FA Cup 2016/17

worcestersauce said:

Do you believe we will win a trophy soon or do you believe we won't, just out of interest.

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worcestersauce said:

Do you believe we will win a trophy soon or do you believe we won't, just out of interest.

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TheHood said:

I don't hold out much hope because the prioritisation of the league format over the cups( which represent a far realistic opportunity at success) is still at play. The disconnect between the respective formats is clear to see. And there is an imbedded qualification culture at the club, it's been there for years and it has been hugely damaging. When a club does not make silverware its priority then it comes as no surprise when it doesn't do that, it doesn't foster the necessary culture for success. The club has been good enough to win a league cup, FA Cup or UEFA since 2005 and yet has only won one of those trophies since then. When 2 hugely talented Tottenham sides as we have seen this decade cannot secure silverware and not even come close to doing that really then questions should be asked about the strategy at the club. But seemingly that is a taboo subject.

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tiger666 said:

It's not taboo, you're just wrong.

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spurs mental said:

Says it all when Woolwich, instead of singing about their club, sing about us instead, moments after the final whistle.

Broken.

Broken club.

Broken fanbase.

Broken.

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TheHood said:

Then actually explain how it is.

Saying you're wrong or you're speaking shit is a not a valid entry point to a discussion.

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gp13tot said:

Royally pissed off.

We've had a great season and still all I can think is 'Spursy' at best, or @Hazardousman conspiracy theorist at worst

When 'success' is in our grasp it always is snatched from us it seems, and it's hard to accept. I'm absolutely gutted

Who else has ever had a squad full of players poisoned with dodgy lasagne?
Who else would be denied a champions league place by a much favoured team who had the benefit of playing a final in their own stadium?
Who else would spend almost the whole season ahead of the usual suspects, to be pipped to the title by some inbreds?
Who else, having finally finished ahead of their 'local' rivals, would still end up with less trophies and therefore less bragging rights than them?

I've always been one of those who is not remotely convinced elite sport is at all honest. A team sponsored by the competition sponsors has won 3 out of the last 4 competitions? Hmmmm. When the dominant champions don't turn up at all against an injury hit squad with a double on the line? And have a player sent off for a dive, yet same player, stadium and offence and somehow a penalty is awarded, by a referee that has had previous with us in the exact same fixture and venue 5 years ago and shouldn't have even been appointed by the FA. Completely unfair, and typical that the goons should get the breaks we don't, yet again. When Costa scored I said to the missus, goons will score straight away, there is absolutely no doubt about it. Call it ESP, or something fishier, certainly call it spursy, as well as utterly shit defending.

What's more, why do certain teams and players only turn up against us? Hazard really hates us don't he? He was disgraceful today, he'd completely given up on the game way before the end. Kante is almost unbreakable for 2 years and then that? If that was sissoko we'd be apopletic on here. In fact, Sissoko has never been that bad for us, not by a long chalk. Against us, he'd have been everywhere no doubt, sprouting wings and all sorts. Part of me really thinks the Chelsea players phoned it in to embarrass us, they've had success this season and know they won't be called legends by their mates in the media.

It's certainly not the community shield, nice though it'd be it is a glorified friendly nothing more. It's that for the first time since I was 14, I've been waiting to keep those gooner mouths shut and have some bragging rights and that feelings the wind is changing. I'd rather win something than come 2nd without a trophy, as impressive as that is, and i'm feeling that we are the laughing stock and the poorer relation yet again. Sick of it. This feels worse than Newcastle last year as I felt then we'd fuck it after the Soton loss at home. I was convinced Chelsea would beat those horrible gooner pricks.

And they've done my acca, was on for near £200. Fuckers.

