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Sum Monsterism
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amongst all this managerial talk I've forgotten there's likely to be players in and out!
how weird is that? COYS!
how weird is that? COYS!
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The Scarecrow
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At least they're able to win games against the top 4. That's the key if we want to get in the top 4 next season.
Dirty Ewok
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With Poch one of the things i think we would need to do is bring in at least one of his guys from Soton.
FdB (love him or hate him) already has Eriksen and Jan bought into his system and style who can serve as advocates to the rest of the squad.
Poch doesn't have that and is coming into a clubhouse that is in disarray, push a clubhouse in disarray with no one to vouch for you and you run the risk of losing the clubhouse. Problem is with the Soton players is either we would have to pay a substanial amount for a player (Lallana, Shaw, Loevren for example) or the player wouldn't be good enough to crack the lineup.
Not saying that it means Soton is out because of this but i think there would need to be some planning to ensure that Poch was given the right environment with the squad after TS's reign this season.
FdB (love him or hate him) already has Eriksen and Jan bought into his system and style who can serve as advocates to the rest of the squad.
Poch doesn't have that and is coming into a clubhouse that is in disarray, push a clubhouse in disarray with no one to vouch for you and you run the risk of losing the clubhouse. Problem is with the Soton players is either we would have to pay a substanial amount for a player (Lallana, Shaw, Loevren for example) or the player wouldn't be good enough to crack the lineup.
Not saying that it means Soton is out because of this but i think there would need to be some planning to ensure that Poch was given the right environment with the squad after TS's reign this season.
markieboy
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Sounds a lot like AVB at Chelsea.
SpurSince57
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I keep getting this strange feeling that we've been here before…
spursfan77
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Good point about the club being in turmoil. We need someone who can sort that out. That's pretty much their first and most important job on their first day.
Spriggan
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yojambo
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I can see the positive in all 3 of our targets. Surely im not alone?
Just because you favour one candidate doesnt mean the others are going to be terrible, they are all good managers. I can see us being successful (whatever that means) with any of them.
In all seriousness seeing fully grown men having meltdowns because the club might not appoint who they want is absurd.
Just because you favour one candidate doesnt mean the others are going to be terrible, they are all good managers. I can see us being successful (whatever that means) with any of them.
In all seriousness seeing fully grown men having meltdowns because the club might not appoint who they want is absurd.
Franchise60
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City lost to half the teams on your list lol
Chris12
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Cause we destroyed WHU 3 times and battered Norwich away...................
andyp8080
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is she ok?
Nine while nine
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The change will do her good
Only time will tell
ItsBoris
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The only candidate who really is proven in that sense is Benitez. I don't think that's the best way to evaluate a potential manager though Barry. I'd say if we get a candidate with the right technical and tactical qualities as a coach, and with the personality/motivational skills to manage a club like Spurs, then it will be very likely that they will be successful here. I would say my concern with Pochettino is whether he is tactically good enough, based on some of the statistics that people have posted about Southampton never recovering from losing positions.
But from what I've seen he seems to be a coach that can improve players and can coach his team to be truly good in possession and able to use the ball constructively (as opposed to AVB's inability to properly coach a team in this regard). The concern with FDB imo is that while he has coached an Ajax side to be good in possession, Ajax as a club generally produces and trains players from a young age to use the ball constructively. He hasn't so much had to apply that system to a team in which most of the players haven't been coached their whole lives in that specific philosophy, and so I think there is a worry that he would have a far more difficult time implementing his ideas in our team.
Martinez after all had Wigan relegated in his last season but unsurprisingly went on to be a success at Everton, because he has the right qualities as a coach to be successful in a bigger job. We have to evaluate based first on qualities and second on achievements.
So for me perfect choice is Benitez but I wouldn't be unhappy with M.P.
neogenisis
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This from my Sauce, i have stuck it in the RO but im not sure when that will be activated.
Saints have made tentative contact with Malky Mackay.
Saints have made tentative contact with Malky Mackay.
carpediem1906
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i get what loads of you are saying with regards to poch, i do.
BUT...
1) can he make our 'stars' want to stay (lloris, verts, capoue, eriksen (eventually))
2) can he attract players who are on the fringe of greatness to sign
3) can he win over and work successfully with big name/'big time' players on a day to day basis (lamela, soldado, ade, paulinho, lennon etc)
4) can he instill a winning mentality
I am not so sure... those great s'ton performances were, imo, heavily carried by the individual brilliance of llalana..
Like what breezer said, given 6 months to look for a replacement, a winner and a manager who is able to do all 4 of the above and more... poch sounds like he should be wayyyy down the list given the time and requirements we should be asking for in a manager
BUT...
1) can he make our 'stars' want to stay (lloris, verts, capoue, eriksen (eventually))
2) can he attract players who are on the fringe of greatness to sign
3) can he win over and work successfully with big name/'big time' players on a day to day basis (lamela, soldado, ade, paulinho, lennon etc)
4) can he instill a winning mentality
I am not so sure... those great s'ton performances were, imo, heavily carried by the individual brilliance of llalana..
Like what breezer said, given 6 months to look for a replacement, a winner and a manager who is able to do all 4 of the above and more... poch sounds like he should be wayyyy down the list given the time and requirements we should be asking for in a manager
not_tenth-again
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Well its looking unlikely but I'm still hoping for FdB.
I just cant get past his player pedigree and the mentality that breeds, along with experience gained under some super managers.
The dominance since he took over, including having to deal with us fleecing him of his best players.
the similarities in approach of the clubs, we now aspire to produce through youth teams as they have done for decades.
He wants the job and better still has advocates of his style within the squad
and then there's also the possibility of him bringing Jaap Stam and Dennis Bergkamp with him as support staff, that would be immense.
Poch may be great but I can't help but think FdB is the man to lead us...
I just cant get past his player pedigree and the mentality that breeds, along with experience gained under some super managers.
The dominance since he took over, including having to deal with us fleecing him of his best players.
the similarities in approach of the clubs, we now aspire to produce through youth teams as they have done for decades.
He wants the job and better still has advocates of his style within the squad
and then there's also the possibility of him bringing Jaap Stam and Dennis Bergkamp with him as support staff, that would be immense.
Poch may be great but I can't help but think FdB is the man to lead us...
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