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Never seen them play so bad.
neither have i
everybody knows chelseas quality but we can't even do the basics like pass the ball, keep shape and compete. they are stronger than us, more intelligent and fitter
Never seen them play so bad.
Putting who on a pedestal. I'm calling it as it is. This club have dominated youth football in every format for the last 5 years. No European club comes close. You have no idea how any of these players would have developed or looked had they had a chance in Chelea's first team, or come through in France. You also have no idea how good these Dembeles or Mbappes would have looked if they came through the Chelsea academy and were compared to the other Chelsea players. It is all speculation.
Before Mbappe and Dembele came through, they weren't outstanding or being raved about at international youth level. I'd heard of Passlack, Pulisic and Lee Seung Woo for example, so there is no accurate measure of rating players. Pulisic is now being talked about, but it's just about getting a chance and taking it, without a chance noone can guess how any player would do. Rashford wasn't regarded as one of the best strikers in his age group and was given a chance because of an injury now he is considered as one of the top youngsters in the world. He would not have even got into Chelea's FAYC team, ahead of Musonda, Solanke and Abraham.
As I say these Chelsea players while having individually ability arguably more important function brilliantly as a team, noone knows how well they would do with a first team chance, but we now how well they do compared to their contemporaries at youth level. Its not a stretch to think that just ONE of the last 4 FAYC winning and 2 CL winning teams could have shined in the PL, when you consider how well Winks, Davies, TAA have all made teh step up recentle
If my boy was a top Chelsea youth player (like today), I would be looking to move him out to get bigger opportunities and first team football in a smaller club
Missed the whole game. Kinda glad I did. We were always underdogs but any team that loses 7-1, no matter who its against, has had a very, very bad day. I hope McDermott is handing out a few home truths.
I'm not sure that is the way to go. Our lads obviously feel intimated by Chelsea's power and dominance at this level. Just berating them for it won't solve anything.Missed the whole game. Kinda glad I did. We were always underdogs but any team that loses 7-1, no matter who its against, has had a very, very bad day. I hope McDermott is handing out a few home truths.
The way I see it the model of their academy and ours is completely different.Daniel will be getting worried that the investment in youth may not save him lots of money in the long term.
Some might go on to make the grade, but after watching the two matches you have to expect more of the Chelsea lads too than ours - just that in all probability they will not be plying their trade for Chelsea
Daniel will be getting worried that the investment in youth may not save him lots of money in the long term.
I'm not sure that is the way to go. Our lads obviously feel intimated by Chelsea's power and dominance at this level. Just berating them for it won't solve anything.
I don't watch as much youth footballIt doesn't have to be the hair dryer treatment, but part of making the grade will be resilience and not letting your head drop. I'm sure McDermott will explain that sometimes you've just got to shut up shop, take a 2 or 3 nil and not get embarrassed.
In the end though you can have as many youth trophies as you want - but having Kane and Winks shining in the first team is priceless.
If my boy was a top Chelsea youth player (like today), I would be looking to move him out to get bigger opportunities and first team football in a smaller club
The way I see it the model of their academy and ours is completely different.
They pay to assemble the cream of the crop of youth from far and wide, the same as City.
We work to develop the undervalued kids. The smaller ones like Winks, the ones with more obvious weaknesses, like Kane had.
McDermott has said we work far more at youth levels on developing individuals rather than putting together strong teams.
Nothing has really changed - I'd still put money on the likes of KWP and Edwards breaking through here more than any of the last lot of Chelsea kids, even Abraham.
Not particularly surprising. Different genetic make up that allows for powerful athletes but as they're english, they've essentially grown up with a football tied to their feet. So they have power and skill. Look at the french national team, so many players of african origin. All big, powerful players who have amazing ball control.Is it just my perception or are the loads of talented young English players of Nigerian heritage?
E.g. Dele Alli, Josh Onomah, TJ Eyoma, Tammy Abraham, the Chalobah brothers, Dominic Solanke, Ike Ugbo, Fikaro Tomori, Ademola Lookman etc?