of harry than spurs. He should quit management and just do chatshows

And yet, when it is Mourinho his ability to take pressure off the team by being the centre of a media circus is seen as a mark of gneius - just saying:wink:

riversmonkey · Jun 19, 2011

This is traditionally the quiet fortnight, most players in Europe that are not involved in the U-21's, or the Gold Cup or Copa America are on holiday. Business is likely to be slow or non existent. The media are creating another storm to see them through the quiet spell.

hutchiniho · Jun 19, 2011

I still don't get why we couldn't get a top striker in with the prosect of CL football on the horizon which was always always cited as our signing ceiling previously. Yet now, without CL, we are expecting to land a world class 20+ striker/CF. We couldn't do it with CL how is it going to work without?

Azrael · Jun 19, 2011

hutchiniho said:
I still don't get why we couldn't get a top striker in with the prosect of CL football on the horizon which was always always cited as our signing ceiling previously. Yet now, without CL, we are expecting to land a world class 20+ stricker/CF. We couldn't do it with CL how is it going to work without?

Liverpool managed to sign to rated strikers without CL. :shrug:

hutchiniho · Jun 19, 2011

Azrael said:
Liverpool managed to sign to rated strikers without CL. :shrug:

So why couldn't we with? All in the past I know now. Things
Could be very different if we had though.

And I just Can't see Levy backing a £30 + outlay. Even if he hauls in a huge sum for Luka.

Plus, Realistically who can we sign that is likely to do the things we would
Like? Not to be doom and gloom, would just like to hear some genuinely Possibles.

klinsmannsbeetle · Jun 19, 2011

hutchiniho said:
So why couldn't we with? All in the past I know now. Things
Could be very different if we had though.

And I just Can't see Levy backing a £30 + outlay. Even if he hauls in a huge sum for Luka.

Plus, Realistically who can we sign that is likely to do the things we would
Like? Not to be doom and gloom, would just like to hear some genuinely Possibles.

Adebayor? Vucinic? I agree, there aren't that many sub-uber strikers to choose from realistically.

Nads · Jun 19, 2011

My only gripe with Redknapp, as much as I think he's doing a decent job with a very talented squad, is interviews like this. His turn of mood at the hint of criticism is hugely embarrassing and something I would expect from Gordon Strachan or Rafa Benitez. His mouth is bigger than the club and I'm not comfortable with that. Wenger, Ferguson and Dalglish use their intelligence to outwit journo's, Harry strokes their egos and avoids blame by any means necessary. Not once has he ever said "I could have done that differently." Privately I would hope he's learning but obvious mistakes which become ongoing issues for weeks suggest he's too stubborn to. There's no pressure on the players at the moment to perform because in excusing himself he's doing the same for them - we dropped a shit load of points to inferior teams.

Like I said, he's doing a decent job, but more of these interviews and I know I will run out of patience with him.

woodward · Jun 19, 2011

Nads said:
My only gripe with Redknapp, as much as I think he's doing a decent job with a very talented squad, is interviews like this. His turn of mood at the hint of criticism is hugely embarrassing and something I would expect from Gordon Strachan or Rafa Benitez. His mouth is bigger than the club and I'm not comfortable with that. Wenger, Ferguson and Dalglish use their intelligence to outwit journo's, Harry strokes their egos and avoids blame by any means necessary. Not once has he ever said "I could have done that differently." Privately I would hope he's learning but obvious mistakes which become ongoing issues for weeks suggest he's too stubborn to. There's no pressure on the players at the moment to perform because in excusing himself he's doing the same for them - we dropped a shit load of points to inferior teams.

Like I said, he's doing a decent job, but more of these interviews and I know I will run out of patience with him.

I bet he is quaking in his boots.

The Lilywhites · Jun 19, 2011

cos liverpool pay higher wages, it seems we are known low payers so therefore decent players don't come. We need to sort that out somewhat. Get rid of our deadwood and up wages.

jonathanhotspur · Jun 19, 2011

Nads said:
. There's no pressure on the players at the moment to perform because in excusing himself he's doing the same for them.

