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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 3 August 2011

BringBack_leGin

BringBack_leGin

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Shanks is one poster who isn't going to fuck us about. SC furniture that man is. 12 foot of SC legend.

Oh, and even if the info doesn't come to fruition, cheers for it :-D I would slit the throats of 200 goats in sacrifice to the Powerpuff Girls if it meant that we signed Llorrente.
 
dirtyh

dirtyh

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thank you shanks. if this is true then all the heartache of this window so far has been worth it. llorente would tear up the epl. i still reckon we're getting rossi too at the end of the window. with those 2 up front we'd be going for the title.
 
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Flightrisker said:
Crouch
Club record - 143 goals in 456 appearances = A goal every 3.1 games
International - 22 goals in 44 appearances = A goal every 1.9 games

Llorente
Club record - 99 goals in 289 appearances = A goal every 2.9 games
International - 7 goals in 13 appearances = A goal every 1.85 games


Not very different in terms of conversion rates. Crouch 4 years older. Not sure of Llorente's assists but doubt it's much higher than Crouch's.
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Statistics can be very misleading.

For example, people have said we crave a target man to hold the ball up.

Llorente is such a player but if Dawson punted it to Llorente, who held it up and then laid it off the VDV who plays in Bale to score, Llorente would not be creditted with the assist but he would have been instrumental in the goal.
 
theShiznit

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not impressed with Samba the man with the turning circle wider than the moon (around the earth :wink:) and whose legs were built for someone much smaller.

But i'll be there to impress llorente on Sat (i'm thinking of breakng out the helicopter dick...)

Also Crouch to anywhere is good news IMO.

also in one of friendlies you can do what you want, as long as pre agreed.

FIFA have no say. maybe as Arsenal's game was a "tournament" it was different.
 
Mr Pink

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What sort of fee are we talking about for Llorente? 25-30 ish....?

Hopefully we'll get 7-9 million for Crouchy or so, and with Keane, Hutton, GDS and Palacios likely to follow we could cover it and have a little left over to put towards Diarra :grin:
 
BringBack_leGin

BringBack_leGin

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Flightrisker said:
Crouch
Club record - 143 goals in 456 appearances = A goal every 3.1 games
International - 22 goals in 44 appearances = A goal every 1.9 games

Llorente
Club record - 99 goals in 289 appearances = A goal every 2.9 games
International - 7 goals in 13 appearances = A goal every 1.85 games


Not very different in terms of conversion rates. Crouch 4 years older. Not sure of Llorente's assists but doubt it's much higher than Crouch's.
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You're looking at entire career stats. That means you're using stats from very young career during breakthrough seasons. Look at recent history and you realise how awesome Llorente has been:

Season Apps Goals
2007–08 35 11
2008–09 34 14
2009–10 37 14
2010–11 38 18
 
Hoddle_Ledge

Hoddle_Ledge

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Flightrisker said:
Crouch
Club record - 143 goals in 456 appearances = A goal every 3.1 games
International - 22 goals in 44 appearances = A goal every 1.9 games

Llorente
Club record - 99 goals in 289 appearances = A goal every 2.9 games
International - 7 goals in 13 appearances = A goal every 1.85 games


Not very different in terms of conversion rates. Crouch 4 years older. Not sure of Llorente's assists but doubt it's much higher than Crouch's.
Click to expand...

150px-Fernando_Llorente_contra_el_H%C3%A9rcules_en_el_estadio_Jos%C3%A9_Rico_P%C3%A9rez.jpg
VS
200px-Peter_Crouch.JPG
 
Paolo10

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Flightrisker said:
Crouch
Club record - 143 goals in 456 appearances = A goal every 3.1 games
International - 22 goals in 44 appearances = A goal every 1.9 games

Llorente
Club record - 99 goals in 289 appearances = A goal every 2.9 games
International - 7 goals in 13 appearances = A goal every 1.85 games


Not very different in terms of conversion rates. Crouch 4 years older. Not sure of Llorente's assists but doubt it's much higher than Crouch's.
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Top scorer in a team purely of Basque players for the past 4 seasons, you might want to check him out a bit. I do hope there's something in this.
 
AUSpur

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Flightrisker said:
Crouch
Club record - 143 goals in 456 appearances = A goal every 3.1 games
International - 22 goals in 44 appearances = A goal every 1.9 games

Llorente
Club record - 99 goals in 289 appearances = A goal every 2.9 games
International - 7 goals in 13 appearances = A goal every 1.85 games


Not very different in terms of conversion rates. Crouch 4 years older. Not sure of Llorente's assists but doubt it's much higher than Crouch's.
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As they say "There's lies, damn lies, and statistics." That said, in his last 3 seasons, Llorente has 46 goals in 109 league games. That's a goal per 2.37 games. In his last 4, which is when he's been a regular, his goals have improved: 11, 14, 14, 18. How's Crouchie's goals/season trajectory?
 
THOWIG

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That's not Itk mate. Might as well say. "We are trying to sign a striker".
 
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Shanks

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Also, in the fella's opinion, it was that we wouldn't get lorente, but the club are trying ;-)
 
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Mr Pink said:
What sort of fee are we talking about for Llorente? 25-30 ish....?

Hopefully we'll get 7-9 million for Crouchy or so, and with Keane, Hutton, GDS and Palacios likely to follow we could cover it and have a little left over to put towards Diarra :grin:
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I would think that IF we convince Llorente to come and IF we agree a fee with Bilbao, which i very much doubt, the price would be 30-35 ish.
 
Paolo10

Paolo10

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Oh yeah and (from Wiki)...

Spain_vs_England.jpg


Llorente (right, with number 16, marked by Peter Crouch) moments before his first goal for the Spanish national team.
 
Flightrisker

Flightrisker

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Not saying Llorente ain't good, just looking at some figures, fair points from all of you. I'll be as happy as anyone if we sign him.


Shanks: That info was all making me happy till your source said we were trying for some chap called vucinic :)
 
S

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
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Removed my post sorry, I've got it saved though.

Can't be having my name in such a post, sorry.
 
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