Cain Hoy say 'No'.

[hellava_tough]

Todd Boehly is in charge. He is President of Guggenheim and outbid Kronke for LA Dodgers. He has not resigned from Guggenheim. Silverman is vice chairman of asset management in Guggenheim, he has also not resigned from Guggenheim.

They are Guggenheim.

Which I guess makes it even more nailed on??

 

[Lilbaz]

I've heard it all before from Herts fans. With Romanov they were going to finally break the dominance of the Glasgow clubs...

Only 2 of these things have ever worked out well - Chelsea and City. All the rest have been for the worse. But even well means doping the club and hollow success.

FFP now means they can't throw money at the club anyway. The whole purpose of FFP is to protect the existing elite and prevent any new money clubs being able to challenge.

Just to play devils advocate (as I don't know if it will be good or not). They can invest quite a lot of money into the club without being effected by FFP. They can build the stadium for starters reinjecting the naming rights back into the squad. They can spend £255m on players due to our low wages and net spend over the last 3 years and the fact that they can make a £40m loan (that will have to be converted into shares). That's £ around £600-700m there without effecting FFP. We would still be able to then sell the flats from the NDP. Or rent them to generate money for wages as with the Sainsbury's and College.
If they did this then you'd hope we'd be good enough to be in CL and get better sponsors and push for a title challenge.

That is a very optimistic look at what they could do.

 

[Lilbaz]

Which I guess makes it even more nailed on??

Fuck knows. All we know is that they are very serious players. We'll find out in the next month.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

That really could be the nail on the head!

We say look buy a percentage of the club we then use the proceeds to help build the stadium then at that point the club is worth significantly more and we look to sell and all make a bundle.

So CH may have thought hey if it's going to make money with a 10% stake why not go the whole hog and make it big on 100%

Any equity investment wouldn't necessarily be "normal shares".

 

[Yid-ol]

well yeah it does how can someone be a captain for the team when they arent on the pitch playing because they've been dropped or injured? How is going to give someone a bollocking for being out of position when he is playing shit himself? Someone like stamboli as captain he barely knows his team mates he hasn't even kicked a ball doesn't know if he will be a regular starter he can't be captain. I think players would resent it.

I never said anything about players on the bench, all I said was form has nothing to do with leader qualities. Even the best leaders in the game have poor periods yet still play.

As for bing injured..... Every player gets injured, are you seriously saying if a player gets injured they can't be captain? Or just as he is injured and not kin the pitch he can't be captain, as if it's the latter... Well duh!!

Not knowing team mates again has no relevance. If you are good enough and have the qualities then you can lead/manage players without knowing them personally.

 

[Lilbaz]

Facts are Spurs have spoken to CH regarding finance "of the stadium".

Spurs say there is "no discussion about a takeover".

CH are thinking about maybe making a bid.

The rest is media speculation and as we know the media and fact do not make good bedfellows.

West Ham IMHO would be a far cheaper and better bet for a takeover among the London clubs.
They also come with a chain of sex shop thrown in......what's not to like?

Not sure they will. They will not own their own stadium. The OS is not yet completed (refurb) and will have a very tiny corporate area. Their world brand/sponsor deals/fan base are quite small.

We have much better fixed assets. That will only increase once the stadium/housing is built. We have much better ties with AEG/Maple Leaf etc... (our merchandise is already being sold across canada and the US). There may even be the possibility of an NFL franchise based in our new stadium (Guggenheim fancy buying a London franchise)?

 

[Spurrific]

Just because someone hasn't played for us, or been with us long has no impact on if they are leaders, same with how well they have been playing.

Leadership is totally different qualities to talent.

Also for the video, this again how no impact on leadership, moving out the way once for a free kick is stupid, but doesn't mean he isn't a leader.

Exactly. If anything, it shows that players follow his lead as Paulinho got out of the way, too.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I wouldn't worry too much, its not like our players showcased their talent last season.

all levis fault init m8

 

[Mullers]

I never said anything about players on the bench, all I said was form has nothing to do with leader qualities. Even the best leaders in the game have poor periods yet still play.

As for bing injured..... Every player gets injured, are you seriously saying if a player gets injured they can't be captain? Or just as he is injured and not kin the pitch he can't be captain, as if it's the latter... Well duh!!

