Summer Transfer Wish List

[THFCSPURS19]

I know O.Dembele has a good reputation and has talent but for me, he's greedy, doesn't play the pass to people in better positions and doesn't come across as being a clever player more instinctive.

Personally I'm not that impressed with how he plays and would be looking elsewhere for the money being talked about.

Most youngsters are greedy.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I think I've (and others have) been guilty of getting too excited because it's likely we'll have CL football (and more money).

 

[danielneeds]

Guess a lot of clubs will be looking at him now, but watching a bit of Bakambu for Villarreal last night - he looks a real handful. Very, very strong.

 

[Lighty64]

I made the same point re CCV/Toby a few pages back but didn't find many takers for it. Glad someone agrees.

As we've seen with Onomah, Pochettino makes a point of intergrating youngsters VERY slowly and methodically. I don't see why it would be different with CCV - even more so given the importance of the position he plays in.

if we can get a bit of a run in the CoC, CCV will get playing time, he might even get it anyway as that will be the 4th choice in priorities in competition, plus if he is fit enough I'm sure he will be involved in some of our preseason friendlies, even against tougher opposition

 

[nightgoat]

Dortmund are not as good as you think, they drew with Schalke and Liverpool recently.

Barcelona are not as good as you think, they lost to Real Sociedad recently.

Bayern Munich are not as good as you think, they lost to Mainz recently.

PSG are not as good as you think, they drew with Montpellier recently.

Juventus are not as good as you think, they drew with Bologna recently.

Etc etc etc.

 

[Rod101]

No need to apologise. I didn't dispute any of the above. I just think we're a more exciting prospect who could certainly attract players over Liverpool. Also don't think they will have CL football next season. I guess it depends what is important to those players

I think there's some lilywhite tinted glasses there. And I definitely don't blame you for that and you're definitely right that Spurs are an exciting prospect for most players. However, Liverpool, as much as I loathe to admit this (I really, really dislike them intensely), are a huge club. Mostly based on history from the '70's and '80's, but they've recently won the CL too, have a global fan base to almost rival Man Utd and their finances are better than ours.

If a player has a straight choice between us and them (same squad status, wages etc) I think they choose them. Big club, seen to be competitive (even if falsely), Klopp is a major asset here too, lots of money, a huge stage to perform on with that global fan base and they're a media favourite with a bigger profile than Spurs.

If Spurs are in the CL and they aren't, we have a chance of persuading players to come to us instead, sell them on the project, Poch, the exciting opportunities, youthful squad etc. But if both clubs are in the CL, I don't think many players would choose us over them. And it really does pain me to type that. To leapfrog them, I think we'll need to win the PL and get regular CL for a few years at least and improve the finances appropriately.

 

[crokey]

Dunno where the confusion is, Bentaleb is more than good enough to play for Tottenham

 

[Shadydan]

I think there's some lilywhite tinted glasses there. And I definitely don't blame you for that and you're definitely right that Spurs are an exciting prospect for most players. However, Liverpool, as much as I loathe to admit this (I really, really dislike them intensely), are a huge club. Mostly based on history from the '70's and '80's, but they've recently won the CL too, have a global fan base to almost rival Man Utd and their finances are better than ours.

If a player has a straight choice between us and them (same squad status, wages etc) I think they choose them. Big club, seen to be competitive (even if falsely), Klopp is a major asset here too, lots of money, a huge stage to perform on with that global fan base and they're a media favourite with a bigger profile than Spurs.

If Spurs are in the CL and they aren't, we have a chance of persuading players to come to us instead, sell them on the project, Poch, the exciting opportunities, youthful squad etc. But if both clubs are in the CL, I don't think many players would choose us over them. And it really does pain me to type that. To leapfrog them, I think we'll need to win the PL and get regular CL for a few years at least and improve the finances appropriately.

Siguardsson actually chose us over Liverpool and I'm sure I heard that we gazumped Liverpool over Willian...but then we got gazumped by Chelsea

 

[gazzeh]

One game. Jesus. Lets ignore the excellent whole season he had with rooky Dier/Chiriches/Vertonghen and an ill disciplined front four containing Townsend and Chadli for much of it.

I was using an example. Each time i've seen Bentaleb this season, he's looked lackadaisical and cocky. He's a good player with a lot of talent, he just need to use it properly. He's definitely not anywhere near Diers' level of tactical awareness yet.

 

[whitelanefever]

Guess a lot of clubs will be looking at him now, but watching a bit of Bakambu for Villarreal last night - he looks a real handful. Very, very strong.

