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World Cup Match Thread DAY 4
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King of Otters
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I am the proud owner of a scientific book titled 'World's Biggest Vaginas'. The cow's is in there right next to Robert Pires.
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If football was solely judged on international football, then yes. I hear people say all the time that Messi can't be considered the best of all time because he doesn't deliver at international level. I look at it in a different way. For 12 matches over his career Pele showcased his talent on what was - at the time - the top stage in football, the World Cup, and his talent cannot be denied. But I don't think Pele can be called the best of all time because there is SUCH a limited sample size.
Each and every year Pele's stats at club level in Brazil begin to look less and less reliable. I feel they hold about as much scope as the ages of the Cameroon team in the early 90s. No doubt he scored plenty (at what was at best a medium level) but for me the tag of best player of all time can't be given to a man who delivered at the top level in only international football. That is why Maradona beats Pele. One delivered at the top level of both international and club football. One delivered at the top level of international football and performed admirably at the level he reached in club football, however how admirably is unclear.
Club matches make up, what, 80-85% of a player's matches? For this reason I would also argue the case of players like George Best, Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo above Pele because top performances at international level are outweighed by reaching the heights of the club performances of these three. Pele when he played was a bit of a mythical being, this incredible footballer who popped up every 4 years and was the best around but was unseen by the masses during the intervening years. But stories spread of the miraculous feats that took place in his local leagues. I think I'm going in circles now but I think the lack of public availability of his club performances just made him seem more... legendary.
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Phenomenal player back in the day.
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Fair play to the Argy manager. He's held his hands up and tried to correct some mistakes.
Gago hasn't quite lived up to his name but he can ping some passes about on a good day. Good to see Higuain on as well.
Gago hasn't quite lived up to his name but he can ping some passes about on a good day. Good to see Higuain on as well.
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Argentina fans: "Messi's better than Pele."
Brazil fans: "Five time champions."
Gotta love the banter of football.
That is good banter.
dagraham
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Maradona's better than both of them.
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Don't know why they went 352 but this is the formation they used in the qualifiers
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Argentina fans: "Messi's better than Pele."
Brazil fans: "Five time champions."
I remember going to watch a River Plate game and they used to chant "maradona sucks/smokes cock" nuttiest crowd I've ever been in.
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Messi needs to do it on this stage first, fel.
thinktank
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It's mental; they were much more fluid and cohesive in recent friendlies.
How can you be bored with some of the games that have gone on?
King of Otters
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You're a hard man to please. This is the first meh game I've seen.
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