Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

Michael Besse said:

Do some of you people on here realize it's not as simple as saying "pay 25m and agree the fee"?He wants champions league and no doubt higher wages than what we can offer if available. We are no United financially. If they want him (which it seems like they do now) they will get him. Maybe we have a slim chance but no divine right to be able to sign him

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Shea said:

I know what you're saying and to an extent you're right of course

But that Bill Nic quote gets reeled out to justify every and everything connected to Spurs

Is it better to fail aiming high on all occasions? Especially when dealing with transfer windows

Failed aiming high for Schinderland and ended up with Stambouli, failed with Musacchio ended up with Fazio

Read Aguero, Rossi, Moutinho.....all players we supposedly failed while aiming high for and unless you consider the likes of Stambouli and Fazio to have in them the echo of glory I think this illustrates the problem

I agree we should be aiming for the right player/s, I agree as a result there will be competition for that player but what we need to avoid, what I hope we will correct now we have a new group of people involved in scouting and signing players is getting in to the types of situations that comprise our whole transfer window

We aimed high by splashing big money on the likes of Soldado, Lamela and Paulinho when we sold Bale - I''m yet to see the echo's of glory from that - we must stop spending silly money on the wrong type of player just like we must stop chasing players who ultimately don't sign to the extent where there is no suitable replacement signed once they do not sign

I'm all for us chasing the target we want and the guy we have identified as our number 1 - I agree with you that we should be after the right player not just the easy player to get. What however we cannot continue to do is chase these players unsuccessfully and miss out on suitable alternatives as a result (and end up panic buying someone who is not fit for purpose and either doesn't play or isn't very good when he does)

So I hope with the new guys in and around the transfer dealings that now when we aim high for transfers we will also have a number of equally suitable alternatives we can sign if and when the top targets don't come off.

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Snarfalicious said:

YOU PEOPLE?!

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spurs9 said:

I think you have misinterpreted what @TrickyVilla is saying (or I have). I think he is saying if we fail to get get the Schneiderlin or Musacchio, we try and get the equvilant that we have spent a lot of time evaluating (e.g. Kramer) but if we can't bring them in, we bring no-one in, avoiding more Stambouli and Fazio signings.

It seems we have a team in place now that has researched each player we are looking at to ensure they fit the system/league/style of play to minimise the risk of the signing being a failure (there will never be a 100% guarantee of success). If we can't bring in one of those thoroughly researched players in, we stick with what we have. I don't see what more we can do as a club given out lack of CL and income.

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sundanceyid10 said:

I think Liverpool are going to implode this coming season, I don't think Rodgers is a very good manager and I have a feeling Pool fans are going to turn on him and its going to get ugly real fast.

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MattPhilpott said:

Say this Paulinho deal happens for £15m, Capoue for £9m = £24m surely no excuses then? Pay up or go home?

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felmani26 said:

Has to be the best approach here - absolutely no point in offloading high earning/low contributing squad players and replacing them with identikit players which only serve to waste resources and provide more hurdles for our promising youth.

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spurs9 said:

I think you have misinterpreted what @TrickyVilla is saying (or I have). I think he is saying if we fail to get get the Schneiderlin or Musacchio, we try and get the equvilant that we have spent a lot of time evaluating (e.g. Kramer) but if we can't bring them in, we bring no-one in, avoiding more Stambouli and Fazio signings.

It seems we have a team in place now that has researched each player we are looking at to ensure they fit the system/league/style of play to minimise the risk of the signing being a failure (there will never be a 100% guarantee of success). If we can't bring in one of those thoroughly researched players in, we stick with what we have. I don't see what more we can do as a club given out lack of CL and income.

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LexingtonSpurs said:

One of the things about the mystical "black box" was that it was used to evaluate existing team players in addition to outsiders.

I imagine that all players on the first team, and academy (and loans) have been evaluated and players we look to bring in are better than internal candidates for those same positions.

We did not have that evaluation in place last summer.

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marc aron said:

looks like there's an extremely strong alternative to Schneiderlin who's price has been dropping.. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/06/1...sell-jordy-clasie-for-cheaper-as-replacement/

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spurs9 said:

I think you have misinterpreted what @TrickyVilla is saying (or I have). I think he is saying if we fail to get get the Schneiderlin or Musacchio, we try and get the equvilant that we have spent a lot of time evaluating (e.g. Kramer) but if we can't bring them in, we bring no-one in, avoiding more Stambouli and Fazio signings.

It seems we have a team in place now that has researched each player we are looking at to ensure they fit the system/league/style of play to minimise the risk of the signing being a failure (there will never be a 100% guarantee of success). If we can't bring in one of those thoroughly researched players in, we stick with what we have. I don't see what more we can do as a club given out lack of CL and income.

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marc aron said:

looks like there's an extremely strong alternative to Schneiderlin who's price has been dropping.. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/06/1...sell-jordy-clasie-for-cheaper-as-replacement/

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spurs9 said:

Completely agree. I don't think they learnt from the transfers last season at all. Milner is the only signing they have made, that when I look at their existing squad, makes sense. Why bring in Ings if Sturridge is injury prone and they already have Lambert, Balotelli & Origi, why not bring in a 1st choice starter and have Strurridge compete with him when fit. If they are bringing in a 1st choice striker, why bring in Ings as well? Why sign Firminho, when they have Coutinho, Lallana & Markovic?

They need a CB, have they even been linked to one?

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TEESSIDE1 said:

Yes, bought the highly rated youngster Gomez from Charlton for £3.5m.

Regardless of whether the Liverpool squad gels, the worrying thing is they've multiple options all over the place whereas we don't. Lose Kane to injury and we're screwed.

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