Moussa Dembélé

daveduvet · Jan 22, 2016

Dinbych said:
It's factual statement, his playing time this season demonstrates that and just because you don't like does not make that any less true. I would love to see you explain how that is not the case.

As for acknowledging him being the best striker, well capitalising and bolding a word does not make that a fact, it is called an opinion and there is difference between two.

And lets for argument sake that he is their best striker, so what? We are talking about a pool of strikers that consists or Rondon and Lambert and they have a combined 7 goals to their name, it is hardly accolade of note is it?

The mistake you make is that you believe that these problems are unqiue to this season when in fact they are not. Pulis said in 2015 January window that he could go, the player was already showing disrespect at that point by refusing to celebrate his goals in his games and that is not even mentioning he is off-field antics which consisted of him being banned for drink driving as well as being caught taking nitrous oxide.

Berhaino had issues last season but still was able to score 16 goals so I don't see how his current ones (which are largely the same) are now all of a sudden the reason behind his poor form this season.

As for Peace, well Morgan Schneiderlin was in the exact same position as Berhaino the season before. His chairman went back on his world, the player went to twitter to air his views but unlike Berhaino he went on to have this best season in a Southampton shirt. That is the sign of a professional, it is the sign of the player with the right mentality, everything that Berahino is not. I find it amazing how willing so many are to find excuses for a player with a such poor attitude and now one with a poor performance record to go with that.

And if you think that striker that has 3 goals to his name in 17 games represents a player doing what is asked of him then you seriously need to revise how you evaluate players (you might also want to look at your debating skills whilst you are at it).

Like the length of your response but we'll never know the promises made or not to him. Me, I'd love him to sign; but I've now accepted it ain't gonna happen - a while back in fact. Totally non-plussed by all the news that surrounds him; although, as you can see I still check in on this thread

Sweech · Jan 22, 2016

Ledleys Knee said:
You don't play one of the best #9s in Europe out of position to accommodate a mediocre player like Berahino. Would Barca play Messi on the wing to get Arda in?

Ironic as both Argentina and Barca have moved Messi to the wing at times to accommodate different players.

CoopsieDeadpool · Jan 23, 2016

Dinbych said:
It's factual statement, his playing time this season demonstrates that and just because you don't like does not make that any less true. I would love to see you explain how that is not the case.

As for acknowledging him being the best striker, well capitalising and bolding a word does not make that a fact, it is called an opinion and there is difference between two.

And lets for argument sake that he is their best striker, so what? We are talking about a pool of strikers that consists or Rondon and Lambert and they have a combined 7 goals to their name, it is hardly accolade of note is it?

The mistake you make is that you believe that these problems are unqiue to this season when in fact they are not. Pulis said in 2015 January window that he could go, the player was already showing disrespect at that point by refusing to celebrate his goals in his games and that is not even mentioning he is off-field antics which consisted of him being banned for drink driving as well as being caught taking nitrous oxide.

Berhaino had issues last season but still was able to score 16 goals so I don't see how his current ones (which are largely the same) are now all of a sudden the reason behind his poor form this season.

As for Peace, well Morgan Schneiderlin was in the exact same position as Berhaino the season before. His chairman went back on his world, the player went to twitter to air his views but unlike Berhaino he went on to have this best season in a Southampton shirt. That is the sign of a professional, it is the sign of the player with the right mentality, everything that Berahino is not. I find it amazing how willing so many are to find excuses for a player with a such poor attitude and now one with a poor performance record to go with that.

And if you think that striker that has 3 goals to his name in 17 games represents a player doing what is asked of him then you seriously need to revise how you evaluate players (you might also want to look at your debating skills whilst you are at it).

Interesting. You post a War & Peace length response, ignore the facts about why Berahino isn't playing, and you prove you've not read anything I've posted on this thread, even the post that is in response to you.

So, I'll make it more simple for you. I don't want Berahino (which I've stated ad nauseum) , I don't like his lack of professionalism (which I've stated ad nauseum) , and I don't like the countless reports about a supposed bad attitude (which I've stated as nauseum) .

However, the reason he isn't playing for WBA, is not because he's not good enough to get into their team. It is because he doesn't suit the rugby tactics his manager uses, and he's a pawn in a twisted & selfish game, being played by Jeremy Peace. Full stop !!

As for the pointless mention of Schneiderlin, he continued to be played, and played to his full capacity because his manager needed him, and he was vital to how the team was set up. I can totally see how that's comparable to Berahino's situation

As for your pathetically patronising "(you might also want to look at your debating skills whilst you are at it)."... :ROFLMAO:

. .. You don't read what's posted in response to you, but you come out with that little gem

..

