Lilbaz
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It's levy. He'll set fire to it.
New Stadium Details And Discussions
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It's levy. He'll set fire to it.
barry
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Very good.
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Blackrat1299
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That's the home kit!
LukaMotion
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That's actually just the grave we buried David Bentley's career in. It didn't need to be very deep as you see.
scat1620
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He kicked a ball into that hole from the top of a nearby tower block. Still got the skillz to pay the billz.
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Lilbaz
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Spursidol
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Off video - Site previously offered to Archway Steel (500 WHL ?) will be used to provide employment/training, affordable housing etc.
I'd guess this is to help get more affordable housing into the overall project - even though its off the main project
I'd guess this is to help get more affordable housing into the overall project - even though its off the main project
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HotspurSam
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The Pre-Application brief to council took place on Thursday night. A link to the webcast recording follows. One item of interest is that the sliding pitch will be in three (3) sections and 'folded' under the South Stand.
The briefing starts at just over half way - when the models appear on tables in front of councillors
http://www.haringey.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/178411
Also
Link to Quality Review panels report on The New Stadium and the Development Management forum
http://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/Published/C00000728/M00007351/$$Supp18406dDocPackPublic.pdf
The briefing starts at just over half way - when the models appear on tables in front of councillors
http://www.haringey.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/178411
Also
Link to Quality Review panels report on The New Stadium and the Development Management forum
http://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/Published/C00000728/M00007351/$$Supp18406dDocPackPublic.pdf
THFCSPURS19
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Slightly worrying:
davidmatzdorf
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As I expected/predicted, most of the hostility and local concern is directed at the removal of the three locally-listed buildings.
The Allies and Morrison housing scheme attracts tentative praise and I certainly agree with the panel's desire not to permit an outline planning application, because the acceptability of housing on that large scale depends entirely on the quality of the detailed design. The panel is saying that the increased size of the housing scheme should not be approved in principle, only in full.
THFCSPURS19
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Are you able to answer my question about who the decision ultimately rests with- with regards to the removal of the listed buildings?
davidmatzdorf
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Not definitively. English Heritage are not in the habit of having their views contradicted. But there's an unresolved tension coming from the government (and the last government) between the obvious need to make it easier to develop - because of the impossibly obstructive planning system - and the desire to keep NIMBY and small-c-conservative anti-development campaigners mollified for electoral reasons.
As I understand it, EH can veto the removal of the listed buildings, but if the whole thing gets appealed to the Secretary of State, I don't know how much power/discretion she has to overrule that.
ginola99
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If the club is so serious about the stadium why don't they just put one application in for the stadium then, if approved, during works put in the application for the housing and other stuff?
Unless of course they plan to do it all at once instead of the phases as show cased in the previous scheme.
Unless of course they plan to do it all at once instead of the phases as show cased in the previous scheme.
davidmatzdorf
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It's conceivable that there is a backup plan that achieves the necessary crowd movements with the listed buildings left in place, but at higher cost. I'm not convinced. I have always inisted, since the original planning application was submitted, that the stadium capacity was mainly limited by the ability to get spectators safely in and out of the ground and the neighbourhood. I expected that the limiting factor would be public transport, but it turns out to be pedestrian movements.
If they could have found an inexpensive/uncontroversial way to deal with the problem, they would have done that instead. It's not as if there is a clear ulterior motive to remove the three buildings so they can replace them with valuable flats and make money.
The argument put forward in one of the comments that 60k spectators were safely accommodated many years ago is spurious. In those days, the large majority of fans were local and walked to the stadium from all directions, the High Rd was not awash in vehicular traffic and health and safety standards were much weaker.
davidmatzdorf
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A single planning application was what they did initially, several years ago. Now one phase has been built, the second phase is being amended and the third phase has to be submitted separately because it only had outline consent last time.
It's still an overall master-plan, more so now that the NDP is linked into the overall regeneration scheme.
I reckon that aspects of the revised stadium can only be delivered if the extra housing can be built (££ from sales), if the pedestrian movements issue can be resolved and if the retractable pitch is acceptable (££ from NFL).
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