dynamoSpurs
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Fucking neville the ass hole
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What the pundits & media are saying about us
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BringBack_leGin
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Probably shouldn't be using a word like that on a forum mate, you may be causing huge insult to a lot of people (without intending). Should probably edit (and I'll delete this post too so that it's not repeated).
Gb160
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Classy post.
StartingPrice
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Edward Freedman, life long Spurs fan and Head of Merchandising at White Hart Lane - is the guru I was referring to.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I have no knowledge of any bonus promised to Freedman and reneged on by Sugar. Where did you get that from?
I got my view of things from, among other places, Manchester Unlimited by Mihir Bose. Particularly the chapter, The Man from Tottenham which is all about Edward Freedman, the circumstances of his joining United, and the job that he did.
This is the most relevant passage, pages 184 - 185:
"Venables became chief executive of Tottenham Hotspur plc and and brought with him as his financial advisor a man called Eddie Ashby. Freedman soon found that the Venables regime had a rotten core. He could not work with Venables and, in particular, Ashby who, despite being a bankrupt had major executive responsibility at Tottenham under Venables. Ashby's business record prior to joining Tottenham as Venables' right-hand man showed that he had been a director of 43 companies, 16 of which were in receivership, eight in liquidation and 15 were struck off. By 1993, Venables' relationship with Sugar was at breaking point due to his refusal to sack Ashby...".
Maybe I shouldn't have referred to Ashby as one of Venables' Scribes West cronies, as I don't know that that was where they met or associated - but I do think Ashby was involved with Scribes West in some way. And he was the main reason according to Bose that Freedman was seriously pissed off in his job at the club he had supported all his life.
p.s. Something tells me that after the Scholar debacle, we needed that crew like we needed a hole in the head, TBH.
Indeed. Some folk do not appreciate just how much we really were streets ahead of United in regard to financing and merchandising at the time. Freedman only went to Old Trafford in the first place to give United a talk (for free, apparently!). He says, page 186: " ...I went up to see it. I knew they were underperforming. I had no idea we at Tottenham could sell our expertise to other clubs and show them how to be as successful as Tottenham. We were the best in the field..."
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For the love of Spurs
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Wouldn't read too much into it, curious though what defines a big enough club for him. City are historically smaller than us but they won the lottery, so had we won the lottery would Neville still be of the same opinion.
Also does Neville realise that at one time even Preston North End where a big club, things aren't stationary. Back in the early 90's Chelsea, West Ham, Man City where IMO smallish team, West Ham still are. Does he not realise maybe it's our time to become big, we could be big enough for Poch because he he will make us big enough.
Also does Neville realise that at one time even Preston North End where a big club, things aren't stationary. Back in the early 90's Chelsea, West Ham, Man City where IMO smallish team, West Ham still are. Does he not realise maybe it's our time to become big, we could be big enough for Poch because he he will make us big enough.
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Johnny J
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Quite a bit of praise on the Sunday Supplement this morning, though somewhat irritating to hear one of the pundits - Charlie Wyett I believe - say that City were "due a blip". Yes, of course they were. That's what everyone was saying before we played them.
Wait, no it wasn't. Everyone was furiously touching themselves at the prospect of City not only getting the record for consecutive wins, but going the whole bloody season unbeaten. Shows what fucking pundits know.
Wait, no it wasn't. Everyone was furiously touching themselves at the prospect of City not only getting the record for consecutive wins, but going the whole bloody season unbeaten. Shows what fucking pundits know.
beats1
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Problem is the likes of Newcastle and West Ham are 17th and 20th in that respect, I wouldn't class them as a big club
Trix
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They became the games commercial giant because they kept winning everything, not because of some marketing exec, regardless of how good he was. Fergie is the absolute reason for Yanited being where they are today, everyone else was just a far smaller cog in the Manchester United machine and easily replaceable. OWF on the other hand was not.
Wirral Spurs
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Manchester United became the biggest (or most famous) club in the world after Munich in 58. It, understandably elevated them in the eyes of a global audience and they never really looked back, even when they were dreadful at the end of the 70's. I quite like Neville and I understand what he is saying. The modern game has super clubs that can afford the most expensive players and compete in the Champions League to win it. Barca, Real Madrid and Bayern are who he is referring to and I suppose you could include City and United as they certainly have the funds (maybe even Chelsea and Goons but I hate to say it). He has a typical view of the Sky era pundit who forgets history and presumes we only think about football after '92. I think (hope) Poch is different in that he shies away from the mega ego brigade to focus on a project that he can control. Saying that he did leave Southampton pretty easily. Best just to enjoy the change in our culture and hopefully modify our DNA to become sporting challengers whilst he is here.
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But wasn't that because he was given certain assurances and promises which was then negated on? I could be wrong but thought this was the case
yido_number1
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To add to that his style doesn't lend it self to the mega clubs and galacticos. He is the epitome of the team ahead of the individual.
I'd say as long as he is backed to keep improving both the club and the squad he will be happy with us. If for whatever reason we show a lack of ambition and want to sell players or not keep building then maybe he will question things.
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The Scarecrow
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I think he wanted to leave along with Cortese, but opted to stick around for the remainder of the season.
Wirral Spurs
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Possibly, not sure. My point was that whatever happened at Southampton could easily happen with us and he left there pretty rapidly. Not saying it will obviously and sincerely hope it doesn't, he is perfect for us right now.
Shadydan
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Won't happen unless Levy decides to havea fire sale and decides to sell Kane, Alderweireld, Eriksen, Lloris and Delli Alli next season, nah can's see it either
longtimespur
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Do you people think of things to worry about just for the angst it gives you
Is there not enough going on in the world without making things up about Poch and thfc. ?????
Is there not enough going on in the world without making things up about Poch and thfc. ?????
worcestersauce
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Exactly! They just shut down his project so he had no reason to stay.Won't happen unless Levy decides to havea fire sale and decides to sell Kane, Alderweireld, Eriksen, Lloris and Delli Alli next season, nah can's see it either
