Ratings vs Sunderland
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fortworthspur
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I was impressed with Chadli's effort as basically the holding mid.
spurs9
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Just to strengthen your point, Muller only made his break through at Munich when he was 20 (thanks to LVG as BM were going to loan him or even sell him) befire that he was playing to the BM 2nd team in the 3rd tier German League.
Also, a more relevant playing style, Teddy Sheringham was playing 2nd Division when he was 20 and didn't play in the top tier until 22 and didn't start turning heads until 26.
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Interestingly, Schweinsteiger was a winger until LVG took over Bayern and he turned him into a CM. If LVG takes over us, it wouldn't surprise me if he did the same.
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Danny Rose - would not give more than 3.
Terrible player. Can't cross, cant make a simple pass. Keep giving fouls in dangerous position & not learn from it.
Naughton for all his limitation in talents, does a far better job. Rose has the talent on ball, has pace but simply cannot clear his head when passing/crossing the ball.
Terrible player. Can't cross, cant make a simple pass. Keep giving fouls in dangerous position & not learn from it.
Naughton for all his limitation in talents, does a far better job. Rose has the talent on ball, has pace but simply cannot clear his head when passing/crossing the ball.
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Very Impressed with Ade, Eriksen, Chadli, Paulie, Kane and Kaboul.
Naughton played well too.
Rose was decent.
Lennon poor.
Chiriches was ok except for the blunder.
Lloris - 7
Naughton -7
Chiriches -6.5
Kaboul - 7
Rose - 6
Lennon - 4
Paulie - 7
Chadli - 7
Eriksen - 9
Ade - 8.5
Kane - 7.5
The subs didn't really change the game except that Sigs scored.
Naughton played well too.
Rose was decent.
Lennon poor.
Chiriches was ok except for the blunder.
Lloris - 7
Naughton -7
Chiriches -6.5
Kaboul - 7
Rose - 6
Lennon - 4
Paulie - 7
Chadli - 7
Eriksen - 9
Ade - 8.5
Kane - 7.5
The subs didn't really change the game except that Sigs scored.
OmarsComing
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Lennon never came through our academy. We bought him From Leeds for £1m
Comparing Rose to Walker is a huge insult to Walker.
The subs came in to give some players a breather for a couple minutes when the game was already in hand. No other reason. The first sub was made at 82'. They were never going to effect the game that much.
To be fair to Rose, he was better today as the game went on. He played a few nice balls including a good cross directly after he played that horribly shocking cross that went off the defender. I'd give him a 6 today.
ackie
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Let's be honest - the midfield combo of Paulie and Chadli was worrying from the start and against better team it would have been suicide. Yes, we got lucky in that Sunderland was really poor and they were not really tested.
Kane - Still young and yes should have made better decisions and better finish. However he is still young and should be given more time on the field in the last 5 games. We probably should have had a goal or too if Ade and Kane played each other in.
I agree with your comment on both Rose and Lennon. Most goals scored against us have been from left side of the field and to me personally that is the weak link. I know goals have also been a result of bad mistakes.
In the case of Lennon, yesterday we saw the runs but as usual the poor decisions. Sunderland were indeed very poor and we probably could have punished them even more.
And lastly, I think most of us (incl. G.Neville and Carragher) sees Eriksen as a number 10 or playing in the middle. He was indeed the man of the match.
I hope that this score doesn't mean that we will see this midfield combo as the perfect selection as with better team and midfielders, we will suffer.
Let's enjoy the win and the flattering score line
ackie
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Yes indeed, I would have liked to have seen a little more of V.
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The match was on too late for me here in India, so skim read this thread and now watched the first half (in case anyone's interested you can watch without downloading here: http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/england/premier-league/tottenham-hotspur-vs-sunderland-3).
First half ratings
People who say Sherwood doesn't do tactics have got it wrong, Harry didn't do tactics, or at least not the finer points of tactics, TS on the other hand, if anything, does too many tactics, and once again he got experimental on us in this match by playing in this first half what at first sight might have been a 442 diamond, but turning it into something else with the players he chose for each position.
Basically he had Chadli as the holding/deep-lying play-maker, then he had Eriksen reprising the classic Modric left midfielder role, coming inside and getting involved, but being disciplined enough to get back to his flank when we lost the ball. On the other side Lennon's played a more classic RM and, but for his usual failings, looked half decent, up front Kane is a proper point man, finding some good positions between the CBs which in turn has given licence to Adebayor to do his wandering about thing. For me, in this first half it has all worked, Kane's diligence really helping Ade. Chadli excellent in what is surely an unfamiliar position, reading the game well and giving us some extra cut coming out of defence, allowing Paulinho to get forward nicely, meanwhile the Brazilian's extra energy off the ball has offered some coverage to Chadli too. And finally, of course, Eriksen's been running the show.
