Candid Juande Ramos Interview about Spurs....

Japhet · Feb 14, 2014

One of the first things Ramos did was to not assign squad numbers to several players. Kevin Prince Boeteng was one if I remember correctly. What a dreadful way to announce your arrival at the club and immediately alienate a whole section of the squad. That was a real WTF moment for me.

Mullers · Feb 14, 2014

Lordbaldermort said:
'He speaks highly of Jermaine Jenas, who "always offered tactical solutions' - Jesus H. Christ. Jenas. Tactics.

No wonder we got spanked 4-1 by Brum AND Newcastle.

You only have yourself to blame Juande.

Yes Jenas, you know that guy who scored the only goal in the first leg of the semi final against Arsenal and also scored and played a blinder when we beat Arsenal 5-1 in the second leg. His form did improve under Ramos and every player should take the responsibility for those spankings not just Jenas.

Eric_s · Feb 14, 2014

Kendall said:
Yes, funny how he skips over that bit. Funny how he doesn't mention his failure to get the best out of Modric, funny how he doesn't mention the multitude of players we bought for him prior to his sacking, the Woodgates, the Corlukas etc.

Also funny how as soon as he left, Harry got that same team scoring goals, without rainbows.

It's also funny many of you easily forgotten that several of them games under Ramos we were very unlucky to lose and actually played very well. He has a few new players to bed in and is finally implementing his style.
But he was sacked hastily after only eight bloody games.

Deleted member 26368 · Feb 14, 2014

Mullers said:
Yes Jenas, you know that guy who scored the only goal in the first leg of the semi final against Arsenal and also scored and played a blinder when we beat Arsenal 5-1 in the second leg. His form did improve under Ramos and every player should take the responsibility for those spankings not just Jenas.

I think perhaps you missed my attempt at humour.

Eric_s · Feb 14, 2014

Japhet said:
One of the first things Ramos did was to not assign squad numbers to several players. Kevin Prince Boeteng was one if I remember correctly. What a dreadful way to announce your arrival at the club and immediately alienate a whole section of the squad. That was a real WTF moment for me.

Oh you mean like the way Sherwood treated coupue?
Every manager good, average or bad will have their favorite and least favorite player. Live with it.

Styopa · Feb 14, 2014

He makes some fair comments - but signing Villa and Eto'o? Get real. Obviously, there were mitigating circumstances - especially losing Berbatov and Keane and not replacing them - but the malaise had set in long before those two went off on their merry way - after winning the Carling Cup in Feb 2008, we only won 4 more games that season. By the time Ramos was sacked, we had only one 6 of our last 26 competitive matches and the results were getting worse. I don't think he was 'hastily' sacked after only 8 games.

Mustard · Feb 14, 2014

So it seems levy was picking the team 6 years ago. The bloke might know the value of a penny but he knows bugger all about football.

Until he goes we will always be laughed at when considered as title challengers.

Enics net spend since they took over is about 38m but that doesn't include Teflon dans wages or dividends.

Juande wasn't the best and he has to go but he was definitely constrained by levy.

dagraham · Feb 14, 2014

SugarRay said:
The way we go about it is flawed, you are bang on there.

We seem to force two people to work together as opposed to creating a proper partnership.

Agree. It's more than that though. Not only do we have to get the DOF and manager/head coach to work in harmony but we've got Levy as a 3rd Wheel. Then you have Sherwood in the mix...

Its time to bin the system for me. Its failed too many times and it doesn't work in this country. I know its been sucessful on the continent but often those clubs have massive resources and can rectify mistakes in the transfer market far quicker than we can. Or clubs like Dortmund with superb and vast scouting networks and with the added bonus of only one major domestic competitor. With the business model we operate, we have to be all pulling in the same direction.

I'm just Old School as far as this is concerned. And I don't think that an old school manager necessarily equals a dinosaur mentality. I think fans tend to equate old school with Harry, where there are plenty of managers out there who want control and are not stuck in the dark ages. Wenger, Martinez, even Rogers. All modern managers with modern ideas but who want full control of the football side of the club. As it should be imo.