There really could be something in this. It's been said about Wenger that perhaps he fosters a culture of complacency at Le Shite by behaving like a victim so much of the time.

rich75 · Jun 19, 2011

Nads said:
My only gripe with Redknapp, as much as I think he's doing a decent job with a very talented squad, is interviews like this. His turn of mood at the hint of criticism is hugely embarrassing and something I would expect from Gordon Strachan or Rafa Benitez. His mouth is bigger than the club and I'm not comfortable with that. Wenger, Ferguson and Dalglish use their intelligence to outwit journo's, Harry strokes their egos and avoids blame by any means necessary. Not once has he ever said "I could have done that differently." Privately I would hope he's learning but obvious mistakes which become ongoing issues for weeks suggest he's too stubborn to. There's no pressure on the players at the moment to perform because in excusing himself he's doing the same for them - we dropped a shit load of points to inferior teams.

Like I said, he's doing a decent job, but more of these interviews and I know I will run out of patience with him.

I'm not sure which Wenger , Ferguson or Dalglish you're talking about but I'm fairly certain it's not the football managers if you reckon they ever say this

"I could have done that differently."

woodward · Jun 19, 2011

Mullers said:
I have heard this all before, Modric will probably be sold on deadline day, that will give Redknapp the excuse he needs to take the England job. He will fall flat on his face if he is England manager, I am sure about that. The guy believes his own hype too much.

His own hype is that we are gaining the most points per game since the double season. He may not be round, cuddly and full of shite like Jol but he has delivered where it matters most, in the results department.

Bus-Conductor · Jun 19, 2011

Coyboy said:
Lots of bollocks about this but the main bit is the constant crap you spout about Pompey.

None of those players is fantastic. In fact, one of them (Defoe) you routinely criticise and ridicule and another (Muntari) I am not sure you rate highly at all. Perhaps the only ones that are good enough for a top four team are Crouch, Krancjar and Diarra- two of those have gone on to get us to to the top four or thereabouts, and the other one was at Pompey for half a season and then left.

Diop? Talk about scraping the barrel.

He over-achieved at Pompey, having got them up from nowhere and won them their first trophy since God knows when. Stop rewriting history and having it both ways to make an argument.

Collectively that squad - and I repeatedly said this at the time - way before he became our manager - was very good and would have swapped a good few of them for ours at the time. Kanu, Diarra, Yakubu, Kranjcar, Mendes, Johnson, Diop, Baros, Campbell, Distin are all players I would have gladly seen as upgrades on some of the players we had at time.

The best league position he achieved with the best squad he had was eighth. behind teams like Everton, Villa & Blackburn who did not have any where near as many players that I would have wanted.

If he over achieved by winning the FA Cup which included very lucky wins against lower league teams, Ipswich, Plymouth, Preston, West Brom, Cardiff - as well as the flukiest win against ManU I've ever seen., then what Ramos achieved that season was colossal.

Why did that Portsmouth side only finish 8th ? Anyone who watched that team play will know why. They were unimaginatively coached. Very good players painting by numbers. Sound familiar ?

In 1998-99 Redknapp had a west ham squad that contained Sinclair, Di Caneo, Foe, Ferdinand, Wright, Lampard, Cole, Berkovich to name a few. Why was that team not challenging for a title ? A year later Kanoute, Carrick, Stimac and Defoe were added, that team came 9th. With many of those players still there the next season they came 15th.

You really think he's an over achiever ? He has a career of squandering the squads at his disposal with his inability to get the best out of players. To improve them, to mould them into a cohesive footballing unit. His coaching, as players have commented (and not disgruntled players having a pop) is virtually non existent. This is why his teams under-achieve. And when it goes tits up he is the first in the media with the blame for every other ****.

Nads · Jun 19, 2011

rich75 said:
I'm not sure which Wenger , Ferguson or Dalglish you're talking about but I'm fairly certain it's not the football managers if you reckon they ever say this

"I could have done that differently."