Note your posts, and then the responses to them. You're the only person with that opinion, and it's everyone else that's wrong :cautious:

Shadydan · Jan 23, 2016

Dinbych said:
It's factual statement, his playing time this season demonstrates that and just because you don't like does not make that any less true. I would love to see you explain how that is not the case.

As for acknowledging him being the best striker, well capitalising and bolding a word does not make that a fact, it is called an opinion and there is difference between two.

And lets for argument sake that he is their best striker, so what? We are talking about a pool of strikers that consists or Rondon and Lambert and they have a combined 7 goals to their name, it is hardly accolade of note is it?

The mistake you make is that you believe that these problems are unqiue to this season when in fact they are not. Pulis said in 2015 January window that he could go, the player was already showing disrespect at that point by refusing to celebrate his goals in his games and that is not even mentioning he is off-field antics which consisted of him being banned for drink driving as well as being caught taking nitrous oxide.

Berhaino had issues last season but still was able to score 16 goals so I don't see how his current ones (which are largely the same) are now all of a sudden the reason behind his poor form this season.

As for Peace, well Morgan Schneiderlin was in the exact same position as Berhaino the season before. His chairman went back on his world, the player went to twitter to air his views but unlike Berhaino he went on to have this best season in a Southampton shirt. That is the sign of a professional, it is the sign of the player with the right mentality, everything that Berahino is not. I find it amazing how willing so many are to find excuses for a player with a such poor attitude and now one with a poor performance record to go with that.

And if you think that striker that has 3 goals to his name in 17 games represents a player doing what is asked of him then you seriously need to revise how you evaluate players (you might also want to look at your debating skills whilst you are at it).

Post full of shit and condescending too

Hoddle&Waddle · Jan 23, 2016

Shadydan said:
Post full of shit and condescending too

As opposed to your post which is just insulting?

Dinbych · Jan 23, 2016

coopsieyid said:
Interesting. You post a War & Peace length response, ignore the facts about why Berahino isn't playing, and you prove you've not read anything I've posted on this thread, even the post that is in response to you.

So, I'll make it more simple for you. I don't want Berahino (which I've stated ad nauseum) , I don't like his lack of professionalism (which I've stated ad nauseum) , and I don't like the countless reports about a supposed bad attitude (which I've stated as nauseum) .

However, the reason he isn't playing for WBA, is not because he's not good enough to get into their team. It is because he doesn't suit the rugby tactics his manager uses, and he's a pawn in a twisted & selfish game, being played by Jeremy Peace. Full stop !!

As for the pointless mention of Schneiderlin, he continued to be played, and played to his full capacity because his manager needed him, and he was vital to how the team was set up. I can totally see how that's comparable to Berahino's situation

As for your pathetically patronising "(you might also want to look at your debating skills whilst you are at it)."... . .. You don't read what's posted in response to you, but you come out with that little gem ..

Note your posts, and then the responses to them. You're the only person with that opinion, and it's everyone else that's wrong

I couldn't care less if you don't want Berahino, I'm not sure why you keep referencing that, it's completely irrelevant to this but for some strange reason you seem to this gives credence to your other arguments when it doesn't.

And the irony here is you highlight the very point that you are guilty of, my statement not even directed at you, was that Berahino, a player with 3 goals to his name, who cannot get into an average side is not a player who is ready to come in and start scoring goals for us.

The poster I was replying to stated that he was hence my response but instead of actually reading and understanding that you chose to go off a complete tangent about how him being West Brom's best striker and his issues this season.

But as you brought up that point it is clear that you have concocted your own narrative on this, attempted to make this a statement of fact by capitalising and bolding and done all of this by completely ignoring the fact that those issues were there last season.

Pulis was there for half a season last year, he came out to the press and stated that Berahino could go last January (which clearly a different position to his chairman), the player refused celebrate his goals in a game when he was being heavily linked with Liverpool and had a number of issues of the field such as his drink driving ban. So none of this is new, if anything the player had more issues last season than he does this season and yet he had a far superior goal tally than he does now.
Maybe just maybe his form this season is a result of a young player struggling to follow up a breakthough season which we have seen with a number of players over the years?

And I do love the notion that because I am the only person to hold this view (I somehow doubt that) then it must be me who is wrong. What wonderful logic you have there.

whatislifewithoutspurs · Jan 23, 2016

Let's stick to the topic and talk about Dembele and not Berahino (y)

Since coming back from injury he's been so important to our gameplay. We need to tie him down to a new contract if this form continues!

jonnboy · Jan 23, 2016

whatislifewithoutspurs said:
Let's stick to the topic and talk about Dembele and not Berahino Since coming back from injury he's been so important to our gameplay. We need to tie him down to a new contract if this form continues!

