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Homosexuality is a disease and should not be supported – Mateja Kezman

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Geyzer Soze

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On that Football Factories Worldwide show with Danny Dyer, they went to Serbia and Croatia to meet a group of hooligans from whichever club - Partizan Belgrade maybe - and the leader said he fucked the leader of some other group in the butt to humiliate him. That wasn't gay though, just banter between hooligan groups. The other meatheads agreed.

Yup, not gay.

In some cultures only the 'receiver' is considered gay. (Perhaps prison too although I'm less sure on that)
 

HappySpur

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Typically when people are this veracious in their commentary, they are dealing with some feelings of homosexuality and can't deal. We often see it here in the states with politicians who rail on gays and then get caught on their knees. So being unable to deal with their own shit, they lash out.

So he might be an asshole, but he's paying a price for it, I am sure. I bet there is a whole lot of self loathing in his life.
 

EllenAlex

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Typically when people are this veracious in their commentary, they are dealing with some feelings of homosexuality and can't deal. We often see it here in the states with politicians who rail on gays and then get caught on their knees. So being unable to deal with their own shit, they lash out.

So he might be an asshole, but he's paying a price for it, I am sure. I bet there is a whole lot of self loathing in his life.


Would like to play Devil's advocate here.

Do people who veraciously oppose murder have a secret desire to murder? Or, do the unfairly treated have a secret desire to treat others unfairly?

Again, this is just a question, and not a stand point of mine, necessarily.
 

HappySpur

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Funny. Some are arguing that he be allowed to have his opinion.

Yet isn't people thinking he's a douche for having that opinion......merely opinion? So we can let them have that too. No?
 

Rumbaldo

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Funny. Some are arguing that he be allowed to have his opinion.

Yet isn't people thinking he's a douche for having that opinion......merely opinion? So we can let them have that too. No?

Absolutely just trying to offer another opinion in here other than that he is wrong, a tool etc
 

Sum Monsterism

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well he's entitled to say what he likes, but that doesn't mean he isn't a tool for doing so.

isn't the important message in Christianity to treat each other with respect?

I'm pretty sure Jesus was a cool guy. Peace, love, put others before yourself?
 

RuskyM

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So it'd be OK for him to say this if he was a good player?


Nah, it'd be just as despicable if it was Messi that said it. I'm just saying he's such a footnote in the history of football I'm not sure why anyone should care what he has to say.
 

Riandor

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Yeah but the difference being that everyone is calling him a disgusting human being or whatever for standing up for his beliefs, whereas we're freely allowing others to put forward theirs :)

No, i have no issue with him being against homosexuality, that is his and other's right.
I take real issue with labelling it a disease. It isnt, it's either a choice or a preference or a desire or whatever, but to attack it is to invite attack yourself.

If he had said "i dont support homosexuality due to my christian beliefs" and left it at that i would have thought him old fashioned maybe and yes i dont believe in religion, but at least i would have respected his opinion.

Much like how i respect yours, despite the red cross against my post!!! Lol....

;-)
 

Mouse!

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This means he disagrees with lesbianism?! :eek::mad:

All women should have the right to scissor without castigation! Fuck you Kezman!
 

rich75

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Gonna put my neck on the line here and take the dislikes but that's fine.

Kezman hasn't put forward his opinion or religious view point foward elegantly, but isn't it within his right to give his opinion? Everyone is slamming him for being homophobic but at the same time are being anti-semitic whilst doing so.

As a Christian myself it is in our belief that being homosexual is a sin. Given there are estimated around 2 billion Christians in the world this obviously isn't an uncommon viewpoint. So anyway, when asked about a gay pride parade, why shouldn't he be allowed to give his viewpoint? Again, I'm not saying he put it forward elegantly but he's entitled to it and it's possible the translation into English makes it sound more harsh than it is.


Where?
 

wearetheparklane

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Gonna put my neck on the line here and take the dislikes but that's fine.

Kezman hasn't put forward his opinion or religious view point foward elegantly, but isn't it within his right to give his opinion? Everyone is slamming him for being homophobic but at the same time are being anti-semitic whilst doing so.

