Summer Transfer Wish List

DaSpurs · Apr 15, 2016

wiggo24 said:
Oh, I agree about that, but I think players, especially young ones with potential (ie our current targets), now have more career advisors and, even if they did watch Liverpool as kids, they'll eventually choose us for their career - particularly with the London factor.

Eg - Sigurdsson, Alli (to an extent, could've kicked up a fuss to join Liverpool (his boyhood club))

Oh yeah, I do think you're right that things are very different from even five years ago, and for the exact reasons you're citing. I just meant to point out that I think that we're seeing the tail end of a generation who grew up viewing Liverpool as a significantly larger club than Spurs, and that for now players might still view Liverpool as a more desirable place to go, but that I believe that that discrepancy will rapidly change in the coming years.

Lighty64 · Apr 15, 2016

brasil_spur said:
And yes you can, that's what a squad is for. In fact even in a lean 22 man squad that's exactly enough for 1 cover player for each of your main starting 11 players.

At the moment though, assuming Poch only wanted to have a squad of 22 players we have:

GK: LLoris | Vorm
RB: Walker | Trippier
RCB: Toby | ?
LCB: Jan | Wimmer
LB: Rose | Davies
DM: Dier | ?
CM: Dembele | Bentaleb
AM: Lamela | Chadli / Clinton
AM: Alli | Mason
AM: Erikssen | Son
ST: Kane | ?

Then you have Carroll (CM), Onomah (AM), Winks (CM) and Pritchard (AM), although Onomah and Winks technically can be outside the 22 man squad.

For me though that's 3 clear positions in the 22 man squad we need to fill. Also we have two players for one role in Chadli and Clinton. However i think it would be worth holding on to both or replacing one of them with an upgraded player if possible.

Assuming we hang on Pritchard this season then that would take the squad up to 24 players in total plus Onomah and Winks.

I'm only going by what someone else posted to me awhile back, not sure where though, but Onomah his best position in CM, think 1 of the U21 experts posted.

the trouble with your list though, it doesn't cover when Walker & Trippier are both injured, hence why I posted you can't just sign players for WHEN an injury happens.

what we need is to try and make sure that when we name a starting XI, we need a strong bench too. a striker and possibly hope 1 of our U21's strikers can step up if needed or sign a free Dembele from Fulham as extra cover, though none of us really know what Clinton can do once off the injury table and hopefully getting more starting time. and ideally cover for Dier, someone that can also play RCB too

wiggo24 · Apr 15, 2016

DaSpurs said:
Oh yeah, I do think you're right that things are very different from even five years ago, and for the exact reasons you're citing. I just meant to point out that I think that we're seeing the tail end of a generation who grew up viewing Liverpool as a significantly larger club than Spurs, and that for now players might still view Liverpool as a more desirable place to go, but that I believe that that discrepancy will rapidly change in the coming years.

Very true - we're in an odd place right now in that I genuinely believe we're one of the best few clubs in the world for a young player to join.

Good size club (successful, but without too much pressure), young team, a coach who improves players and shows faith in youth, superb training facilities - and a new stadium on the way.

alexis · Apr 15, 2016

wiggo24 said:
Think the London factor is bigger than most people realise.

Don't think any educated, young player would go to them over us right now tbh - as long as they've got decent advisors.

Klopp factor enough to get some good players from germany who will make a difference

Sweech · Apr 15, 2016

alexis said:
Klopp factor enough to get some good players from germany who will make a difference

Can't contest for the ones City+Guardiola want.

alexis · Apr 15, 2016

wiggo24 said:
Oh, I agree about that, but I think players, especially young ones with potential (ie our current targets), now have more career advisors and, even if they did watch Liverpool as kids, they'll eventually choose us for their career - particularly with the London factor.

Eg - Sigurdsson, Alli (to an extent, could've kicked up a fuss to join Liverpool (his boyhood club))

We are exciting right now and we are on the cusp of maybe some great things, but we were last in the CL 10/11 we really dont have a great recent history. Poch is the difference and we have a chance of creating a lasting dynasty. Liverpool have had more recent CL success than us, have more revenue therefore higher wages and then the Klopp factor. Money talks for a lot of these players and the wages pool will offer will be greater than us. Also pool tend to pay higher transfer fees and we still have a stadium to build. Whilst i agree London is a pull some of their targets will think liverpool ok especially with the money difference. 2 years of CL and we will see spurs create a greater pull.

luptic · Apr 15, 2016

All i want is that once CL league football is secured, we are pro active in our hunt for targets, ideally getting them in before pre-season. None of this waiting about nonsense we have had to endure in previous windows.

voxy28 · Apr 15, 2016

Riechedly Bazoer believed to be a target for Spurs mentioned by Mail.... would be a good addition.

THOWIG · Apr 15, 2016

voxy28 said:
Riechedly Bazoer believed to be a target for Spurs mentioned by Mail.... would be a good addition.

We can only dream.

voxy28 · Apr 15, 2016

THOWIG said:
We can only dream.

I use him a lot in Fifa 16 ... lol great tackler

Another article says Feghouli is on our radar... I also sign him on free for spurs for fifa 16. :LOL:

Sweech · Apr 15, 2016

Not sure Feghouli is a fit for the team personality wise.

Nigel Spinal · Apr 15, 2016

brasil_spur said:
And yes you can, that's what a squad is for. In fact even in a lean 22 man squad that's exactly enough for 1 cover player for each of your main starting 11 players.

At the moment though, assuming Poch only wanted to have a squad of 22 players we have:

GK: LLoris | Vorm
RB: Walker | Trippier
RCB: Toby | ?
LCB: Jan | Wimmer
LB: Rose | Davies
DM: Dier | ?
CM: Dembele | Bentaleb
AM: Lamela | Chadli / Clinton
AM: Alli | Mason
AM: Erikssen | Son
ST: Kane | ?