His hold-up play & movement is very good

 

[lol]

dont know if anyone had mentioned him yet, but my dm cover for dier is krychowiak

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I was using an example. Each time i've seen Bentaleb this season, he's looked lackadaisical and cocky. He's a good player with a lot of talent, he just need to use it properly. He's definitely not anywhere near Diers' level of tactical awareness yet.

Dier also had a bad game against ManU (gave a similarly bad pass away that went unpunished) and it seems to have gone unconsidered that pkaying 20yo Bentaleb next to a 21yo roomy CB playing his first games as cm was hardly going to be conducive to Bentaleb looking great either.

Bentsleb is better at other things than Dier, such as passing progressively, showing for the ball under pressure and moving with it.

It's a shame the partnership wasn't allowed (for various reasons, some out of the control of any of those concerned) to develop because I think their skill sets are quite complimentary (like say, Wanyama and Schniederlin).

 

[Annekcma]

Dier also had a bad game against ManU (gave a similarly bad pass away that went unpunished) and it seems to have gone unconsidered that pkaying 20yo Bentaleb next to a 21yo roomy CB playing his first games as cm was hardly going to be conducive to Bentaleb looking great either.

Bentsleb is better at other things than Dier, such as passing progressively, showing for the ball under pressure and moving with it.

It's a shame the partnership wasn't allowed (for various reasons, some out of the control of any of those concerned) to develop because I think their skill sets are quite complimentary (like say, Wanyama and Schniederlin).

Is that not indicating that he is more suited to play alongside a dedicated defensive midfielder such as Dier? So Bentaleb would be more in competition with Dembele for example. Which would mean we still need somebody who can step in for Dier.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Is that not indicating that he is more suited to play alongside a dedicated defensive midfielder such as Dier? So Bentaleb would be more in competition with Dembele for example. Which would mean we still need somebody who can step in for Dier.

That's what I said.

 

[Rod101]

Siguardsson actually chose us over Liverpool and I'm sure I heard that we gazumped Liverpool over Willian...but then we got gazumped by Chelsea

Fair enough. I just don't think those examples representative of where the two teams are currently. And there'll always be players that might prefer us over them for some reason. Perhaps Siggy and Willian were told they'd be squad players there, whilst first choices with us. Who knows. I just think that generally, more players will choose them over us due to money and prestige etc if we're both in the CL. As I said, if we have a couple of years of sustained success, sneak a PL win, or a CL win, then all bets will be off.

 

[danielneeds]

dont know if anyone had mentioned him yet, but my dm cover for dier is krychowiak

Sevilla looking for a big cash for him to sell. Arsenal were very interested last summer. Wouldn't be under £25m I think.

 

[Japhet]

I was using an example. Each time i've seen Bentaleb this season, he's looked lackadaisical and cocky. He's a good player with a lot of talent, he just need to use it properly. He's definitely not anywhere near Diers' level of tactical awareness yet.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but he is not, and never has been a defensive midfielder. He used to play a much more offensive role before he got into the first XI.

 

[Japhet]

Dier also had a bad game against ManU (gave a similarly bad pass away that went unpunished) and it seems to have gone unconsidered that pkaying 20yo Bentaleb next to a 21yo roomy CB playing his first games as cm was hardly going to be conducive to Bentaleb looking great either.

Bentsleb is better at other things than Dier, such as passing progressively, showing for the ball under pressure and moving with it.

It's a shame the partnership wasn't allowed (for various reasons, some out of the control of any of those concerned) to develop because I think their skill sets are quite complimentary (like say, Wanyama and Schniederlin).

Would you have had Bentaleb ahead of Dembele because that's what it would have taken to give him game time?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Would you have had Bentaleb ahead of Dembele because that's what it would have taken to give him game time?

Yes. With a more disciplined and robust partner like Dier, yes.

 

[lol]

Sevilla looking for a big cash for him to sell. Arsenal were very interested last summer. Wouldn't be under £25m I think.

agree. thats about the right price for a proven player of his quality. hes entering his prime and his contract ends at 18/19, so i guess if he moves in 1 to 2 years time that will be his final big pay day. i will definitely use CL to attract him now, a 15 rising up to 25m deal is actually not a bad deal. Im sure there are still steals out there that i dont not know of, but krychowiak is just a proven player that i know of.

Hes someone that i believe can be swapped straight for dier with no loss of quality. a long term injury to dier will be devastating to both our league and CL campaign next year. we should be looking at someone whos just as good as dier, instead of a cover. whoever that is less in form shall be the cover, but both should always be quality.