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Scarlet57

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I do wonder if I'd be more or less worried about the transfer situation if I didn't read ITK.
 

Lilbaz

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Fucking love you lot, the season hasn't even started and some of you are ready to commit suicide lol.
 

ItsBoris

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I'll wait until we actually play a competitive game to make judgments, I have been very supportive of both AVB and DL so far, but if we start the game at Newcastle with Jenas in midfield and Defoe up front I'll be furious.
 

Cavehillspur

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I do wonder if I'd be more or less worried about the transfer situation if I didn't read ITK.

ITK or no ITK, its more our pattern over the last few windows that concerns me, we've unloaded a shitload of players for very decent money and barely reinvested it into the squad, not in the key areas anyway.
 

KevinW

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I do wonder if I'd be more or less worried about the transfer situation if I didn't read ITK.
You don't need to look at any ITK or even touch a computer to know that we have only got Defoe up-front and have not signed another striker . At this stage , that should be enough to be at least a little concerned.
 

King of the Lane

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Levy has a lot to do in a short space of time. I get the feeling if he doesnt pull it off and we get stuck with the same promises but no actual results that people are going to lose faith in him big time. You can only promise "Next season we will spend/get a striker" for so long. And this is coming from a Levy supporter.
 

simon bartlett

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In my opinion the only thing holding people back from jumping all over our senior management ie Levy is the negative ratings they would recive, people are wary of the biased "in Levy we trust " gang.
If Levy were a manager wed be saying hes taken us as far as he can.
I personally tend to think hes having an off time right now for understandable reasons. Maybe time to take a break ?
 

gibbospurs

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ITK or no ITK, its more our pattern over the last few windows that concerns me, we've unloaded a shitload of players for very decent money and barely reinvested it into the squad, not in the key areas anyway.
Get use to it mate. modric will go at the death with no replacement. we will finish 6th then bale will be sold the following summer. back to mid table.
 

Breezer

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Well now, whatever happens. If AVB is given a lopsided squad to go into the season with, DL and the other high-ups will just have to suck it up. No getting itchy trigger fingers, even if the natives do get restless and the results aren't exactly great.
If we sell Modric and do not reinvest the money on transfers to replace him along with 2 strikers, then trigger fingers should be pointed towards DL. No more "in Levy we trust" rubbish! Ade should have been done weeks ago! Can't afford him? Fine, move on! A club the size of Tottenham should not be going into the start of the season with 1 international striker. You do not see this happening at any other top club. If we don't sign Leandro or another top striker(s) , I'll be selling my season ticket!

Good night!!!!!!
 

EJWTartanSpur

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What a stupid thing to say. Sorry. If we'd beaten Sunderland away or any other team we drew against. Yet you pick Manchester United away (where we've won fuck all) and the League Champions at home.

Sorry to pick on you, but this sort of talk spreads into people's heads like a common cold.

I don't suffer colds gladly.

Any match that you lose, you can point at various factors as to why that has happened. The point at hand however, is that in those two games, we looked short up front and very weak in central midfield. Enter Parker and Adebayor late to the scene and voila. Its a fair point to ask if they couldn't maybe have arrived before the Manchester games, and what impact that may have had on those two matches. Especially, if a pattern is developing. I'm not losing the rag yet but I think its a fair question to be asking, given the latest batch of ITK
 

Misfit

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In my opinion the only thing holding people back from jumping all over our senior management ie Levy is the negative ratings they would recive, people are wary of the biased "in Levy we trust " gang.
If Levy were a manager wed be saying hes taken us as far as he can.
I personally tend to think hes having an off time right now for understandable reasons. Maybe time to take a break ?
There's truth in this tbf. However, and this wil be my only post on this before it gets into a back-and-forth about DL, the limiting factor of this club is that we're neither debt-ridden or run by what is euphamistically referred to as "an oligarch". It's exactly for this reason that I think DL is pretty good as the guy to steer the ship. We spend within our means and those means are lower than 5 other teams, 4 of them vastly richer, we're competing with. Were he taking us as far as he should, all things being equal, we'd all be sitting here wondering whether we'll be able to hold off the likes of Newcastle or Villa for 6th place these last 3 seasons. Not being disappointed, bitterly at times, at finishing in the top 4 only twice in the last 3 seasons.

