What the pundits & media are saying about us

[am_yisrael_chai]

Let's not be silly. Their worldwide fanbase is far bigger than ours. No shame in admitting that, and it's an issue that can be worked on.

Their worldwide fan base doesn't drive their revenues, that is driven by their match day revenues and sponsorship. So I will repeat that once we have the new stadium there is no reason we can't match them. Of course if we get a full NFL franchise using the stadium then NONE of all our football rivals will see us for dust.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Match day revenues, yes, but they're the tail, not the dog. The international brand-related, marketing, tie-in and merchandising revenues should also climb, if we can turn this current wonderful squad, high-quality academy and brilliant manager into sustained on-pitch success. Even then, it will take 5 years or more to build our international profile up to the level where it can compete with Arsenal et al.

You are ignoring the NFL tie in or discounting it massively and you really shouldn't.

 

[danielneeds]

Their worldwide fan base doesn't drive their revenues, that is driven by their match day revenues and sponsorship. So I will repeat that once we have the new stadium there is no reason we can't match them. Of course if we get a full NFL franchise using the stadium then NONE of all our football rivals will see us for dust.

The NFL tie in still won't get us close to United's commercial contracts, IMO. They're getting more for their training kit sponsor than most teams get for a kit sponsor.

 

[eddiev14]

That quote from Neville is taken from his podcast where he speaks so well about us.

It's annoying that's he's fallen into the trap of idle gossip over Poch's future but the rest of what he said was excellent. Honestly love listening to his analysis, he's such an intelligent and engaging pundit.

Here's the audio file for those that want a listen: http://stitched-files.bwh9c8255b4.n...467a6d&st=phR1g8QvKMu67ikqJArblA&e=1475760032

His comment about being a 'team that tackles' is spot on and rarely touched on by other pundits.

 

[eddiev14]

Also, not a professional pundit, but Luke Moore on the Football Ramble is another person who IMO talks really, really well about football and always seems to 'get' what is going on at our club.

Interestingly he is the only person this week who I've heard stressing how important Dembele is to us, and that we were without him against City.

Listen from 11:07 minutes, here: https://www.mixcloud.com/FootballRamble/steve-bruce/

 

[Trix]

"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."

Neville has been beating this drum for over a year now. Clearly sees Fergie in him imo.

 

[Tucker]

Neville has been beating this drum for over a year now. Clearly sees Fergie in him imo.

He's got far more class than Ferguson. You never see MoPo spitting his dummy out like whisky nose used to.

 

[sak11]

No disrespect to you Gary me old chum, but the biggest job in the world is not Yanited anymore. Man City - big only in terms of the petro dollars backing them otherwise just a small club in Manchester. As to the obvious choices - Real and Barca. I wonder if he would even want to go to the circus that surrounds those clubs. For a start Real is a poisoned chalice and Barca - well he is not a Barca style manager. Never will be. Poch's brutal in your face football isn't going to go over well in tiki taka land.

After that who do you have? Juve a big club in a pretty ordinary Serie A - and a big step down from the PL. Bayern? Who would you go to a one club league? As for the rest - they are pretty much in Spurs space as top 12 in the world. So come again - biggest jobs in the world. Really?

One really important point.... Poch seems to be a very loyal and straight up kind of guy.
He is seen as a legend at Espanyol - Im not sure he would take the Barca job for that reason. Additionally to which, his "style" is to develop and coach a team with his philosophy. He likes having a project (at the moment). So unless he completely changes how he sees the game then I don't see him being a for for Real as they wouldn't give him the time he would want to develop the team in his image.

 

[longtimespur]

I like to think I can trust Poch, he seems a very honest and up front guy, and I see no reason not to.
He has said he wants to be here for as long as Wenger at L'arse and Rednose at Yanited. To build a dynasty.
If that is what he wants then why not believe him?

 

[Bobbins]

Bit of a shame we've got the international break for all the media and pundits to suddenly start wanking themselves off over us because of the result on Sunday, it was nice to be under the radar.

