The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Hurt Feelings Edition 31st July 2013

thenickh said:

Is a front three of Morata, Soldado and Lamela feasable? Or do they all wanna play the central role?

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They will play where we tell them. And if they don't, we'll send them to bed without their tea.

Would a fellow Spaniard striker being here in Soldado make coming to Spurs more palatable? Just a thought. Could learn under him.

CowInAComa said:

At best he stays for a year. Which makes him a fragile 100m asset that has no interest in our club.

Fuck him off now. Move on.

It would be different if we were still talking new contracts and a real future with us, but we arent.

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The Morata thing has just really given me a football chubby. I'm praying there's truth to it. he might just be young and dumb enough to agree to it. Morata in, go after Lamela hard. Then sign a LB, any old LB will do. We'd do some damage and any team wanting to face us with Paulinho, Lamela and Soldado in the team instead of us last season with Bale playing for us will get a rude awakening.

Maske2g said:

We know what we lacked right. A bit of guile. . A centre forward. Some different options wide. So why create more headaches? More variables? Tweak
Tweak tweak. Not demolish and start again.

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I'm looking at things from a Bale is gone perspective. You know, he may stay; I hope he does but if he wants to go and we received a world record offer it is very difficult to deny him his wish and we would have been suitably compensated.

hutchiniho said:

There is absolutely no way the estimated £80odd million we get for Bale would be entirely spent on further signings.
Firstly we'd be lucky to get half of it upfront and secondly a large percentage would be put aside for the new stadium development.
Maybe Coentrao and a replacement winger to conclude our summer business following the conclusion of the Soldado deal.
Still good don't get me wrong but I'd prefer the current form of Bale than another player of good potential.

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We will definitely sign a CB

CowInAComa said:

its white hart lane.

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Spelling then.

fUnKy said:

Everything for next season is hypothetical, is it not? We can only try and look at it objectively and on paper two problems we had was lack of wide cover and goals from midfield and a strong presence if Sandro or Dembele were injured and a centre forward who is prolific in a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1. We have addressed alot of that but of course there are no guarantees. Losing our best player is a massive blow but if we replace him, decently, there is every chance that with all the business done that we needed to do we'll be better off overall as we'll be stronger in more positions and have more depth.

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I said earlier in reply to another poster that Paulinho, Chadli and Soldado if it happens are all players i am very happy we have signed to come in along side Bale as you have said they fit into the squad to cover its deficiencies from the previous season but were still left looking down the barrel with one absolutely massive glaring deficiency for the forthcoming season now. Obviously that worries a lot of us because we don't have a track record at all of replacing our best players and even if we do go for those top players there is absolutely nothing to say that they want to come to us. They may be ifs but the pretty big ifs and in my own experience negative ifs always seem to come true as opposed to be positive ones.

eddiev14 said:

I'll put this out there right now, just so we're clear.

No player or players that we would feasibly be able to afford would want to come to a Europa League club that has just sold its best player.

We're sending out the wrong message if we sell Bale. It's the same message as 2006 (Carrick) and 2008 (Berbatov), when we were on the verge of competing.

Keep him one more year and attract CL calibre players to replace him, when we are in the CL.

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Sorry. That was my fat fingers. I
Ment to give you a thumbs up.

Misfit said:

The Morata thing has just really given me a football chubby. I'm praying there's truth to it. he might just be young and dumb enough to agree to it. Morata in, go after Lamela hard. Then sign a LB, any old LB will do. We'd do some damage and any team wanting to face us with Paulinho, Lamela and Soldado in it instead of us last season with Bale playing for us will get a rude awakening.

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Spot on!

Bale carried us last season but with the right buys we will be a much stronger team.

Legend10 said:

Somehow if Madrid decide to include him in the deal because its no deal otherwise then I don't think young mr Morata will be given much choice by Madrid, do you?

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You'd have to watch them though. They like sneaking in those "oh and we can buy him back for £20 within the next 15 yrs" clauses in. Crafty foreigners that they are.

Just like Beyonce sung, he's irreplaceable.

I think we have to be a bit more strategic in our hiring policy.

If Bale goes, I'd want us to get 90+ and Coentrao.

With the money I'd look to buy Suarez (weaken Liverpool and stop Arsenal getting him), Mata (if reports are true that Mourinho isn't a fan, would weaken them IMO, so they try harder to get Rooney, which weakens them as well) and Lamela (potential to rise in value similar to Bale).

We'd possibly break even or outlay slightly more but we could field a title winning team.