Then you have Carroll (CM), Onomah (AM), Winks (CM) and Pritchard (AM), although Onomah and Winks technically can be outside the 22 man squad.

For me though that's 3 clear positions in the 22 man squad we need to fill. Also we have two players for one role in Chadli and Clinton. However i think it would be worth holding on to both or replacing one of them with an upgraded player if possible.

Assuming we hang on Pritchard this season then that would take the squad up to 24 players in total plus Onomah and Winks.

Japhet · Apr 15, 2016

Nigel Spinal said:
GK: Lloris | Vorm
RB: Walker | Trippier
CB: Alder | 2CV
CB: Verts | Wimmer
LB: Rose | Davies
CM: Dier | Bentaleb
CM: Dembele | Mason
AM: Lamela | Njie
AM: Alli | Eriksen
AM: Son | Chadli
ST: Kane | TBC

+ Carroll, Pritchard, Onomah, Winks

is pretty much a perfect 22

Lose Fazio, Yedlin, maybe Carroll and/or Chadli. Add in Kane's understudy. And we are there.

Bentaleb isn't cover for Dier. We need a defensive minded CM. Not sure how CCV is cover for Toby having played precisely zero minutes at the top level.

Nigel Spinal · Apr 15, 2016

Japhet said:
Bentaleb isn't cover for Dier. We need a defensive minded CM. Not sure how CCV is cover for Toby having played precisely zero minutes at the top level.

Bentaleb is very capable in that role, he's just been injured all this season.

This is new Spurs. We're not going to buy more crap filler 4th CBs like Fazio and Chiriches. 2CV is the real deal. I'm pretty confident he'll be fasttracked to 4th CB next season.

brasil_spur · Apr 15, 2016

Lighty64 said:
but even WHEN we get those injuries, it doesn't mean they won't happen to an area we are not over strong with in cover. @Trix 1 of our ITK has already said there won't be major ins and outs.

I'm not suggesting major ins and outs.

I'm suggesting:

CB - back-up cover for Toby, could be a cheap player or even better would be a loan deal for a year whilst CCV gets some regular first team action out on loan in the PL and is then ready for us next season.

DM - back-up cover and rotationfor Dier.

ST - back-up cover and rotation for Kane.

brasil_spur · Apr 15, 2016

Lighty64 said:
the trouble with your list though, it doesn't cover when Walker & Trippier are both injured, hence why I posted you can't just sign players for WHEN an injury happens.

Jesus, i'm not saying we need 3 players for each position, just two. It's pretty simple really - imagine that we only had Walker and not Trippier (or Yedlin) - what happens if hegets injured? Well we could of course player Dier there, but IMO we need a second player for that role. Same applies IMO for RCB.

brasil_spur · Apr 15, 2016

Nigel Spinal said:
GK: Lloris | Vorm
RB: Walker | Trippier
CB: Alder | 2CV
CB: Verts | Wimmer
LB: Rose | Davies
CM: Dier | Bentaleb
CM: Dembele | Mason
AM: Lamela | Njie
AM: Alli | Eriksen
AM: Son | Chadli
ST: Kane | TBC

+ Carroll, Pritchard, Onomah, Winks

is pretty much a perfect 22

Lose Fazio, Yedlin, maybe Carroll and/or Chadli. Add in Kane's understudy. And we are there.

if you think that squad can seriously contend for the PL, CL and domestic cups next season then fair enough, but for me that squad wouldn't cut it.

Japhet · Apr 15, 2016

Nigel Spinal said:
Bentaleb is very capable in that role, he's just been injured all this season.

This is new Spurs. We're not going to buy more crap filler 4th CBs like Fazio and Chiriches. 2CV is the real deal. I'm pretty confident he'll be fasttracked to 4th CB next season.

Fine, if that's you're opinion. Mine, for what it's worth, is that the previous season with Bentaleb in the DM role, we were like a barn door blowing in the breeze defensively. Granted, we didn't have Toby and we weren't pressing well from the front, but even so, in CM we were powder puff weak and our goal difference bore it out. Opponents don't get at our CBs through the middle any more. If anyone is going to step up to cover Dier it will be Dominic Ball but I think we're more likely to buy. 2CV may well be 'the real deal' at his current level but I guess we'll just wait and see.

Nigel Spinal · Apr 15, 2016

brasil_spur said:
if you think that squad can seriously contend for the PL, CL and domestic cups next season then fair enough, but for me that squad wouldn't cut it.

It's already doing so (bar 4-5 clubs, EL and CL are the same quality).

A stable summer, players a year more experienced, a pre-season without disruption and we'll be awesome next year.

Especially with Chelsea/United/City in their cycles of disruption and decline.

Nigel Spinal · Apr 15, 2016

Japhet said:
Fine, if that's you're opinion. Mine, for what it's worth, is that the previous season with Bentaleb in the DM role, we were like a barn door blowing in the breeze defensively. Granted, we didn't have Toby and we weren't pressing well from the front, but even so, in CM we were powder puff weak and our goal difference bore it out. Opponents don't get at our CBs through the middle any more. If anyone is going to step up to cover Dier it will be Dominic Ball but I think we're more likely to buy. 2CV may well be 'the real deal' at his current level but I guess we'll just wait and see.

Bentaleb was playing in front of a defence consisting Chiriches at RB and Fazio at CB, while our AMs hadn't sussed pressing from the front yet. IMO that's had a far far great impact on our defending than Dier vs Bentaleb.

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