Player Watch: Erik Lamela

Drexl · Aug 22, 2015

Agree, he is a 7-10m player that we got suckered in to paying £30m for, he is into his 3rd season here now and I see no real signs of improvement, sell sell sell

monkeynick · Aug 22, 2015

THFCSPURS19 said:
The poor results over the last few weeks had nothing to do with Lamela. That's fact. Yet he is blamed.

United game was Bentaleb's fault- he got criticism (too much IMO) and when Lamela played for 20 minutes and did 'OK', people rushed into the Lamela threads to bash him.

The draw against Stoke was largely down to Alderweireld's ridiculous decision to foul someone in the box when they had no chance of doing anything, and then our defence letting Diouf get a free header in our box. Lamela was very poor in that 30 minutes, but again, the result (due to Stoke's 2 goals) were not his fault.

And today, people are somehow blaming him when he wasn't even on the fucking pitch for either of the goals. It's fucking ridiculous. I'm not saying he played well, he didn't, but again, nothing negative results-wise that happened was his fault.

Our poor results over the last season and a bit have largely been down to awful defending. Lamela is not a defender. Anyone who blames him, or rushes down to these threads to criticise him immediately after the game, to make their first post-match comment, is being pathetic and childish. Scapegoating at it's finest- blaming a player for something he had no control over.

imo

That's what he's not doing, great.

Now tell me what he is contributing?

THFCSPURS19 · Aug 22, 2015

monkeynick said:
That's what he's not doing, great.

Now tell me what he is contributing?

Not much at the moment. Doesn't mean he should be scapegoated and blamed for things he can't control.

monkeynick · Aug 22, 2015

THFCSPURS19 said:
Not much at the moment. Doesn't mean he should be scapegoated and blamed for things he can't control.

Like a simple pass?

jezz · Aug 22, 2015

monkeynick said:
Like a simple pass?

How many passes do the whole eleven misplace today?
It's a simple question.

jezz · Aug 22, 2015

arunspurs said:
My opinion of Lamela is based from the minute he wore Spurs shirt to till date.
Now you are wrongly assuming things...

Really so now you don't want him sold?

monkeynick · Aug 22, 2015

jezz said:
How many passes do the whole eleven misplace today?
It's a simple question.

Simpler question. Do you think he's good?

poc · Aug 22, 2015

Hoddtastic72 said:
From what I saw of today's match Lamela seemed to be one of the few in the team really trying. At times he's a bit sloppy and I recall one occasion in the second half when passing backwards he gifted a great chance to Leicester. In truth I think he's lacking in match sharpness and still not really confident about playing in Premier League. I certainly think that his performance was no worse than a number of our players. Think many of our 'Fans' should get off his back and give him a bit of encouragement and support.

He always tries hard that certainly isn't an issue with him.

hakano · Aug 22, 2015

Drexl said:
Agree, he is a 7-10m player that we got suckered in to paying £30m for, he is into his 3rd season here now and I see no real signs of improvement, sell sell sell

Spot on but I'd be disappointed even at 7-10m. Doesn't look like It's going to happen for him in the PL does it.

jezz · Aug 22, 2015

monkeynick said:
Simpler question. Do you think he's good?

Yes
So did River Plate,Barcelona, Roma and Argentina.
You don't really expect me to suddenly say no because you think so.
I will take the opinion of all the coaches and professional people who have worked with him over yours no disrespect intended.
Plus the fact he has shown his ability in a Spurs shirt but not often enough imho.
But like our manager I won't judge on a couple of games this season.

I have answered your question in respectful way.
Could you answer mine now.

thebenjamin · Aug 22, 2015

jezz said:
Didn't someone just post he created 5 chances?
I haven't seen the game I'm just going on what's posted.

He put in some very nice corners but in general play the game completely passed him by.

jezz · Aug 22, 2015

thebenjamin said:
He put in some very nice corners but in general play the game completely passed him by.

Thanks I appreciate it

Johnny J · Aug 22, 2015

I'm all for backing players and giving them time, but if Lamela wasn't a 'big name', and cost us only a few million, he would still amount to a failure with us (so far).

