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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - LETS TRY AGAIN - 6th August 2014
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goughie1966
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I sense a snap pre-season tour of Syria & Northern Iraq being announced.
Followed by a friendly against Shaktar Donestk
Barry Mead
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In some ways it's very positive news, I imagine quite a number of players would have been thinking of moving after suffering with AVB and Sherwood, but now it looks like players are enjoying things under Poch and feel that the team could do well and so want to stick around
LexingtonSpurs
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Try thinking about it from a more holistic view, ie the players side.
Rather than looking inwards from outside as us fans always would, looking at the club, you need to remember these players it's their livelyhoods at stake here.
I know they are on ridiculous money, so the problems you and I would face don't really compare, but players rely on contracts and a certain salary.
Put that to run of the mill Joe - or me for example. I'm doing reasonably well in my particular industry, I work for a decent paying company, the company perform well, and I am getting some industry recognition - nothing spectacular, but moving onwards and upwards in the world.
I hear that the new boss doesn't like me that much, or feels that I'm not right for the business vision.
What do I do, just jump ship to a shit company on less money, even shorter contract, or fight it out, believe in myself to show the new boss that I am right, I'm happy with my current package, I like where I live, my wife and kids are settled in the area and the school's great...
Now apply that to the footballers - who all have the same problems (just on a very, very different scale).
(I appreciate not everyone will like or even agree, but I'm not here for ratings, I post my opinions on matters that are being discussed).
Rather than looking inwards from outside as us fans always would, looking at the club, you need to remember these players it's their livelyhoods at stake here.
I know they are on ridiculous money, so the problems you and I would face don't really compare, but players rely on contracts and a certain salary.
Put that to run of the mill Joe - or me for example. I'm doing reasonably well in my particular industry, I work for a decent paying company, the company perform well, and I am getting some industry recognition - nothing spectacular, but moving onwards and upwards in the world.
I hear that the new boss doesn't like me that much, or feels that I'm not right for the business vision.
What do I do, just jump ship to a shit company on less money, even shorter contract, or fight it out, believe in myself to show the new boss that I am right, I'm happy with my current package, I like where I live, my wife and kids are settled in the area and the school's great...
Now apply that to the footballers - who all have the same problems (just on a very, very different scale).
(I appreciate not everyone will like or even agree, but I'm not here for ratings, I post my opinions on matters that are being discussed).
Gedson100
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They can all go to QPR, problem solved.
Big long expensive contract, no moving costs.
WHY IS HARRY NOT BUYING ALL OUR CAST OFFS?
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They can all go to QPR, problem solved.
Big long expensive contract, no moving costs.
WHY IS HARRY NOT BUYING ALL OUR CAST OFFS?
[don't answer!]
Familiarity breeds contempt?
balalasaurus
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Did he have the options to rotate with at Soton though? Clearly he has more to play with at Spurs. Also when he first signed he did mention (repeatedly) that he is aware that we are a 'big club' and that he knows that 'certain things are expected of him'. Seeing as we compete on comparatively more fronts than Soton did, that we have the players to rotate with, and that the level of competition he faces with us is that much higher, I think that the whole 'not rotating' story is a pile of horse sh*te (excuse my French).
He'll definitely decide on a first XI ( as all capable coaches should do) but he'll also definitely have to rotate. I personally think the only way some players won't play is if he thinks they're not good enough for whatever reason. Considering the abundance of talent we have in a multitude of areas, I think most players will (that includes the youngsters as well) will definitely get their shot.
goughie1966
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I understand the point you make but these players have/will earn enough money in their short careers to never need to work again. £50k a week players are earning over £2 million a year (pre tax). That's just one years earnings. Taking a cut to a mere £10k a week is pretty good.
Any of them with a bit of savvy should be set up for life. So I'm not going to side with them on this. I'd stick them in the reserves and let them train with the kids. They've had their chance. it's now time to move on and be grateful they were blessed enough to play at this level at all.
hughy
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This man. He be smart.
Sandros Shiny Head
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This makes sense but at the end of the day they're just playing football
LexingtonSpurs
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I get why the players don't want to leave. But I think we should go ahead and wrap up those "he is so loyal" arguments, and put them away for another time. These are self-serving decisions - understandable, but not based on loyalty.
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I think those few players not wanting to move to those that want them could be as simple as not wanting to leave London and their homes. They know they are fringe players but they have contracts that need to be honoured and can let them run to the end and then join another club on a free with a big sign on fee. You can't really blame them.
That said I am sure DL will sweeten the deals for them nearer deadline day if he has to just to make sure they move on.
That said I am sure DL will sweeten the deals for them nearer deadline day if he has to just to make sure they move on.
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Aha. I might know for sure what I am - but what about the SC Goat (aka A&C?)?
prawnsandwich
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Nuff said.
I can understand why some players don't want to leave Spurs. But it shows a lack of enquiry when they first signed.
Let's hope we only sign ambitious players from now on.
Edit: I posted this before reading brilliant Shanks post above.
Greenspur
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I would leave. If the boss doesn't like you, he doesn't like you. Most people never change their minds on such things. Your life will only become more and more miserable. Unless, of course, you can get the boss sacked, and replaced by someone who does like you (a bit like Ade, AVB, and Tim?).
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The Goat isn't always me you know.
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Lilbaz
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There's no point in asking. If you hadn't worked it out for yourself then you're already fucked.
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