As a Christian myself it is in our belief that being homosexual is a sin. Given there are estimated around 2 billion Christians in the world this obviously isn't an uncommon viewpoint. So anyway, when asked about a gay pride parade, why shouldn't he be allowed to give his viewpoint? Again, I'm not saying he put it forward elegantly but he's entitled to it and it's possible the translation into English makes it sound more harsh than it is.

Not putting his views across 'eloquently' is one thing, however saying someone is diseased for being homosexual is something far and away more than that. He is voicing his prejudice for people who are homosexual. He is saying he 'has a problem' with it and that homosexuals should be censored.

Pure and simply he sounds like a homophobic nazi. Change the words 'homosexual' to 'black' or 'asian' and see how easily it fits into your bullshit. And yes it is easily interchangeable as it is just as much a genetic difference between people. If your belief involves prejudice of others, then you should keep it to yourself. It's MY belief that people can be whatever they want to be unless it involves the sort of prejudice you are guilty of. Fucking scumbag I used to enjoy your posts but you should be ashamed of yourself.
 

HappySpur

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No, i have no issue with him being against homosexuality, that is his and other's right.
I take real issue with labelling it a disease. It isnt, it's either a choice or a preference or a desire or whatever, but to attack it is to invite attack yourself.

If he had said "i dont support homosexuality due to my christian beliefs" and left it at that i would have thought him old fashioned maybe and yes i dont believe in religion, but at least i would have respected his opinion.

Much like how i respect yours, despite the red cross against my post!!! Lol....

;-)


This is essentially the issue.

By applying this medical term to the issue, he is making a move beyond opinion and into a scary realm.

What do we always strive to do with "diseases"? Eradicate them. Pure and simple. Sure we can't always do that and have to manage them. But that's only because the science hasn't gotten the point where we can kill off the disease.

And by the way, have you ever seen the amount of work a parent of a type-1 diabetic has to put into managing their kids illness? Holy cow. It's mind boggling. So comparing your opinion on who somebody likes to kiss to something like T1 diabetes where the parents literally have to worry about their kids dying in their sleep......well that's beyond disrespectful to those people.

So, perhaps he made a poor choice in wording. He didn't say it in English so there is a chance something was changed in translation. But it wouldn't surprise me if he did use the term and used it with full knowledge of the meaning.

So what some people here are doing is excusing (perhaps even arguing for its validity) an ominous statement and then asking us to excuse it due to their "beliefs".

I know that I have lost a massive amount of respect for certain people today. I don't think I can come back to this thread, either, because I'm not sure I can hold it together like this any more.
 

SpurSince57

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I don't see how me having a belief makes me a scumbag. I think it's wrong to be gay but I don't openly go out and attack them verbally or physically and I never will. I don't approve of something, but I don't see why that should make me a bad person or make you know enjoy my football related posts any less.

Also, I don't think being gay is just as genetic as being black or Asian. In fact, it clearly isn't natural which is why two men / two women can't reproduce, nor are they designed to properly have intercourse with each other. People say they are born gay but this can't possibly be true. You can't be born with a sexual preference in the same way you're not born with a like of football or certain foods, it's not genetic or inherited. It comes as a result of the environment they're bought up in and events over the period of their early life, though it's obviously subtle rather than just waking up one day and suddenly being homosexual.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll give me a negative rep for this as will others, but it's my opinion and my belief. Yours are different to mine and that's fine, I wont suddenly look at your posts in a different light but if you now see me as some sort of 'scumbag' and don't want to like any more of my posts then personally I feel you have the problem rather than me

And we are to understand that you've undertaken years of scientific research in order to come to this conclusion?

I don't believe Jesus had anything to say on the subject of homosexuality, did he? And if you're going to quote me Leviticus, you'll doubtless be telling me how you avoid pork and shellfish too.
 

rich75

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Not that bit, his comment about it:

and moving towards something infinitely less old fashioned, bigoted, oh I could go on... but honestly, I give up. Tool.

Still not seeing it. Being anti semitic means having an issue with Jews based on their religious belief. Calling the religion itself bigoted is not having a go at the people but at the religion. Besides I was under the impression Kezman was a Christian and not Jewish himself
 

mk_spur

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homosexuality is real, people need to deal with it there are many more important things in life to dwell upon such as how can anyone believe in the existence of jesus christ for starters.
 
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