First half ratings
People who say Sherwood doesn't do tactics have got it wrong, Harry didn't do tactics, or at least not the finer points of tactics, TS on the other hand, if anything, does too many tactics, and once again he got experimental on us in this match by playing in this first half what at first sight might have been a 442 diamond, but turning it into something else with the players he chose for each position.
Basically he had Chadli as the holding/deep-lying play-maker, then he had Eriksen reprising the classic Modric left midfielder role, coming inside and getting involved, but being disciplined enough to get back to his flank when we lost the ball. On the other side Lennon's played a more classic RM and, but for his usual failings, looked half decent, up front Kane is a proper point man, finding some good positions between the CBs which in turn has given licence to Adebayor to do his wandering about thing. For me, in this first half it has all worked, Kane's diligence really helping Ade. Chadli excellent in what is surely an unfamiliar position, reading the game well and giving us some extra cut coming out of defence, allowing Paulinho to get forward nicely, meanwhile the Brazilian's extra energy off the ball has offered some coverage to Chadli too. And finally, of course, Eriksen's been running the show.
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I voted Eriksen but I'd luv to see the heat map for Ade? Can anyone oblige? The man was everywhere, in defence, played most of the game in the hole, deep in midfield, worked his socks off. Please see if we can pe I'm for next season, on his day he is wonderful to watch.
Really? We win 5-1 and you moan like a little bitch? I'm so tierd of some of you people.
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Voted Eriksen but very close between him and Ade. Both were a class above anyone else. Others did play well though but those 2 were the difference. Kane did well but surprised he has twice as many votes as Ade.
Ade played quite deep at times but still got in the box to bury 2 goals. Really brought the best out of Eriksen and think that could really work with Lamela too.
Would love to see something like this, with 2 holding CM's (or 1 holding and 1 box-to-box and 2 wing backs):
Lamela - Adebayor - Eriksen
Soldado
Ade played quite deep at times but still got in the box to bury 2 goals. Really brought the best out of Eriksen and think that could really work with Lamela too.
Would love to see something like this, with 2 holding CM's (or 1 holding and 1 box-to-box and 2 wing backs):
Lamela - Adebayor - Eriksen
Soldado
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Eriksen MOM - easy as pie that one. Strong cameos from both Ade and Kane. They hassled and harried the Sunderland defence with great aplomb and pulled their 3 CB's every which way, which allowed Eriksen the space he craves. Unfortunetly Spurs this season have been a 2 or 3 man team in parts at best with 8 or 9 passengers. We saw more of that against Sunderland where a chance to shine was foregone by players to seem more comfortable just doing the minimum.
I compared our performance to that of Everton on the weekend who were full of aggression, running and sheer will to win. Chalk and cheese. We always look as we cant be arsed until we go behind and are getting embarrased or wake up at half time as we usually do and realise that we are in a football game.
As usual the tactics and game plan seemed to be missing for the first 25 minutes. At least we had players playing in their ususal spots and we didnt try any of the creative kami kazi team positioning like the set up Tim and his fellow musketeers turned out against Liverpool.
What is it with Tim's sides? Does he confuse them with tactics so they blunder around for 45 minutes and decide at half time that they are going to throw away his tactics and just pass to each other like they should? Its an intruiging conundrum innit?
Frustrating really because when the lads decide to string a few passes together they dont look half bad!
I compared our performance to that of Everton on the weekend who were full of aggression, running and sheer will to win. Chalk and cheese. We always look as we cant be arsed until we go behind and are getting embarrased or wake up at half time as we usually do and realise that we are in a football game.
As usual the tactics and game plan seemed to be missing for the first 25 minutes. At least we had players playing in their ususal spots and we didnt try any of the creative kami kazi team positioning like the set up Tim and his fellow musketeers turned out against Liverpool.
What is it with Tim's sides? Does he confuse them with tactics so they blunder around for 45 minutes and decide at half time that they are going to throw away his tactics and just pass to each other like they should? Its an intruiging conundrum innit?
Frustrating really because when the lads decide to string a few passes together they dont look half bad!
Bus-Conductor
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I know Lennon didn't come through our academy. I didn't say he did, I just can't believe we can't produce a kid with more to offer than "0". I was being facetious, I am sure we have.
On a good day Rose and Walker are very comparable. On a bad day Rose plunges a level or two below Walker.
Bus-Conductor
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Well fuck off to the Disney forum then.
