Yago Falque - Almeria

TheGreenLily · Mar 8, 2013

Found an interesting site http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/tottenham-hotspur/verliehen/verein_148.html

Seems like UD Almeria are sitting happy in 2nd 4 points clear and Falque has scored 1 and got 3 assists in 5 games. Not bad going if you ask me, hopefully he may develop to save us a fair few million in the transfer market.

carpediem991 · Mar 8, 2013

He is doing well there but could be needed here as another option if Lennon is not available

Spurs_Bear · Mar 8, 2013

Not to be a party pooper but you do know he's playing in the equivalent of League 1?

And for those saying he should have been sent to La Liga, he went on loan to the Championship and didn't get picked.

These threads are great for keeping up to date with our loanees, but there is an awful lot of over-reaction going on here.

David Bentley is playing in a higher standard league with Blackburn.

TheGreenLily · Mar 8, 2013

Spurs_Bear said:
Not to be a party pooper but you do know he's playing in the equivalent of League 1?

And for those saying he should have been sent to La Liga, he went on loan to the Championship and didn't get picked.

These threads are great for keeping up to date with our loanees, but there is an awful lot of over-reaction going on here.

David Bentley is playing in a higher standard league with Blackburn.

Maybe so, but if he is part of a winning side that is he obviously now having a part a to play (at the moment), then it is only good for confidence right? Which may help him push on with us if he gets the chance.

Not saying you are wrong, but he is playing on a regular basis and is having an impact, they are positive signs even if the that league is poor. Then Villareal are in that league and not doing to great and not so long ago where playing in the champions league, I don't think it as poor as some people think. But then I have never seen that league, so who am I too say.

Spurs_Bear · Mar 8, 2013

TheGreenLily said:
Maybe so, but if he is part of a winning side that is he obviously now having a part a to play (at the moment), then it is only good for confidence right? Which may help him push on with us if he gets the chance.

Not saying you are wrong, but he is playing on a regular basis and is having an impact, they are positive signs even if the that league is poor. Then Villareal are in that league and not doing to great and not so long ago where playing in the champions league, I don't think it as poor as some people think. But then I have never seen that league, so who am I too say.

I'm all for positivity for sure, but saying we've got the hump because we didn't send him to La Liga is pretty over the top. He's not a kid either, he's nearly mid twenties.

Personally I think he was one of Levy's buys where he looks to make a small and quick profit on, bought him for 1.5m, sell for 2m and everyone is happy. Which is where you make a good point about him playing and playing well, effectively putting him in the shop window.

I'm not sorry we haven't got him here as back up though, I think the one that should still be here for Lennon/Bale backup is Townsend. Falque would be competing with Sigurdsson/Holtby/Dempsey and is comfortably well down the list there.

Spursidol · Mar 8, 2013

Spurs_Bear said:
Not to be a party pooper but you do know he's playing in the equivalent of League 1?

And for those saying he should have been sent to La Liga, he went on loan to the Championship and didn't get picked.

These threads are great for keeping up to date with our loanees, but there is an awful lot of over-reaction going on here.

David Bentley is playing in a higher standard league with Blackburn.

Tiny correction - Allmeira are playing in the second division or equivalent of the Championship and looking good for promotion, so the equivalent side to a Cardiff or Watford is probably the comparison to make.

He seems to have taken to it, and he can only excel in the games/division he is playing in, so he is doing well. Howeveer at almost age 23 (admittedly mucked about by Juventos and others so his development programme was poor) he should be able to look a good playerl at that level. So its good that he is - but we should noit too carried away given his age.

If Almeirs are promoted to La Ligua, it miight be sensible to extend his loan into next season to show he can cut it at a higher level - and then decide if he is suitable for Spurs first team or is better staying in Spain.

Spurs_Bear · Mar 8, 2013

Spursidol said:
Tiny correction - Allmeira are playing in the second division or equivalent of the Championship and looking good for promotion, so the equivalent side to a Cardiff or Watford is probably the comparison to make.

He seems to have taken to it, and he can only excel in the games/division he is playing in, so he is doing well. Howeveer at almost age 23 (admittedly mucked about by Juventos and others so his development programme was poor) he should be able to look a good playerl at that level. So its good that he is - but we should noit too carried away given his age.

If Almeirs are promoted to La Ligua, it miight be sensible to extend his loan into next season to show he can cut it at a higher level - and then decide if he is suitable for Spurs first team or is better staying in Spain.