He can't take sole credit for that of course. However, the squad we have assembled at this club is fantastic considering our resources and those controlling the financial reigns are ultimately responsible for that. How many other rabbits can they pull out of the hat though? That's what they've managed and what we need, again, especially if Modric does go. Unless a new chariman could magic up another £100m revenue a yr, not sure how they could hope to do better than DL and his minions.
 

Misfit

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If we sell Modric and do not reinvest the money on transfers to replace him along with 2 strikers, then trigger fingers should be pointed towards DL. No more "in Levy we trust" rubbish! Ade should have been done weeks ago! Can't afford him? Fine, move on! A club the size of Tottenham should not be going into the start of the season with 1 international striker. You do not see this happening at any other top club. If we don't sign Leandro or another top striker(s) , I'll be selling my season ticket!

Good night!!!!!!

Fair enough mate. I can understand your frustration. The ST will be gratefully snapped up witin seconds anyway. Maybe hold off on making a rash decision eh?
 

Stoof

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Any match that you lose, you can point at various factors as to why that has happened. The point at hand however, is that in those two games, we looked short up front and very weak in central midfield. Enter Parker and Adebayor late to the scene and voila. Its a fair point to ask if they couldn't maybe have arrived before the Manchester games, and what impact that may have had on those two matches. Especially, if a pattern is developing. I'm not losing the rag yet but I think its a fair question to be asking, given the latest batch of ITK

It's a pointless thing really. Furthermore, Ade couldn't have played against City, who arguably had their best performance of the season against us. United away? United away?

Come on. I think if we could pick a fixture to write off it would be that one.

Of course I understand what you're saying, etc. etc. and I understand the point. It's just not a particularly useful one. "Well, this MIGHT have happened ..."

That gets us nowhere.

And that isn't ITK, that's JJ being a fan.
 

ethanedwards

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Nov 24, 2006
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There's truth in this tbf. However, and this wil be my only post on this before it gets into a back-and-forth about DL, the limiting factor of this club is that we're neither debt-ridden or run by what is euphamistically referred to "an oligarch". It's exactly for this reason that I think DL is pretty good as the guy to steer the ship. We spend within our means and those means are lower than 5 other teams, 4 of them vastly richer, we're competing with. Were he taking us as far as he should, all things being equal, we'd all be sitting here wondering whether we'll be able to hold off the likes of Newcastle or Villa for 6th place these last 3 seasons. Not being disappointed, bitterly at times, at finishing in the top 4 only twice in the last 3 seasons.

He can't take sole credit for that of course. However, the squad we have assembled at this club is fantastic considering our resources and those controlling the financial reigns are ultimately responsible for that. How many other rabbits can they pul out of the hat though? That's what we need, again, especially if Modric does go. Unless a new chariman could magic up another £100m revenue a yr, not sure how they could hope to do better than DL and his minions.
Top class post.
 

etchedchaos

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To anyone cherrypicking games for why we didn't make the CL, I have three words for you - Chris Fucking Foy.
 

Misfit

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Anyways, our scouts might need greasing up and shoving into the cannon eh? Chances of us getting a big money striker in are slim. Not impossible but slim. We don't seem to have much ITK on rough diamond strikers though. There's rarely a mention of a player who might have snuck under the radar but could do a good job.

Where's our Javier Hernandez. Take a punt FFS.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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It's a pointless thing really. Furthermore, Ade couldn't have played against City, who arguably had their best performance of the season against us. United away? United away?

Come on. I think if we could pick a fixture to write off it would be that one.

Of course I understand what you're saying, etc. etc. and I understand the point. It's just not a particularly useful one. "Well, this MIGHT have happened ..."

That gets us nowhere.

And that isn't ITK, that's JJ being a fan.

You aren't wrong, however I guess I just felt the compulsion to suggest that the other people aren't necessarily wrong either. The first part about Levy is perhaps not ITK, but the 2nd part about AVB not being happy, surely has to be classified as ? JJ is projecting it as him stating that the manager isn't happy, not that he opines that the manager isn't happy. Could be wrong though, of course ;)
 

gp13tot

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It's a pointless thing really. Furthermore, Ade couldn't have played against City, who arguably had their best performance of the season against us. United away? United away?

Come on. I think if we could pick a fixture for the referees to write off it would be that one.

Of course I understand what you're saying, etc. etc. and I understand the point. It's just not a particularly useful one. "Well, this MIGHT have happened ..."

That gets us nowhere.

And that isn't ITK, that's JJ being a fan.
 
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