Not knowing team mates again has no relevance. If you are good enough and have the qualities then you can lead/manage players without knowing them personally.

Having poor small periods is one thing being consistently bad for for large periods is another.
If someone got me in my face because of one mistake when they have been playing bad all match, I'd tell them to fuck off and sort their own performance.

If a player is inury prone he should not be captain. What the video didn't show also is Adebayor giving Paulinho a bollocking while absorbing himself of all responsibility.

 

[Mullers]

all levis fault init m8

You don't give Levy credit for anything he does on the pitch, so if you don't give him blame at least I can say the logic is consistant.

 

[Lilbaz]

Having poor small periods is one thing being consistently bad for for large periods is another.
If someone got me in my face because of one mistake when they have been playing bad all match, I'd tell them to fuck off and sort their own performance.

If a player is inury prone he should not be captain. What the video didn't show also is Adebayor giving Paulinho a bollocking while absorbing himself of all responsibility.

What do you think about the possible takeover? It is after all what this thread is about.

 

[Dan Yeats]

Having poor small periods is one thing being consistently bad for for large periods is another.
If someone got me in my face because of one mistake when they have been playing bad all match, I'd tell them to fuck off and sort their own performance.

If a player is inury prone he should not be captain. What the video didn't show also is Adebayor giving Paulinho a bollocking while absorbing himself of all responsibility.

"absolving"

 

[The Scarecrow]

the use of 'spectacular' gives me butterflies..

Yeah, I'm starting to get on board with this. If we can keep Levy as our chairman, and get new owners who are willing to spend a bit, that would be an ideal situation imo.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

So let me get this right; individuals from Guggenheim, a company with a track record in investing in sports and media, have created a separate company Cain Hoy? A day after they were created, Cain Hoy make a public declaration that they wish to purchase Spurs.

I don't have any experience in finance or the like, but doesn't this look pretty nailed on? The experienced guys from Guggenheim wouldn't create a company and announce that they want to buy Spurs, if they weren't 99% sure that they (i) had the money to do so and (ii) their bid would be accepted.

Or are there some glaring facts that I'm missing?

Yes they would - it's called a speculative SPV. It costs a couple of hundred quid to create a new company and allows them to distance other operations and name/assets from the potential purchase. The world is littered with dormant speculative SPV's from deals that were intended but didn't come to fruition.

Think about it for a moment, if Guggenheim tried directly to buy THFC and failed then the press would be full of "Guggenheim failure" (which is a pretty big blow to his name), whereas if he creates an SPV called Cain Hay then the press is "Cain Hay Fail" and nobody notices.

It might be interesting if they move the SPV to a tax domicile country though as we could see some very creative transfer pricing - perhaps we could see the economic rights for the use of the THFC brand owned in BVI and outside the scope of UK CT?

 

[Mullers]

What do you think about the possible takeover? It is after all what this thread is about.

If they have serious money to invest to take us to the next level, with a clear plan, then I would be for it.

 

[Lilbaz]

If they have serious money to invest to take us to the next level, with a clear plan, then I would be for it.

Would you be happy if Levy was kept on?

 

[SteveH]

Not sure they will. They will not own their own stadium. The OS is not yet completed (refurb) and will have a very tiny corporate area. Their world brand/sponsor deals/fan base are quite small.

We have much better fixed assets. That will only increase once the stadium/housing is built. We have much better ties with AEG/Maple Leaf etc... (our merchandise is already being sold across canada and the US). There may even be the possibility of an NFL franchise based in our new stadium (Guggenheim fancy buying a London franchise)?

Yeah you are probable right - still think they will be drawn to the attractive proposition of the porn outlets

 

[Mullers]

"absolving"

I make a ton of spelling and grammatical errors if you correct them every time I post, you'll probably never have time to post your own views on this forum ever again.

 

[Lenny Leonard]

all levis fault init m8

Those pesky bloody jeans labels, always trying to fuck Spurs up. ****s!

 

[Mullers]

Would you be happy if Levy was kept on?

Keep him on to do what? Like I said in a previous post it should be out with the old and in with the new, Levy understands this.