I think this is the Fulham dembele thread lol

diamond lights · Jan 23, 2016

whatislifewithoutspurs said:
Let's stick to the topic and talk about Dembele and not Berahino Since coming back from injury he's been so important to our gameplay. We need to tie him down to a new contract if this form continues!

This thread is about Moussa Dembele not Mousa Dembele

whatislifewithoutspurs · Jan 23, 2016

Well to the above two posts obviously I meant it as a joke

Sweech · Jan 23, 2016

whatislifewithoutspurs said:
Well to the above two posts obviously I meant it as a joke

Obviously

Hoopspur · Jan 23, 2016

So there is some dodgy UAITK saying that this is just about 'done and dusted' and it doesn't find it's way in here? It's ok though because we can chat about Berahino a little more instead....

Edit - Oh and I was referring to this for anyone that has not seen it...

Joined: 02 September 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 372
Topic: Dembele, the other one
Posted: 20 January 2016 at 4:45pm

A man at UA told me it was all done. He doesn't work in the football dept. He did say he would give me a free season ticket if he was wrong

Sweech · Jan 23, 2016

Hoopspur said:
So there is some dodgy UAITK saying that this is just about 'done and dusted' and it doesn't find it's way in here? It's ok though because we can chat about Berahino a little more instead....

Edit - Oh and I was referring to this for anyone that has not seen it...

Joined: 02 September 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 372
Topic: Dembele, the other one
Posted: 20 January 2016 at 4:45pm

A man at UA told me it was all done. He doesn't work in the football dept. He did say he would give me a free season ticket if he was wrong

It's been through the ITK thread.

I can neither confirm nor deny if UA stands for "Under Armour".

Hoopspur · Jan 23, 2016

Sweech said:
It's been through the ITK thread.

I can neither confirm nor deny if UA stands for "Under Armour".

Deja vu all over again?

CoopsieDeadpool · Jan 23, 2016

Dinbych said:
I couldn't care less if you don't want Berahino, I'm not sure why you keep referencing that, it's completely irrelevant to this but for some strange reason you seem to this gives credence to your other arguments when it doesn't.

And the irony here is you highlight the very point that you are guilty of, my statement not even directed at you, was that Berahino, a player with 3 goals to his name, who cannot get into an average side is not a player who is ready to come in and start scoring goals for us.

The poster I was replying to stated that he was hence my response but instead of actually reading and understanding that you chose to go off a complete tangent about how him being West Brom's best striker and his issues this season.

But as you brought up that point it is clear that you have concocted your own narrative on this, attempted to make this a statement of fact by capitalising and bolding and done all of this by completely ignoring the fact that those issues were there last season.

Pulis was there for half a season last year, he came out to the press and stated that Berahino could go last January (which clearly a different position to his chairman), the player refused celebrate his goals in a game when he was being heavily linked with Liverpool and had a number of issues of the field such as his drink driving ban. So none of this is new, if anything the player had more issues last season than he does this season and yet he had a far superior goal tally than he does now.
Maybe just maybe his form this season is a result of a young player struggling to follow up a breakthough season which we have seen with a number of players over the years?

And I do love the notion that because I am the only person to hold this view (I somehow doubt that) then it must be me who is wrong. What wonderful logic you have there.

No, it's you that is wrong.

You are repeatedly stating that Berahino isn't playing for WBA because he's not good enough. You then write loads of unnecessary bollocks.

The reason Berahino is not playing for WBA, is absolutely nothing at all to do with his ability, or lack of it, as you continue to incorrectly spout.

The whole world knows this, yet you, for some unfathomable reason, keep trying to rewrite the facts.

millsey · Jan 23, 2016

Am at Fulham game today and Dembele starting.
Will feed back after game

millsey · Jan 23, 2016

Ten mins into game. My word Dembele is lazy. Walks around pitch,
Hands under his sleeves. Fan I'm with says he never runs

millsey · Jan 23, 2016

Scouting report on. Dembele was
Complete pants. Weak, lazy, walking round pitch.
Ok touch, not a single shot on target. I don't think he will
Come in and do a job this season

Trix · Jan 23, 2016

Everything agreed, just Fulham waiting on replacements

millsey said:
Scouting report on. Dembele was
Complete pants. Weak, lazy, walking round pitch.
Ok touch, not a single shot on target. I don't think he will
Come in and do a job this season

Perhaps he is doing his utmost not to pick up an injury.

sidford · Jan 23, 2016

Trix said:
Everything agreed, just Fulham waiting on replacements

Perhaps he is doing his utmost not to pick up an injury.

Thanks trix.

Any mention of a loan back?

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