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TheHood said:

I don't hold out much hope because the prioritisation of the league format over the cups( which represent a far realistic opportunity at success) is still at play. The disconnect between the respective formats is clear to see. And there is an imbedded qualification culture at the club, it's been there for years and it has been hugely damaging. When a club does not make silverware its priority then it comes as no surprise when it doesn't do that, it doesn't foster the necessary culture for success. The club has been good enough to win a league cup, FA Cup or UEFA since 2005 and yet has only won one of those trophies since then. When 2 hugely talented Tottenham sides as we have seen this decade cannot secure silverware and not even come close to doing that really then questions should be asked about the strategy at the club. But seemingly that is a taboo subject.

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TheHood said:

You can believe all want, the facts are we haven't won any silverware in decade and teams that finished well behind us such as Manchester United have won more in 12 months than we have in the PL era despite having an inferior side. We have just seen a mediocre Arsenal side win the FA Cup with a depleted side but that doesn't say anything about is though right?

Now what is odd is that the ire is actually directed at those who draw attention to this rather than at a club who has an an abundance of talent but isn't delivering on this with regards to silverware, especially when a number of Inferiour sides are.

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riggi said:

Manu and arsenal have had a better 2017 than us. Trophies are what it's about. I'm more envious of manu than arsenal though.

That's not me throwing our season down the shitter, just stating facts.

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Mustard said:

I would rather win the facup and come fifth than come second.

It's not like we are going to win the champions league anyway.

I'm still immensely proud of our season, football and team but the game is about glory. Second isn't glory. Winning cups and leagues is glory.

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Ionman34 said:

Oh fuck up pal.

Your "drawing attention," as if you are providing us with an epiphany, is a bullshit excuse. You're no supporter, you're a glory hunter in it for the bragging rights... At best.

At worst you're a troll looking to wind up Spurs supporters because you're not one.

whilst the rest of us see that the club is BUILDING towards a sustainable legacy, you want silverware RIGHT NOW so you can give it the biggun.

While we want what the likes of Utd and Chelsea have/have had, you want what Leicester got.

I dream of us being the biggest club in the World and can see that the only way to achieve that is getting up there with the elite.

I also realise that in competing with the elite, at this point in time you are more often than not going to fall short. That realisation doesn't equate to an acceptance, it doesn't mean I, or any others of like mind, have an inferiority complex, it simply means that we realise that we're only part way into the journey.

It's people like you that have the inferiority complex. You'll settle for any trophy so long as it gives you a chance to brag NOW, because you've convinced yourself that we're going to fall away, so better to get what we can now.

I want trophies, lots of trophies. I want my club to be dominant on every front. I want every team we play shitting bricks before a ball is kicked. I want the mindset changed from "Lads, it's Tottenham" to "Fuck, it's Tottenham" every time they see a fixture list.

If I have to suck up the odd glory day for our rivals in order to get that wish then I'll suck it up. I sucked up relegation in the 70's, I sucked up seeing the goons win titles at our place, I sucked up the Scholar debacle and the atrocious '90's. I sucked up "Lasgnegate," being the only team to finish 4th and miss out on CL and I'll suck up a lot more to see this club where I BELIEVE it belongs and is headed.

What I will not suck up is glory hounds telling me that I or the club has no ambition when everything before my eyes make the lie of that.

So, like I said earlier, do one. Everything about you screams glory hound. I'll hazard a guess that you have mates/colleagues who follow the likes of Chelsea and Utd. You've felt embarrassed when they've ribbed you about the trophy count...

And the only reason you haven't jumped ship yet is because they'd embarrass you even more.

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worcestersauce said:

As an outsider looking in then you are right, they have won something(s) and we have not but as one of us looking out we can see the significance of this season, it has been absolutely massive.
We have established ourselves as not only a CL club but also as valid title challenger, last year has been shown not to have been just a fluky one off, we have put ourselves firmly on a higher level, none of which are the point, the point is that that all shows the massive improvement of our team over the last three years, would I give that up for a trophy? No I wouldn't, would I like a trophy over the next three years? Yes I would and I bloody well expect at least one too.

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