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Cain Hoy say 'No'.

haslemereyid

captain caveman
Jun 6, 2010
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So Levy probably did too good a job of talking up Spurs.

That really could be the nail on the head!

We say look buy a percentage of the club we then use the proceeds to help build the stadium then at that point the club is worth significantly more and we look to sell and all make a bundle.

So CH may have thought hey if it's going to make money with a 10% stake why not go the whole hog and make it big on 100%
 

voxy28

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Jan 15, 2013
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I would welcome the sale of the club if the bid is way above our value.... 2x value like 800m would tie the investors down to the long haul. They will have to complete the stadium, invest in all the real estate development and push thfc to a top European team to get their return of investments.

Since the stadium will take another 4 yrs, they would most likely use the funds to bring bigger players in to push us into ucl. Sell Lewis!! Lol
 

Scott Spur

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Aug 9, 2011
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If the investors pay 1b for a club that is worth 400m why would they do that?

They wouldn't, it's paper hype.

ENIC are said to want £500M. The stadium is said to cost any new/existing owner about £400M. Add in some paper flannel to round up to a billion.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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Ambivalent on all this.

Could be very exciting if it makes us more competitive, but I guess it depends in the manner in how its all done. That's important to me anyway.

The other side of it is the not knowing who we're really dealing with here.

Maybe it is just about looking for investment at this stage, we'll see.
 

Ledleys Knee

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May 11, 2014
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You watch too many movies...

No - I've just watched Herts, Portsmouth, Villa, United, Liverpool (Hicks-Gillett), City (Shinawatra), Southampton (Liebherr jnr) and all the other clubs where it has gone badly wrong.

Asset stripping is the only way to make money in football. Investment doesn't pay back.

Thanks but no yanks
 

thfc1989

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No - I've just watched Herts, Portsmouth, Villa, United, Liverpool (Hicks-Gillett), City (Shinawatra), Southampton (Liebherr jnr) and all the other clubs where it has gone badly wrong.

Asset stripping is the only way to make money in football. Investment doesn't pay back.

Thanks but no yanks

Yes, because Portsmouth made lots of money through asset stripping.
 

Ledleys Knee

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The other risk, especially with American owners, is that they'll move us to Crawley (statistically the part of the country with the largest untapped potential fanbase) and rebrand us the London Avengers or something.
 

Lenny Leonard

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No - I've just watched Herts, Portsmouth, Villa, United, Liverpool (Hicks-Gillett), City (Shinawatra), Southampton (Liebherr jnr) and all the other clubs where it has gone badly wrong.

Asset stripping is the only way to make money in football. Investment doesn't pay back.

Thanks but no yanks

You mean the Southampton that were in League 1 and are now in the Premier League, that one? The one that re-invested about 80% of what they sold in the summer, that's the one you mean right? I work with a saints fan and he doesn't see their current predicament as a bad place compared to where they were before the owners arrived.
 

Mullers

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Jan 4, 2006
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But now we're 6th and they're 17th, so we've re-overtaken them. What's the problem?

#Mullerslogic
The problem is the season is not over yet if it was then we would've been overtaken by Swansea and Villa and we've just lost again to Liverpool again which now makes it 12 goals against in 3 games without us scoring anything.
 

Ledleys Knee

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May 11, 2014
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Maybe Lewis is Ill and that's why he needs to pull out.

Vivienne Silverton (his daughter) has slowly been taking over his other Tavistock roles over the last few years. Apparently she's a big Spurs fan and keen to succeed him in that role too.
 

Mullers

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Jol wasn't sitting 5th when he was sacked though, he was 18th I think at the time having had three and a half years in the job.
So he didn't earn the right to be given more time? I'm sitting at home watching the Getafe game and I know and everyone watching knows that he's lost his job and he has to find out from a text his nephew sent him.
He deserved that?
 

Mullers

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Jan 4, 2006
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I'd hope Levy would stay on in one role or another (no @Mullers, I don't mean give him the Chirpy costume) but I doubt they'd let him have as much control as he seems to have now. I assume Lewis trusts Levy to work on his behalf more than a new investor would anyway. It's not my area of expertise though and we still don't really have any idea what's really going on.
No he has to go, out with the old in with the new even Levy understands this.
We need winners at the club and Levy isn't that, we're looking around to see where the leaders in our team our there isn't any. Redknapp realised it he bought Scott Parker, Jol realised it he bought Edgar Davids.
When Carrick left he said at Man Utd you're expected to win every game at Spurs you're not.
We can't go on like this people need to wake up and stop making excuses, one league cup win in 14 years is terrible dude.
 

ginge

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Jan 28, 2011
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Anyone that is doubting this due to the recent formation of the company should understand that this is common practice.
My own dealings with Goldstein were when he was at Heron and with financial backing from Investec and one other they formed a company to buy a petrol station network. The company in theory only really existed when they acquired the assets that they purchased. This would be the same with Cain Hoy. Spurs would in theory become Cain Hoy.Before any purchase it is really just an agreement of ownership structure.
 

THFCSPURS19

The Speaker of the Transfer Rumours Forum
Jan 6, 2013
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No he has to go, out with the old in with the new even Levy understands this.
We need winners at the club and Levy isn't that, we're looking around to see where the leaders in our team our there isn't any. Redknapp realised it he bought Scott Parker, Jol realised it he bought Edgar Davids.
When Carrick left he said at Man Utd you're expected to win every game at Spurs you're not.
We can't go on like this people need to wake up and stop making excuses, one league cup win in 14 years is terrible dude.
We have many captains in our team. The leader stuff is bollocks.
 
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