I think everyone genuinely wants him to do well, but I also think that this is in large part based on the optimism that surely - surely - our record signing hasn't turned out to be a huge waste of money. I would be interested to see what Baldini got out of this overpriced transfer with his former club.

thebenjamin · Aug 22, 2015

Have to say I feel very sorry for the lad. He obviously is talented but he just looks completely out of his depth in this league.
There was a moment today when the ball dropped to him in space and he tried to cushion a lay off and he did an air shot and the ball hit his other leg and went straight to a Leicester player.

Then there was a simple 5 yard square ball that inexplicably missed it's target by some considerable distance and Dier had to take a booking to prevent the opposition scoring as a result.

The game just looks so difficult for him. Even the simple things. It's hard to see where any improvement is coming from because he doesn't have speed or strength to fall back on.

Shea · Aug 22, 2015

I think like Soldado was he's a talented player who simply isn't suited and isn't able to thrive in our league or more specifically with our club/system

I have pretty much lost all hope that he will ever become a good player for us now and I do believe it would be better for both his career and our team/squad if he were sold to Italy/Spain and replaced with someone who could make an impact in an epl game like Mahrez did today (which I don't think lamela will ever be able to do for us)

I like him, I've always wanted and expected big things from him based on what my romantic supporting cousin told me about him and I do appreciated his attitude and work rate but like Soldado the time has simply come where I no longer believe he will ever come good and I now think if we could sell and replace before the window closer it would be the best thing for all parties

Derp · Aug 22, 2015

thebenjamin said:
Have to say I feel very sorry for the lad. He obviously is talented but he just looks completely out of his depth in this league.
There was a moment today when the ball dropped to him in space and he tried to cushion a lay off and he did an air shot and the ball hit his other leg and went straight to a Leicester player.

Then there was a simple 5 yard square ball that inexplicably missed it's target by some considerable distance and Dier had to take a booking to prevent the opposition scoring as a result.

The game just looks so difficult for him. Even the simple things. It's hard to see where any improvement is coming from because he doesn't have speed or strength to fall back on.

I agree. It looks like the tempo in the premier league is just too fast for him. He would probably do a lot better in one of the other leagues where there is more time on the ball. It just seems to go too fast for him here and he ends up making the wrong decision more often than not.

Arthur Hucksake · Aug 22, 2015

I think he gets closed down quickly because he always receives the ball from the most predictable pass ever.

That Chadli sitter today was possible the first through ball we've played since Poch took over.

Predictable football will never get the best out of Lamela. He isn't a Kane type player who grafts his own luck.

SPURSLIFE · Aug 22, 2015

Arthur Hucksake said:
I think he gets closed down quickly because he always receives the ball from the most predictable pass ever.

That Chadli sitter today was possible the first through ball we've played since Poch took over.

Predictable football will never get the best out of Lamela. He isn't a Kane type player who grafts his own luck.

His supporters can keep coming up with reasons why he should be given a chance but this is his 3rd season and he still doesn't look a top player. What I have seen of Pritchard he is 100% a better player and he isn't the finished article yet by a long way.
The problem is nobody wants Lamella certainly not at anything near what we paid for him and we know Levy wont take a to big a hit so I'm sure Poch has been told to play him.
And that's another point I do think that Poch is a yes man and doesn't want to rock the boat and is probably one of the reasons we haven't got in the players we need. I'm sure that Van Gael, Mourinio, Pelligrini etc would have told their chairman who he must get in and early.

jezz · Aug 22, 2015

SPURSLIFE said:
His supporters can keep coming up with reasons why he should be given a chance but this is his 3rd season and he still doesn't look a top player. What I have seen of Pritchard he is 100% a better player and he isn't the finished article yet by a long way.
The problem is nobody wants Lamella certainly not at anything near what we paid for him and we know Levy wont take a to big a hit so I'm sure Poch has been told to play him.
And that's another point I do think that Poch is a yes man and doesn't want to rock the boat and is probably one of the reasons we haven't got in the players we need. I'm sure that Van Gael, Mourinio, Pelligrini etc would have told their chairman who he must get in and early.

I think you wear a tin foil hat, only opinion like yours.

keithtighe93 · Aug 22, 2015

how did he score 15 goals in Serie A jesus!!

i wanted him to make it as he is very likable and seems like a good lad but its just not gonna happen is it

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