Dear Mr. Modric (again)

t-baggins · Aug 29, 2011

How can people think we don't hold the cards... He has a five year contract... He cannot leave and play for another club without our saying. We have said we will not sell him. We are about to sign Parker, and have Huddlestone coming back from injury and hopefully (sooner rather than later) we will have Sandro back. If it means we aren't the laughing stock of the premiership because we keep selling our best players then so be it. Bale will try the same trick if this is successful, and if Walker fulfills his potential we once again have to deal with clubs 'tapping' up our players. We must stay strong. We have signed a striker, who can and will score goals. That was our problem last season. Spurs are bigger than Modric, and we must at all costs not lose him.

If we do sell him it has Pavlychenko written all over it... buying an expensive flop of a replacement as everyone knows we have cash.

In Levy we trust... Not Redknapp on this one!

COYS - sell lennon to City on last nights performance too, and bring in adam johnson!

striebs · Aug 29, 2011

spurs88 said:
The sad thing is he's not the first to act like this nor will he be the last. It will probably be Bale next year as well. Unless we get our own billionaire this will be the future for us, you could argue it's not even the future. ...

Joe Lewis might not be as rich as he was but he's still a super wealthy guy .

There are probably 10 other clubs in various divisions with sugar dadies who could choose to turn them into contenders but they choose to exercise restraint .

If they all went mad with their cheque books it would all end in tears .

The answer is for the clubs which are behaving without restraint to be reigned in , not for everyone else to try and join them .

stemark44 · Aug 29, 2011

guate said:
pistolP.......... I remember coming on this forum and seeing your consistently negative comments regarding Martin Jol, how he was tactically naive, lost the dressing room etc and then your initial delight when Juande was signed on as manager. I also remember how you turned on him until Levy made the change bringing in Redknapp and now, true to form, you've turned on Redknapp also. I have to admit you're certainly consistent in your dislike for past and present managers.
What are you waiting for, a reincarnated Billy Nick? Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us with whom you consider would do a good job in the Spurs hot seat?

I think we can all agree that Ramos and Jol were lucky to be managers of Spurs who backed them to the hilt and who handed them the money to add to a good squad of players.

Since leaving Spurs they have both shown that they simply were not good enough to manage our club because they have done sweet F.A since.

Martin Jol was 1 game away from qualifying for the Champions League with a lot weaker squad than the one we have now and Ramos won us our last trophy.
As for Redknapp since coming here in 2008, we have supplied him with a fortune in money to bring in players that would rescue us from the threat of relegation and make us a regular in the Top 4.
So please don't read too much into Redknapp's fleeting moments of success ...............we have achieved them not because of his great managerial abilities but in spite of them.

However,the game's up,we have seen all that he can do and it's now time to get rid of him.:hello:

paxton north lower · Aug 29, 2011

spud said:
Just one final thought. In one of his innumerable quotes to the press, Harry Redknapp (another person, incidentally, who you have crapped on from a great height) said that you asked not to play against both Hearts and Manchester City because 'your head isn't right'. I'm pleased to say that I have the solution. If you remove it from your arse, you will find the view is much clearer. You may therefore see how pathetic you are, and decide to begin acting like a man instead of a spoilt child.

:clap: well said

peter123 · Aug 29, 2011

liono said:
:clap::clap::clap:

Spurs bias aside..... the choice of leaving a club with no ambition (no strikers in 3 transfer windows!) in favour of a team who can win the league/champs league and are offering to triple his wages is an absolute no brainer.

Levy hasn't signed anyone to take the club to the next level so I totally see where Modric is coming from as much as i'd like him stay.

These are not workers, no one has top pay my boss millions of pounds because I signed a 6 year contract. If I did sign a 6 year contract and my boss didnt want to sell me for millions of pounds I'd be delighted!

A 6 YEAR CONTRACT! If he was rubbish we would have had him on the books for a long time.

I think what is pissing us off is this is the guy that claimed he is "embarassed" by his wages!

Footballers like Modric prove themselves to be babies when they talk like this in the media and then spit the dummy because they want to move for more cash and better prospects.

saintlyspur · Aug 29, 2011

reading through the posts I think most of us agree dont sell him. If then his mind set is still the same put him on gardening leave as an example to others in the future

Paxtonite · Aug 29, 2011

superspurs said:
Why is that amazing?

When I get a better offer from another company, offering me more money and better career prospects, I jump ship.

That's exactly what modric is doing. Call him all the names you want, it doesn't change the fact that he has bigger things on the horizon that we simply cannot offer.

Get over yourselves people you really are all sounding pathetic.

This is the same argument that is rolled out by the media and pundits (who have their own agenda for fuelling the rumour mill); but this argument is futile.

