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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 1st June 2012
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McFlash
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As Chas and Dave once said...Give me a London girl.
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In ref to POTLs post I don't think Harry should be offered a contract extension. Simply because for me he simply has to deliver Champions League football next season to earn a new contract. I'm not going to dwell on the whole England situation, all I know is it was his dream job to manage England and I wouldn't have blamed him for taking the job. He didn't get offered the job though so we move on now.
There is no doubting what Harry has accomplished in his time here is fantastic. He's the only manager to deliver Champions League football. Yet the bar is now raised and the quality we have in the squad is more than capable of qualifying year on year for the Champions League. 2 seasons without Champions League isn't good enough anymore, 1 more and I think we need a change.
There is no doubting what Harry has accomplished in his time here is fantastic. He's the only manager to deliver Champions League football. Yet the bar is now raised and the quality we have in the squad is more than capable of qualifying year on year for the Champions League. 2 seasons without Champions League isn't good enough anymore, 1 more and I think we need a change.
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yido_number1
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There are very few managers to take us forward that is the problem!
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Sorry if anyone has mentioned and its not strictly ITK but.....
Has anyone heard anything about us signing ba from newcastle??
My cousin is a mad geordie and says all their local press and forums are saying we're gonna/have met his relese cause? I've told him there's nothing on here but he reckons they resigned to losing him to us
Has anyone heard anything about us signing ba from newcastle??
My cousin is a mad geordie and says all their local press and forums are saying we're gonna/have met his relese cause? I've told him there's nothing on here but he reckons they resigned to losing him to us
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The problem being, as was pointed out in a recent Topspurs editorial, that we have to run to stand still; our first XI may be the best since 1987, and if everyone's fit we're able to mix it with just about anyone, but I'm not entirely convinced by the squad's strength in depth. Where we can't mix it is in spending power, and ultimately spending power, not the manager, is going to dictate whether we move on to the 'next level' or no.
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I agree...but it should be held against him that he allowed himself to get distracted by it, didn't do his job properly, and now wants to improve his terms of employment.
If I were Levy and going to keep him, I would tell him no new contract, one year left, fecking prove to be that you deserve a new contract by the team's performance next season, and then we'll talk.
kremlyn
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There really should be a "pedant" button on this with an award at the end of the window/season.
It'd be hotly contested by those lawyer chaps who never seem to leave the forum but also manage to charge at least 20 "hours" per day.
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Is he his mate?
All we know is that they worked together and Mourinho rates him highly. We don;t know that AVB goes round to Castle SO for Christmas Dinner.
Mourinho requested Rodgers to work with him. Does that invalidate his statement that Rodgers is a good signing for Liverpool and mean they are best mates?
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Only issue with that being that we'd leave ourselves available to poaching, as we'd get £0 compensation if another club wants him. The flip side is that we'd be able to get rid of him for £0 payoff. It's certainly a tricky one for Levy, but that's what he's paid for!!
Riandor
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I agree SP, but there is another train of thought here that should not be underestimated and that is the Players and Harry himself.
If the players are in anyway unsure over his future, their performances have sway, like at Chelsea, give them a hint that the manager will be sacked if results don't go your way and pang, you have a self fulfilling prophecy. Same with not renewing the contract with Harry.
Harry too will not feel the love and will likely use media spin, comments in interviews to get his argument across to the point where he will again get the boot.
Either way, the speculation and sniping will just drag on and will likely be too influential.
Daniel levy has a critical call to make here I think. In a normal job, I think you and I agree that he needs to prove himself a bit more after the England events, but players and manager need focus and the focus should be on the football, not on how long the manager is going to be around.
So for me, DL's best move (assuming the players are in favour) is to extend HR's contract and then decide if he wants to be ruthless next season (and calculate the cost of sacking to get a better man vs the cost of a poor start of season due to speculation) Or just get rid now.
I just don't think the sensible approach you and I have discussed before here is actually beneficial to the start of next season.
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As others have said, it's a tricky situation.
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I think the last few years have shown that we don't need to compete in terms of spending to be successful. Sure we need to strengthen the squad (although our squad is strong but Harry doesn't rate a number of squad players enough to trust them) but we don't need to spend the sort of money Chelsea and City spend. We need to be a lot wiser in the transfer window.
A great manager can take this current squad with only a few new signings a long long way imo. Harry has already taken this squad from knocking on the door of the top 6 to pushing for 3rd place. If he can't take us that step further and achieve regular CL football I think we need to seriously look at alternatives.
nasescoba1985
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VERTONGHEN VERTONGHEN WHEREFORE ART THOU VERTONGHEN!!!!!!
Stick that where the sun don't shine Stoof
Stick that where the sun don't shine Stoof
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I know, I have said previously he should back him or sack him, and do it fast.
I have also said that if we are going to be in limbo nfor a year, I think we would be as well making the change now, and that is not anti-'Arry, or wanting 'Arry out, it is recognising that the situation can lead to stagnation.
The clue, really was "if I were Levy and I were going to keep him", because, if I were Levy, I would be thinking that the guy is 65, has had heart problems, and he hasn't got CL football next season (which I, personally, would say he had won the right to compete in), and I just would't feel comfortable offering the guy a new ontract. If I had everything in place for him leaving (as everyone thought the England job was his), I would go ahead and do it. Levy is usually quite decisive and totally ruthless...and TBH I am surprised he didn't end the relationship and just go for Rodgers, if that was what he wanted, and I think Liverpool going back in for him caught Levy on the hop a bit.
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VERTONGHEN VERTONGHEN WHEREFORE ART THOU VERTONGHEN!!!!!!
Stick that where the sun don't shine Stoof
You're still asking why is he a member of his own family, rather than why isn't he at Spurs signing a contract.
nasescoba1985
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You're still asking why is he a member of his own family, rather than why isn't he at Spurs signing a contract.
I know
I'm just winding him up.
Misfit
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Quite. What worries me is why H no longer rates some members of the squad. Charlie, Kranky - even Bassong - were first team regulars when we got 4th place last time. Now they can't even make it off the bench but for 2 minutes in 6 months of football? I just don't it. At all. I don't think he does either and that's worrying.
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