Soldado

Suarez Mata Lamela

Dembele Paulinho

Coentrao Verts Kab Walker

Lloris

Sandro able to come in so we can rotate and go 433 when required.

I think those players would be interested in joining as well. Suarez just wants out and needs a change. Mata we nearly signed previously and is a simple lifestyle move for him. Lamela would be replacing Bale and earning more, which helps him no end.

Only Man City would be comparable/stronger.

Dempsey - Jelavic - Remy

Fuck My Life

marvel said:

Oh God.

@Gards44

13s​

Cheeky enquiry for loic! #couldbetolate

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I hate these types of posts...

OH GOD we've accepted the bid for Bale?
or
OH GOD we've lost out on Soldado and going for Remy as a plan D ??

What is it???!!!!!!

Maske2g said:

Liverpool are gonna surprise if they keep Suarez. Their form after Xmas was great until they realised the CL was a step too far.

You seem to be cock sure of the 3 players being the business....they could be awful for us. And one of them is not even here yet!

We aren't good enough without him by a mile. Did you watch us at home last year? We were fucking dogshit in the final 3rd. Slow, ponderous. Risk averse. And then there was Bale...

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Fair enough, I understand where you're coming from. Don't agree with it, but understand.

I don't think Liverpool will keep Suarez at all. Yes, they'll be stronger next year, I'm not writing them completely off, but even with Suarez I still think we're stronger. Us losing Bale and them losing Suarez changes nothing in terms of the distance between the teams, IMO.

Sure, the 3 players may not hit it off straight away, but they certainly add depth to our squad, which is lacking. We didn't have a real left winger last year, Chadli will provide that. He's natural to that position so I think he'll be better than Sigurdsson. Paulinho is a very good player already, a better fit than Parker or Huddlestone, and will help cover for the Dembele or Sandro injuries. Soldado is a better striker than Defoe or Ade, of that I'm certain, and is very used to playing as the man up front on his own. He may not be in yet but the writing is pretty much on the wall, I'm certain it's happening now (famous last words!). As far as I'm concerned, when you consider who the 3 coming in can potentially replace in the squad, not just the starting line up, I believe we have strengthened.

As for being overly dependant on Bale. Who knows? Maybe without him in the squad we'll just have to learn how to be a better team as a whole. You tend to find that psychologically when a club is a "one man team" other players on the pitch don't perform to the highest level because they know they'll be bailed out (no pun intended) by the star man. I'm not saying we'll be a better squad, but plenty of other teams have lost their biggest player and have carried on. Just take a look at Arsenal last year after losing RVP - they ended up with 3 more points, the same amount of wins, 3 more draws instead of losses, 2 more goals scored and 12 less goals conceded - overall a better year despite finishing a place lower which can be attributed to it being an easier year with Chelsea's poor league performance.

I just think you're being a bit too doom and gloom, mate. That's all.

Itk-widow said:

Just like Beyonce sung, he's irreplaceable.

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jeeeeeeeeeeezus. what an opening post. better get your beyonce avatar sorted.

EnfieldYiddo said:

Wtf are you about.

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Rebrov was the next best thing

Acimovic was the next big thing.

Dumitrescu.

Bentley

Prince boatang

How many other flops?

Being good as a kid or having a good world cup or whatever doesn't always transpire as them being good for us.

a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush....its a saying....

Legend10 said:

Somehow if Madrid decide to include him in the deal because its no deal otherwise then I don't think young mr Morata will be given much choice by Madrid, do you?

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But Morata doesn't have to join us does he as part of any deal regardless of Madrid want to do.

Joeyboey said:

Dempsey - Jelavic - Remy

Fuck My Life

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The stuff of legends!

Dazza86 said:

I think we have to be a bit more strategic in our hiring policy.

If Bale goes, I'd want us to get 90+ and Coentrao.

With the money I'd look to buy Suarez (weaken Liverpool and stop Arsenal getting him), Mata (if reports are true that Mourinho isn't a fan, would weaken them IMO, so they try harder to get Rooney, which weakens them as well) and Lamela (potential to rise in value similar to Bale).

We'd possibly break even or outlay slightly more but we could field a title winning team.

Soldado

Suarez Mata Lamela

Dembele Paulinho

Coentrao Verts Kab Walker

Lloris

Sandro able to come in so we can rotate and go 433 when required.

I think those players would be interested in joining as well. Suarez just wants out and needs a change. Mata we nearly signed previously and is a simple lifestyle move for him. Lamela would be replacing Bale and earning more, which helps him no end.

Only Man City would be comparable/stronger.

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We'd have to score 6 to win a game!