In normal industry, the transfer of labour is a basic right and subject to giving the required period of notice you are free to change jobs. The new employer does not have to compensate the old employer as they do in football for the breaking of the fixed term contract signed by the player. Also in football (unlike industry) the old employer has to a) agree to the move and b) be satisfied with the level of compensation in respect of loss of that employees services. If not then it is accepted that the employee does not have the freedom to change "jobs" as we do in industry.

I think that the only people that need to get over themselves are people that think that football "employment" is like any other!!

Greenspur · Aug 29, 2011

superspurs said:
Why is that amazing?

When I get a better offer from another company, offering me more money and better career prospects, I jump ship.

That's exactly what modric is doing. Call him all the names you want, it doesn't change the fact that he has bigger things on the horizon that we simply cannot offer.

Get over yourselves people you really are all sounding pathetic.

Yes, if you get a better offer you will leave. But, will you refuse to work in the meantime - because your head's not right?

JLF · Aug 29, 2011

It is a lot more than simple black and white here. It's not just a case of being ambitious and moving to a team who can offer him CL football on a regular basis and getting your wages tripled. Football, is very different and the rules that govern them dictate certain conditions when clubs and players sign contracts. Chelsea continue to rub our noses in it not because they are a better club but because they have more money at their disposal. Ditto Man U.
I greatly admire Levy for taking the stand that he has. If other clubs had chairmen like this, then football would be a better place. Given the way Chelsea looked down their noses at us over the Arnenson affair, I think the stand DL is taking is even more important. I can also understand Harry's frustration at having to deal with a player who one minute is fine, the next is sulking.
I'd rather he just be like Benny and admit that he's simply a mercenary who's in it for the money.
All that aside, let's get some decent players in and let Modric rot. He doesn't deserve to where the shirt.

superspurs · Aug 29, 2011

Paxtonite said:
This is the same argument that is rolled out by the media and pundits (who have their own agenda for fuelling the rumour mill); but this argument is futile.

In normal industry, the transfer of labour is a basic right and subject to giving the required period of notice you are free to change jobs. The new employer does not have to compensate the old employer as they do in football for the breaking of the fixed term contract signed by the player. Also in football (unlike industry) the old employer has to a) agree to the move and b) be satisfied with the level of compensation in respect of loss of that employees services. If not then it is accepted that the employee does not have the freedom to change "jobs" as we do in industry.

I think that the only people that need to get over themselves are people that think that football "employment" is like any other!!

I don't think its the same "like any other". I wasn't the one who made the initial reference to regular jobs -the poster i was replying to did that.

The situation that currently exists is that a bigger, more ambitious club paying higher wages wants modric. Modric in turn wants to join them. As a result, he will not play in a spurs shirt the way he has done in previous seasons.

Beyond selling him for £30+mil to chelsea (who at the moment appear to be the main, if not only suitors), we can play him in our team in his demotivated and disgruntled state, or we can let him rot in the reserves. We may not have sold him in these instances, but we have still lost him as the player he was.

Whether we sell or keep him, we have lost modric. In my opinion we may as well get £30+mil to compensate for that.

We can try to convince ourselves that we have this all powerful superhero chairman who is going to save the day with his super strong statements, but imo we cannot win, we can only seek best compensation, and that will not come from trying desperately to keep a player who has no desire to contribute to our cause.

superspurs · Aug 29, 2011

Greenspur said:
Yes, if you get a better offer you will leave. But, will you refuse to work in the meantime - because your head's not right?

Well yes, if my boss was trying to stand in the way of me moving jobs, without offering me a comparable offer (and in modric's case, we cannt offer him what chelsea offer in terms of money AND challenging for honours), i'd hardly be motivated to continue with my job in the meantime.

HotspurFC1950 · Aug 29, 2011

superspurs said:
Why is that amazing?

When I get a better offer from another company, offering me more money and better career prospects, I jump ship.

That's exactly what modric is doing. Call him all the names you want, it doesn't change the fact that he has bigger things on the horizon that we simply cannot offer.

Get over yourselves people you really are all sounding pathetic.

So you would tell your boss "my head is not right" ?

The difference is that clubs own players not of course by owning their registrations anymore but by virtue of getting players on long term contracts and renewing them long before they expire thereby protecting their asset.

Indeed, we learnt the hard way with Campbell.

Modric signed a long term contract and if he did not have the common place get out clause if certain bids come in he and his agent were remiss.

Agents dont miss that kind of thing so for me Modric had no agreement with Levy that he can go if he feels like it.

He must must must stay otherwise we are done for with all other players.

We will always recover what we paid for him even if he does not play for 12 months and not playing will hurt him more than the Club. He will play and will need to play well if he wants other clubs to still want him plus get selected for Croatia.

Also strange that Red Nose is sympathising with Redknapp over it. He was the one that did the same as Chelsea are doing now re Berba !

superspurs · Aug 29, 2011

HotspurFC1950 said:
So you would tell your boss "my head is not right" ?

The difference is that clubs own players not of course by owning their registrations anymore but by virtue of getting players on long term contracts and renewing them long before they expire thereby protecting their asset.

