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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 27 July 2011

Conando

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It's now obvious to me that the club's transfer policy is a shambles.... January was proof of that, although the initial worries began last summer.

One of the role of the club's management (HR & DL) is to identify the players that we need - and when that shortlist is compiled, then the buying & selling activities of the club should be focused on those players (and those players ONLY)....

However,it increasingly looks like management have no clear view on the players we need - instead, there's just a long list of 'maybes' and 'might like to haves' and 'only if the price is right'.... that means there's no clear focus on targeting specific individuals and it's more of a hit-and-hope, wait-and-see approach (similar to what happened with VdV last summer & the failed Charlie Adam bid in January).

Compare that to Man. Utd. They clearly know who they want and they make early moves to land their targets. They don't second guess themselves or become paralysed by considering endless alternatives. Identify who you want (bearing in mind that one of the criteria will be the likely transfer fee & the player's wage demands - so you don't go wasting time & effort on deals that will never be successful) and go get them....

Redknapp & Levy are too interested in the art of the deal at the expense of the successful addition of the right sort of player....

What a load of tosh, you haven't seen any lists, you have no idea how we conduct ourselves in the market, the main issue could be the target themselves, they may want to wait for other offers, it could be the selling club, looking for a higher offer.

To compare us to Man U is ridiculous, the are one of the largest draws in the game, I don't think many players would reject a chance to play there. We are not at that level, players may think they can do better than us!
 

nickchrissi

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Well here's a potential list:
Gago, Benzema, Huguain, Alonso, Diarra, Granero, Garay...

Mourinho is really interested in Neymar but may have to wait till January.
I wouldn't be surprised if he tries Tevez for RM.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kaka leaves.

We pulled off VDV late last season, so i'm just watching.

Garay plays for Benfica now :roll:
 

bubble07

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Why are we wasting time with Augero? Is Levy goign to give him £140k per week? NO so why bother

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rebrab

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Why are we wasting time with Augero? Is Levy goign to give him £140k per week? NO so why bother

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I did a massive post at the start of the window about how "time" isn't an issue, bar the time it takes the opposing club to make a decision, but it would appear it has been totally ignored. It would physically take Levy 5 minutes to make a bid for Aguero, the only issue is that it would take a while for them to reply or negotiate.
 

spurslenny

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Looks like a side on view of my bus when I slam the brakes on :grin:
 

Spursh

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Why are we wasting time with Augero? Is Levy goign to give him £140k per week? NO so why bother

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talkshowhost86

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Cause we're not going to outbid Citeh.

Do you know when we inquired and when City did?

Even so how long do you really think it took for us to find out Aguero wasn't interested? Or do you think Levy was sitting there saying 'hold absolutely everything else until I've heard about Aguero'?
 

Mr Pink

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Just get Vucinic, Affelay and Diarra (or if Wilson is staying no bother)...just the first two.

25 million for Vucinic and Affelay, if they both want to come, would be fantastic...Jesus Ohara, GDS, Hutton and Keane could fund well over half that.

Not to mention Crouch, Jenas or whoever is likely to go on top of that.

I would be delighted with just Vucinic and Afellay truth be told.
 

SlunkSoma

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Why are we wasting time with Augero? Is Levy goign to give him £140k per week? NO so why bother

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Understand your frustration, but it can't hurt throwing our hat in the ring for these players. I'm sure we can offer an attractive package. I doubt we've only just given up on him, Levy put the appropriate time in, when it was clear the player didn't want to come he moved on.

Vucinic is the only plausible striker option, and even that is seemingly stalling due to shenaigans from third parties.
 

ohwhenthespurs

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Why are we wasting time with Augero? Is Levy goign to give him £140k per week? NO so why bother

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Good PR exercise like on the last evening of the January window. Keeps us all buying into the illusion that we're going toe to toe with Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City and invesing our hard-earned in the brand, renewing season tickets, buying the shirts etc.
It's like a really attractive girl who keeps giving you a wink and a flash of thigh, then you end up going home and having chips and cheese and a game of five against one while watching Sky Sports News. Yet you go back every Saturday night (or January and summer window) and repeat the same bullshit.
 

RichSpur58

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Just get Vucinic, Affelay and Diarra (or if Wilson is staying no bother)...just the first two.

25 million for Vucinic and Affelay, if they both want to come, would be fantastic...Jesus Ohara, GDS, Hutton and Keane could fund well over half that.

Not to mention Crouch, Jenas or whoever is likely to go on top of that.

I would be delighted with just Vucinic and Afellay truth be told.

Exactly. We are such tight arses.
 

Paolo10

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Apr 6, 2004
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Well he turned us down once already, City were obviously in for him and there's no way we'd compete with their wages and finances and the fact they have CL football to offer.

If it was a player we were after, it seems a real waste of time. Unrealistic from the get-go.
 

Makkaveli101

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Apr 11, 2004
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I thought are reputation in Europe had risen significantly due to our exploits against the Milan sides, strolling our group, and getting through to the last Eight.

Did every player (and target) in Europe not watch the Champion's League last season?

I know we didn't qualify this year. But surely an outsider would see this an exciting, up and coming group of players?

Or dare I say it, even see us as a stepping stone club? I mean if we sign two world class players who truly are thinking a move to Man USA could become of it, two years down the line - but then with those added players end up challenging for the title, or even win it - in the next couple of years - those players will want to stay.

It's almost like last season's Champions League didn't happen, we made big press in Italy, and in this country - also in Spain we were starting to be respected as a real up and coming English side (I dont know if the Madrid game hurt that).
 
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