However we've got a ridiculously tough October/November period coming up when no doubt it'll be impossible for us to maintain positive results in every single game - so get ready for the media to suddenly turn on us and accuse us of "bottling the title before Christmas" etc - which may actually work to our advantage as everyone writes us off again.

 

[Trix]

He's got far more class than Ferguson. You never see MoPo spitting his dummy out like whisky nose used to.

I never said he was exactly the same.

 

[etchedchaos]

Bit of a shame we've got the international break for all the media and pundits to suddenly start wanking themselves off over us because of the result on Sunday, it was nice to be under the radar.

However we've got a ridiculously tough October/November period coming up when no doubt it'll be impossible for us to maintain positive results in every single game - so get ready for the media to suddenly turn on us and accuse us of "bottling the title before Christmas" etc - which may actually work to our advantage as everyone writes us off again.

You underestimate the medias love for Klopp and the scouse, without any games to reinforce the conclusions from the Shitty game, the media will just revert to the Klopp fapfest they had going on before.

 

[mike_l]

Neville has been beating this drum for over a year now. Clearly sees Fergie in him imo.

That dinner date must've gone REALLY well...

 

[guiltyparty]

He's got far more class than Ferguson. You never see MoPo spitting his dummy out like whisky nose used to.

I'm not getting suckered in THAT way again.

 

[Ossie85]

Their worldwide fan base doesn't drive their revenues, that is driven by their match day revenues and sponsorship. So I will repeat that once we have the new stadium there is no reason we can't match them. Of course if we get a full NFL franchise using the stadium then NONE of all our football rivals will see us for dust.

Here you have a detailed view of how the top football clubs get their revenues
http://www2.deloitte.com/rs/en/pages/consumer-business/articles/deloitte-football-money-league1.html

Arsenal have 132m from matchday income, 168m from broadcasting, and 136 from commercial income. So I'd say worldwide fan base is important.

If you look at Man U, they have 114m from matchday income, 141m from broadcasting, and 264 from commercial income

That should show you how important it is.

We have 54m from matchday income, 125m from broadcasting, and 78m from commercial income

We have to improve that if we want to be on even terms with Arsenal. Having Nike as the kit manufacturer next season should help

(it's all in Euros)

 

[southlondonyiddo]

How many NFL games was it to start with?

Do we get all the revenue on those game days or does the NFL get a %?

Still it should give us a few more quid with those sold out games...

 

[inclineyid]

Their worldwide fan base doesn't drive their revenues, that is driven by their match day revenues and sponsorship. So I will repeat that once we have the new stadium there is no reason we can't match them. Of course if we get a full NFL franchise using the stadium then NONE of all our football rivals will see us for dust.

Of course the size of one's world wide fan Base drives revenue. You get bigger sponsorship deals if the company sponsoring you perceives you to have a large international fan Base. Fairly obvious.

 

[sloth]

They have disproportionately high commercial deals from other Middle Eastern companies which is basically financial doping to get around the fair play system.
City were the worst as they explained the deals as being based on future success. They also included all sorts of questionable 'extras' such as naming rights for the road leading to the training academy etc.
The deals were originally questioned but their lawyers were too clever.

What about Chelsea's loan of David Luiz to PSG for a ridiculously inflated fee and then bought back for a ridiculously inflated fee, thus making the net quite low. Clearly they were gaming something be it the tax system, laundering, FFP or something else.

I don't know how they hold the investigative journos off...

Apparently they make almost as much on gate receipts as Arsenal despite average ticket prices and attendance being much lower and Arsenal having far more corporate sponsors and boxes and whatnot. How's that possible?

 

[widmerpool]

Apparently they make almost as much on gate receipts as Arsenal despite average ticket prices and attendance being much lower and Arsenal having far more corporate sponsors and boxes and whatnot. How's that possible?

At a guess, by charging Abramovich a few mill each match for his hospitality package . . .

 

[sloth]

At a guess, by charging Abramovich a few mill each match for his hospitality package . . .

But that's against the rules and if it's true so blatant I'd have thought a journalist would have exposed it by now.