Sorry, for clarity, I know it's the division down from La Liga, but in quality, it's a poor standard, that's where the League 1 reference came from. La Liga houses some teams down the bottom of the league that would struggle in the Championship over here, I saw Madrid v Rayo V a couple of weeks ago at the Bernabeu, Rayo were absolutely toilet, and they are/were 6th in the league. The Spanish league structure is basically another version of the Scottish league in terms of scope of quality, Barca and Madrid are Rangers/Celtic and every now and then a team has a good run (Aberdeen) and threatens to upset the applecart.

The rest of your post, yes I agree. And just as an aside, I really enjoy your posts/information on the loanees/youth players. Good stuff.

beats1 · Mar 8, 2013

Spurs_Bear said:
Sorry, for clarity, I know it's the division down from La Liga, but in quality, it's a poor standard, that's where the League 1 reference came from. La Liga houses some teams down the bottom of the league that would struggle in the Championship over here, I saw Madrid v Rayo V a couple of weeks ago at the Bernabeu, Rayo were absolutely toilet, and they are/were 6th in the league. The Spanish league structure is basically another version of the Scottish league in terms of scope of quality, Barca and Madrid are Rangers/Celtic and every now and then a team has a good run (Aberdeen) and threatens to upset the applecart.

The rest of your post, yes I agree. And just as an aside, I really enjoy your posts/information on the loanees/youth players. Good stuff.

Im sorry but I disagree, in terms of quality of teams the championship is stronger but in terms of quality of good players the adelante is more stronger than the championship. If you do very well in the league you are almost certain to be a good player in la liga. I agree with the structure is a joke but this season 16 teams could be promoted from division 2 and 3, so clearly spain is in a mess.

As for players, more players are able to make the step from the second division than there more players that make that step up from the championship, the whole barcelona team came from that division and as for age it is clear he needs games but look at pedro he was playing in that division as a 22/23 year old with the season after he was playing in a Champions league final. Even next season one of the players is expected to make the step up to become a star in the team for the next couple of years, Barca fans actually think this kid will be as good as messi.

I thought he was a Levy signing but seeing him play non competitive football, you could see everything was just too easy for him and in spain he was highly rated as a youngster but his moves havent worked out. He will be a top player imo whether its with us I dont know. I know he didn't play at southampton and tbh I have no idea why, as he wasnt that bad in his one appearance and that was saying something considering it was pouring down with snow and you pass the ball.

StartingPrice · Mar 8, 2013

Spurs_Bear said:
I'm all for positivity for sure, but saying we've got the hump because we didn't send him to La Liga is pretty over the top. He's not a kid either, he's nearly mid twenties.

Personally I think he was one of Levy's buys where he looks to make a small and quick profit on, bought him for 1.5m, sell for 2m and everyone is happy. Which is where you make a good point about him playing and playing well, effectively putting him in the shop window.

I'm not sorry we haven't got him here as back up though, I think the one that should still be here for Lennon/Bale backup is Townsend. Falque would be competing with Sigurdsson/Holtby/Dempsey and is comfortably well down the list there.

I would have to agree with this.
We have no idea what factors the management staff have to take into account when reaching their decisions. It should help Townsend's progress being at an EPL club and, hopefully, getting games (the same scenario has helped the development of Caulker, Walker and, to a lesser extent, Naughton, in the last couple of seasons). Or he might just be a moody so-and-so, demanding 1st team game time even though the whole World and his/her dog can see that no matter how much ability he has, he ain't gonna be replacing Bale/Lennon any time soon.
Having said that, however, Townsend always looks direct, full of purpose and looking to make something happen in the offensive third, whenever I have seen him, and seems of decent quality as well - so, if there was one player to logically keep as back up to cover both Bale and Lennon, I would say it was him.

beats1 · Mar 18, 2013

StartingPrice said:
I would have to agree with this.
We have no idea what factors the management staff have to take into account when reaching their decisions. It should help Townsend's progress being at an EPL club and, hopefully, getting games (the same scenario has helped the development of Caulker, Walker and, to a lesser extent, Naughton, in the last couple of seasons). Or he might just be a moody so-and-so, demanding 1st team game time even though the whole World and his/her dog can see that no matter how much ability he has, he ain't gonna be replacing Bale/Lennon any time soon.
Having said that, however, Townsend always looks direct, full of purpose and looking to make something happen in the offensive third, whenever I have seen him, and seems of decent quality as well - so, if there was one player to logically keep as back up to cover both Bale and Lennon, I would say it was him.