Indeed, we learnt the hard way with Campbell.

Modric signed a long term contract and if he did not have the common place get out clause if certain bids come in he and his agent were remiss.

Agents dont miss that kind of thing so for me Modric had no agreement with Levy that he can go if he feels like it.

He must must must stay otherwise we are done for with all other players.

We will always recover what we paid for him even if he does not play for 12 months and not playing will hurt him more than the Club. He will play and will need to play well if he wants other clubs to still want him plus get selected for Croatia.

Also strange that Red Nose is sympathising with Redknapp over it. He was the one that did the same as Chelsea are doing now re Berba !

Regarding the whole "my head is not right" issue see post above your own...

Keeping him in this state hurts us as much as it hurts him - as I said before we will not get what we want in this situation (i.e a modric who plays in a tottenham shirt as he did last season).

As for the comment that "he must must must stay otherwise we are done for with all other players" - what will happen is that any world class pplayers with ambitions like modric will simply sign shorter contracts with us so that they have the sweet release of a free transfer not too far off the horizon should we decide to kick our heels in and try to force them to stay. That is hardly a better situation for us than this.

Kingstheman · Aug 30, 2011

Ho hum. If handing in a transfer request does not work, simply go on strike or perform a 'go-slow', then your club will just sell you to X, Y or Z.

We should have no mercy with him or his ilk. Fine him his wages every week, until he gets the message.

THFC_67 · Aug 30, 2011

superspurs said:
I don't think its the same "like any other". I wasn't the one who made the initial reference to regular jobs -the poster i was replying to did that.

The situation that currently exists is that a bigger, more ambitious club paying higher wages wants modric. Modric in turn wants to join them. As a result, he will not play in a spurs shirt the way he has done in previous seasons.

Beyond selling him for £30+mil to chelsea (who at the moment appear to be the main, if not only suitors), we can play him in our team in his demotivated and disgruntled state, or we can let him rot in the reserves. We may not have sold him in these instances, but we have still lost him as the player he was.

Whether we sell or keep him, we have lost modric. In my opinion we may as well get £30+mil to compensate for that.

We can try to convince ourselves that we have this all powerful superhero chairman who is going to save the day with his super strong statements, but imo we cannot win, we can only seek best compensation, and that will not come from trying desperately to keep a player who has no desire to contribute to our cause.

First point is that they are not a more ambitious club, they just have more money, surely we showed some ambition by refusing to sell Modric in the first place, keep your best players and build on it.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying but it all changed for me when Modric said he didn't want to play against Man City, that was despicable.

Modric has a right to ask to leave and I have no problem with that but and this is a big but, the club have the right to refuse that request. Sorry Luka but you're under contract and we want to keep you. At this point Modric should just get on with it, he is well paid, is playing in a very good side in one of the best leagues in the world and at the moment is loved by the fans, not too shabby a situation.

To treat the club and more importantly the fans that have given him this chance when many said that he was too small to cut it in the EPL, in this way is a disgrace.

For all that we can't sell now, maybe Levy could have handled it better, saying that he won't be sold no matter what left no room for negotiation, however we've come this far so lets just hang on for a few more days, its too late to use the money now anyway. Send the message that we do have ambition, want to keep our best players and won't bend over for the money.

HotspurFC1950 · Aug 30, 2011

superspurs said:
Regarding the whole "my head is not right" issue see post above your own...

Keeping him in this state hurts us as much as it hurts him - as I said before we will not get what we want in this situation (i.e a modric who plays in a tottenham shirt as he did last season).

As for the comment that "he must must must stay otherwise we are done for with all other players" - what will happen is that any world class pplayers with ambitions like modric will simply sign shorter contracts with us so that they have the sweet release of a free transfer not too far off the horizon should we decide to kick our heels in and try to force them to stay. That is hardly a better situation for us than this.

Sorry bro...wrong.

What will hurt us is players per say seeing us as an easy touch and that contracts dont matter with Tottenham.

They can ask for release clauses and WE can decide if WE want that or not.

CosmicHotspur · Aug 30, 2011

I agree that he should be fined if he refuses to play or quite obviously under-performs on the pitch when he does or unsettles the rest of the team.

I wish there could be a clause inserted in every player's contract that if he behaves this badly, his wages can be frozen. That won't happen, but hefty fines could certainly be applied on a regular basis until he toes the line.

JimmyG2 · Aug 30, 2011

I thought I was too old and cynical, experience hardened to put it politely to be upset by that nice Luka Modric.

But I am upset and my attitude with all these players who either don't want to play or turn us down for other teams is....get rid.

Berbatov, Keane, Parker (turned us down twice) and now Modric.
Maximise their value and go back on the youth trail.
Actually we can't afford to do anything else.
No sugar daddy or new stadium to generate income.

Thanks Luka it was good while it lasted.
£40 million Chelsea?
Cheers.

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