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You know what Dillspur, his penny pinching hasn't worked against us.
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You know what Dillspur, his penny pinching hasn't worked against us.
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It's a figure of speech and you know it.
When he said that, did you genuinely believe that you were becoming part owner of the club? Or entitled to any rewards?
Or are you deliberately taking one sentence from the chairman to try and throw in the face of what is clearly the actual situation?
sloth
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Yes their contribution has been vital.
sloth
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Ask Villa fans how that went for them with Randy Lerner?
NEVILLEB
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Please understand that we know exactly what happens in modern football.
We simply don't agree with it.
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No
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please tell me you see the difference and are just being deliberately obtuse
sloth
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Ok, I'll ask you then. How do you think it's gone for Villa fans during the Lerner years, given they have a billionaire fan for an owner, who in his first few years spent money without considering the likely return on that investment, probably because he was a fan (could just be he was a bad business man), and now they have huge debts and are finishing regularly in the bottom half of the PL and can't find the money for the new and exciting players a club of their stature (same size as us) demands?
Lilbaz
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Tell me please apart from brand loyalty what is the difference?
To us it may feel different but not to the owners of spurs or tesco. You are a customer. I really don't get why that is so hard to understand.
This doesn't mean that levy doesn't want to be successful or win things or for spurs to be the best football club in the world. Ofcourse he wants that.
It has no effect on how much we love the club. But spurs like 99% of football clubs in this country is run as a business. That means they see you as a customer.
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You can't fault him for having a go, you could blame O'Neill for investing poorly
Lilbaz
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So how are you to know if your manager will invest wisley or waste your money? Or do you try and reduce the risk?
NEVILLEB
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Season ticket holders invest a lot of their money, time and emotional support into the club.
Those who benefit from others investment often reward those who showed loyalty and commitment along the way.
They respect and appreciate the sacrifices of others. They don't see them as 'just customers'.
Do I think the football at Tottenham has been worth £2000 a year to watch live over the past 3 years? No. So I greatly respect the fans who have trudged up and down the country to support the club anyway. Fans who pay one of the highest season ticket prices in the country. That is a massive commitment.
They want to watch exciting flair players and entertaining football.
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Obviously you try and reduce the risk, but he who dares rodders, he who dares my son!
Lilbaz
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Lilbaz
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Or you invest in stuff like the academy that will give much bigger rewards for less risk. Just will take longer.
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That went well for Dellboy too didn't it?
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You have $200m to invest, do you spend it on the academy and hope that in 5-10 years you're challenging, or bring in 4-5 world class players and start challenging immediately?
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So are you saying that if Levy and co promised you exciting flair players and entertaining football you'd be prepared to 'invest' more?
Of course not.
You are completely misunderstanding how our ownership works, I suspect deliberately, just to have yet another bash at ENIC.
If your preference is for some billionaire to come in and just spend shed loads of money for the pure love of it then I understand that. I doubt there are many people who wouldn't find that more exciting (albeit much much more risky).
But that's not what you are saying in this thread. You are somehow suggesting that because you pay to go and see Spurs, the owners should put in more money. And that those who pay a bigger percentage of their income should somehow get more from that 'investment'. It's complete codswallop and I suspect you know that.
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Soldado, Lamela, Paulinho, Capoue and Chiriches.
How did that do for our 'immediate' challenging?
Lilbaz
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First off we don't have $200m. We would invest that money in the academy over the 5 years.
If we wanted to buy $200m in "world class" players we'd have to borrow it. What about if those players turn out to be soldado, lamela, lallana, paulinho? We are now no better off as a team, we owe the bank $200m and we have to pay their wages. Basically next summer we will have to have a fire sale to pay our debts off. Now we are sinking down the league because we couldn't afford to replace the players we sold and have no academy. Next year the same but we get relegated.
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