TBH we tried to loan out townsend before to the premier league and there werent any takers and loaned him to the championship again, even in this window other than Harry there weren't takers. Though I think any youth player realises that but there should be a degree of rotation otherwise they are waiting for a injury to happen and then when thrown in are expected to do well despite not much match fitness, sharpness and not having played much with teammates. It is important for youth player and owning club that the player plays games otherwise they may never become the player they should be tbh. Though I agree we should of kept one and played them giving them mins when the game is won but it wasnt going to happen when at the end of transfer window AVB preferred Dempsey,Holtby or Sig there over him and at the time Bale was a winger, so it was likely that he thought I only need one of the two to be fit and then I can play one of the 3 AM's there

beats1 · Mar 18, 2013

He played today, and seems to be Almeria's Bale lol, he was getting abuse hurled at him by opponents fans on twitter. His team did lose today but he played brilliantly apparently to setup the goal.

Interestingly last week he was playing on the left wing which we havent seen much of him tbh

beats1 · Apr 7, 2013

There are fans in the league saying that the best player in the league is Iago Falque, which is amazing considering next season Barcelona are expecting a couple of players to make the move to their first team

Snarfalicious · Apr 7, 2013

beats1 said:
There are fans in the league saying that the best player in the league is Iago Falque, which is amazing considering next season Barcelona are expecting a couple of players to make the move to their first team

I've watched him 3 times (whenever I can find a stream) and he's a constant, and I mean constant, threat on goal. So agile and he's got an eye for the pass.

Right now, Almeria is up against Recreativo and Recreativo already has seen a red card issued and 2 yellow cards. Could be a fun time for Falque and Almeria.

beats1 · Apr 7, 2013

Snarfalicious said:
I've watched him 3 times (whenever I can find a stream) and he's a constant, and I mean constant, threat on goal. So agile and he's got an eye for the pass.

Right now, Almeria is up against Recreativo and Recreativo already has seen a red card issued and 2 yellow cards. Could be a fun time for Falque and Almeria.

Indeed there is a decent stream now, watching the Al Jeerza channel instead of the spanish channel

beats1 · Apr 7, 2013

Some of the comments by a range of veiwers
in the case of the almeria I say Falque q iago has quality and speed(en el caso de el almeria lo digo por iago falque q tiene calidad y velocidad)(spanish)

Iago Falque the most underrated player of Spanish football(Iago Falque o xogador mais infravalorado do futbol español)(Galician)

Any player with more quality 2nd division Iago Falque?(Algun jugador con mas calidad en 2° división que Iago Falqué?)
To which Barca TV presenter/writer responds with "very few, Rafinha, Luis Alberto and SULO maybe/perhaps?"

Then he says
The best novice I've ever seen FALQUE IAGO is now player Almeria. What most technical player, lefty luxury and imaginative as few(El millor aleví que he vist mai és IAGO FALQUE, ara jugador de l'Almeria. Quin futbolista més técnic, esquerrà de luxe i imaginatiu com pocs)(catalan)

Iago Falque very good player.(Iago Falqué muy buen jugador.)(Spanish) some spanish youth player?

Some La Liga blogger
Note to self: highlight on the agenda on red marker to Charles, Aleix Vidal and Iago Falque Almeria for next season(Nota mental: subrayar en la agenda con rotulador rojo a Charles, Aleix Vidal e Iago Falqué del Almería para la próxima temporada) which Im guessing is "Mental note: highlight the agenda to watch out for Charles and etc. for next season"

Chris12 · Apr 7, 2013

What Position?

YiddoBirdy · Apr 7, 2013

Chris12 said:
What Position?

Attacking midfielder/ winger

al_pacino · Apr 8, 2013

Very surprised reading those quotes. In the few appearances he made for us last year the word I could best use to describe him would be plodding. He did show more in the few minutes he got this year though, so that combined with the loan reports are more encouraging.

Snarfalicious · Apr 8, 2013

al_pacino said:
Very surprised reading those quotes. In the few appearances he made for us last year the word I could best use to describe him would be plodding. He did show more in the few minutes he got this year though, so that combined with the loan reports are more encouraging.

He made a lot of chances yesterday. Headed a couple balls down in the box and made a few good crosses. I always thought he looked best in the role behind the striker, but Almeria's formation is very fluid in that he can be on the left then seamlessly move to the right and back to the left within a span of about 4-5 minutes.

It suits him well given his ability to play with both feet and him looking comfortable on either side. I think he could be a good squad player for us moving forward, but I'm guessing Almeria has some sort of option to buy built into his loan hinging upon their promotion to La Liga. They've still got 9 matches to go, and Almeria currently sit 2nd in the table with 1 point ahead of two teams with 57 points.

carpediem991 · Apr 8, 2013

I want that he is given a fair chance in our Premier League squad. With Bale moving into the middle we could do with Townsend& Falque as added creative options.

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