World Cup Match Thread DAY 4

Bus-Conductor · Jun 15, 2014

With the exception of Lloris there isn't a truly world class player in that French team and they were really unimpressive during qualifying, looking very disjointed and in-cohesive, but all of a sudden through circumstances ( injuries/omissions etc) they are starting to look like a team. They have a really good balance and team ethic. They have no superstars but are playing some very cohesive and bright football at times. They have a great group and a superb draw until the quarters/semis where they would almost certainly meet Germany/Brazil respectively I think.

Could easily add these to the dark horse list IMO.

beats1 · Jun 15, 2014

JerryGarcia said:
Just a heads up, BBC's World Cup internet coverage is awesome! They have various player cams and an overhead tactical view to select from, I've never seen that before

Sky use to do before but then they slowly got rid of it all including fanzone

EJWTartanSpur · Jun 15, 2014

Argentina never get their squad right. Absolute disgrace that Zanetti never got chosen for political reasons on '10 and '06, now it looks like they could be doing with Banega in the middle offering vision and tempo.

Mascherano PLUS THREE centre backs behind him ? Meh.

Col_M · Jun 15, 2014

Great pass by di mar there and no replay.!!!!

THFCSPURS19 · Jun 15, 2014

Begovic going from playing for Stoke to playing against Messi is like going from shagging Lisa Dingle to shagging Megan Fox and Cheryl Cole

beats1 · Jun 15, 2014

EJWTartanSpur said:
Argentina never get their squad right. Absolute disgrace that Zanetti never got chosen for political reasons on '10 and '06, now it looks like they could be doing with Banega in the middle offering vision and tempo.

Mascherano PLUS THREE centre backs behind him ? Meh.

I don't think it was political, I thought it was out of superstition

kaz Hirai · Jun 15, 2014

Bus-Conductor said:
With the exception of Lloris there isn't a truly world class player in that French team and they were really unimpressive during qualifying, looking very disjointed and in-cohesive, but all of a sudden through circumstances ( injuries/omissions etc) they are starting to look like a team. They have a really good balance and team ethic. They have no superstars but are playing some very cohesive and bright football at times. They have a great group and a superb draw until the quarters/semis where they would almost certainly meet Germany/Brazil respectively I think.

Could easily add these to the dark horse list IMO.

Lol told you

felmani26 · Jun 15, 2014

yawa said:
Centre midfield for me. Every move seems to bypass it.

Yea I tend to agree - for all Argentina's attacking options, they really do lack a Modric or Pirlo to offer an option from the back and a springboard from defence to attack.

Mr Pink · Jun 15, 2014

Dutch and French the most impressive so far.

JerryGarcia · Jun 15, 2014

beats1 said:
Sky use to do before but then they slowly got rid of it all including fanzone

I used to like the fanzone stuffbut I've never had a sky subscription of my own so this is new to me. BBC is far from perfect but their Olympic internet coverage was great and they seem to have built on it and are using it for this World Cup. At least the licence fee is being used for more than eastenders and crappy talent shows

beats1 · Jun 15, 2014

Mr Pink said:
Dutch and French the most impressive so far.

TBF the dutch weren't great in the first half, as Spain had about 4 chances to score themselves

Mr Pink · Jun 15, 2014

beats1 said:
TBF the dutch weren't great in the first half, as Spain had about 4 chances to score themselves

I think the performance in the second more than merits my original statement though.

Bus-Conductor · Jun 15, 2014

felmani26 said:
The balance isn't right in this Argentina side - cant put my finger on it.

Agree. It's the 352. 433/4231 would suit the players they have much better. Maxi Rodriguez just isn't working in this set up.

Should be something like:

Perez Mascherano DiMaria

Messi Aguero Levazi

or maybe

Gago Mascherano

Rodriguez Messi Alvarez

Aguero

EJWTartanSpur · Jun 15, 2014

beats1 said:
I don't think it was political, I thought it was out of superstition

It was political in '10. Maradona wanted domestic players and didn't want players with long standing influence. Even more bizarrely the manager in 06 thought Zanetti was done. On both occasions he was straight back in the national team after World Cup failure.

One of the biggest World Cup tragedies of selection, imo

EJWTartanSpur · Jun 15, 2014

felmani26 said:
Yea I tend to agree - for all Argentina's attacking options, they really do lack a Modric or Pirlo to offer an option from the back and a springboard from defence to attack.

Which is why they should've taken Banega.

Chris12 · Jun 15, 2014

Pjanic seems so calm with the ball

beats1 · Jun 15, 2014

Monaco's second choice keeper starts for Argentina in the world cup
Monaco's first choice keeper is back up for Croatia
Croatia's first choice keeper use to play for us but never played a game
Bosnia's first choice changed his mind when signing for us when he saw Croatia's first choice keeper sign on the same day after being concerned about his game time

dagraham · Jun 15, 2014

Well, this is a bit shit, isn't it?

Mr Pink · Jun 15, 2014

I really think Bosnia could get a draw out of this.

Argentina have been really poor.

beats1 · Jun 15, 2014

Bus-Conductor said:
Agree. It's the 352. 433/4231 would suit the players they have much better. Maxi Rodriguez just isn't working in this set up.

Should be something like:

Perez Mascherano DiMaria

Messi Aguero Levazi

or maybe

Gago Mascherano

Rodriguez Messi Alvarez

Aguero

They been playing 433 throughout the whole tournament but Gago was injured today

Higuain
Aguerro ----------------- Messi
Di Maria
Mascherano ----- Gago

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