Fair point. That's probably expecting a bit much, but I would like him to at least acknowledge the fact we were stronger than Man City last season. Their money didn't 100% translate to their squad and we dropped points he brushed off as "one of them days" too often.

ryantegan · Jun 19, 2011

Bus-Conductor said:
Collectively that squad - and I repeatedly said this at the time - way before he became our manager - was very good and would have swapped a good few of them for ours at the time. Kanu, Diarra, Yakubu, Kranjcar, Mendes, Johnson, Diop, Baros, Campbell, Distin are all players I would have gladly seen as upgrades on some of the players we had at time.

The best league position he achieved with the best squad he had was eighth. behind teams like Everton, Villa & Blackburn who did not have any where near as many players that I would have wanted.

If he over achieved by winning the FA Cup which included very lucky wins against lower league teams, Ipswich, Plymouth, Preston, West Brom, Cardiff - as well as the flukiest win against ManU I've ever seen., then what Ramos achieved that season was colossal.

Why did that Portsmouth side only finish 8th ? Anyone who watched that team play will know why. They were unimaginatively coached. Very good players painting by numbers. Sound familiar ?

In 1998-99 Redknapp had a west ham squad that contained Sinclair, Di Caneo, Foe, Ferdinand, Wright, Lampard, Cole, Berkovich to name a few. Why was that team not challenging for a title ? A year later Kanoute, Carrick, Stimac and Defoe were added, that team came 9th. With many of those players still there the next season they came 15th.

You really think he's an over achiever ? He has a career of squandering the squads at his disposal with his inability to get the best out of players. To improve them, to mould them into a cohesive footballing unit. His coaching, as players have commented (and not disgruntled players having a pop) is virtually non existent. This is why his teams under-achieve. And when it goes tits up he is the first in the media with the blame for every other ****.

I stopped reading there

DFF · Jun 19, 2011

Bus-Conductor said:
And when it goes tits up he is the first in the media with the blame for every other ****.

This and what Nads said is true. Fair enough, managers don't usually stick their own necks out, but they usually have the good sense to keep their heads below the parapet. Harry on the other hand comes out blasting all and sundry. Man City spend loads, best season we've ever had, good as it gets for little ol' Tottenham, go and support another team, ad infinitum. The man's mouth cannot be stopped.

Thanks for telling us where you stopped reading ryan (basically any dissenting opinion). No one cares...

Spurs_Bear · Jun 19, 2011

Bus-Conductor said:
Collectively that squad - and I repeatedly said this at the time - way before he became our manager - was very good and would have swapped a good few of them for ours at the time. Kanu, Diarra, Yakubu, Kranjcar, Mendes, Johnson, Diop, Baros, Campbell, Distin are all players I would have gladly seen as upgrades on some of the players we had at time.

The best league position he achieved with the best squad he had was eighth. behind teams like Everton, Villa & Blackburn who did not have any where near as many players that I would have wanted.

If he over achieved by winning the FA Cup which included very lucky wins against lower league teams, Ipswich, Plymouth, Preston, West Brom, Cardiff - as well as the flukiest win against ManU I've ever seen., then what Ramos achieved that season was colossal.

Why did that Portsmouth side only finish 8th ? Anyone who watched that team play will know why. They were unimaginatively coached. Very good players painting by numbers. Sound familiar ?

In 1998-99 Redknapp had a west ham squad that contained Sinclair, Di Caneo, Foe, Ferdinand, Wright, Lampard, Cole, Berkovich to name a few. Why was that team not challenging for a title ? A year later Kanoute, Carrick, Stimac and Defoe were added, that team came 9th. With many of those players still there the next season they came 15th.

You really think he's an over achiever ? He has a career of squandering the squads at his disposal with his inability to get the best out of players. To improve them, to mould them into a cohesive footballing unit. His coaching, as players have commented (and not disgruntled players having a pop) is virtually non existent. This is why his teams under-achieve. And when it goes tits up he is the first in the media with the blame for every other ****.

:lol:

That is the biggest pile of shite regarding re-writing history that you could have ever written.

I'm pretty sure what you meant to say was...."busy ****".

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