As for Ramos, he was shafted and raises some very good points but the players weren't playing for him in the end. And the malaise set in after the CC final when he seemed to allow everyone to go on easy street fro the rest of the season.

WestBelfast Spurs · Feb 14, 2014

So whens AVB's interview?

dagraham · Feb 14, 2014

WestBelfast Spurs said:
So whens AVB's interview?

No doubt when the clauses forming part of his compensation agreement expire :cautious:

danielneeds · Feb 14, 2014

At the time the ITK was that Wendy was happy to let Keane and Berba go if we signed Pav and Arshavin. Obviously we failed to get the latter, but he also was a factor in wanting Gio, yet hem couldn't get him playing up top off a striker either.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Feb 14, 2014

Mustard said:
So it seems levy was picking the team 6 years ago. The bloke might know the value of a penny but he knows bugger all about football.

Until he goes we will always be laughed at when considered as title challengers.

Enics net spend since they took over is about 38m but that doesn't include Teflon dans wages or dividends.

Juande wasn't the best and he has to go but he was definitely constrained by levy.

Why should we ever be considered 'title challengers' when there are 4 teams with vastly superior resources than us?

Coyboy · Feb 14, 2014

Given his glittering career before Sevilla and since leaving us, I still haven’t got over why we fired such a great manager.

Mullers · Feb 14, 2014

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Why should we ever be considered 'title challengers' when there are 4 teams with vastly superior resources than us?

We are considered top 4 challengers, challenging for the title is one step away from that.

eddiebailey · Feb 14, 2014

Eric_s said:
Oh you mean like the way Sherwood treated coupue?
Every manager good, average or bad will have their favorite and least favorite player. Live with it.

Sherwood's treatment of capoue was nothing like Ramos' treatment of Boateng, or, as some have claimed, AVB's treamtent of Adebayor.

Sherwood has included Capoue in every match day squad.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Feb 14, 2014

Mullers said:
We are considered top 4 challengers, challenging for the title is one step away from that.

We shouldn't feel any sense of injustice when other teams have spent £500m+ to win the title.

The reality is that those teams have spent that money to get the best players. We can't compete with that.

Our best hope is that we employ a manager who has the ability to make the team perform above the sum of its parts. Although even then I feel after a long season the quality of squad will always give the richer teams an advantage.

eddiebailey · Feb 14, 2014

I always blamed Comolli more than I did Ramos. Reassuring to hear Ramos did the same.

There is a huge contradiction at the heart of this club; the manager’s post demands a pragmatist who can work with the resources provided, a Jol or a Redknapp, but these types are not considered inspirational enough for our ambitions, so we keep giving them the shove to bring in big name managers, Santini, Ramos, AVB, who demand to do things their way and end up in conflict with the board.

mpickard2087 · Feb 14, 2014

Eric_s said:
Oh you mean like the way Sherwood treated coupue?
Every manager good, average or bad will have their favorite and least favorite player. Live with it.

Haha.

I must have missed the point where Sherwood stripped him of his squad number and forced him to train on his own/with the youths... Oh no wait, he has included him in every matchday squad.

Mullers · Feb 14, 2014

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
We shouldn't feel any sense of injustice when other teams have spent £500m+ to win the title.

The reality is that those teams have spent that money to get the best players. We can't compete with that.

Our best hope is that we employ a manager who has the ability to make the team perform above the sum of its parts. Although even then I feel after a long season the quality of squad will always give the richer teams an advantage.

Better tell that to Levy and the rest of the board.

Gassin's finest · Feb 14, 2014

Nothing we didn't already know, or could make educated guesses about. We sold our best players, spent a fortune on dross, panicked, brought in Redknapp and half the players we'd sold the year before. And then Commoli went to Liverpool and the exact same happened there.

The guy was a charlatan and a cad, and shouldn't be allowed near football.

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