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Are you happy with our squad?

Are you happy with our squad?

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Snarfalicious

Snarfalicious

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Westmorland said:
If you have a close look at the City squad announced today, they only have 18 plus a bunch of kids Phil Foden and the like, virtually no first team experience for any of them. In the 18 are Mangala. Delph..and Fernando who have hardly played or been loaned out last season. If they get a few injuries they may struggle , especially at the back . Kompany may have to play most of the games if he doesn't,t break down.
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It's a squad so reminiscent of others; a really strong first XI with really nice attacking depth. However, outside of that the depth in areas of the pitch such as central midfield and defense they are severely lacking.

I think our squad is one of the most balanced in the league with the addition of Llorente.
 
SpursTillIDie1882

SpursTillIDie1882

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On reflection a good window to add to our squad, if for barkelys injury he would be our player. That pacey defense locking attacker elluded us but defo seem we tried and had targets. RB replacement with aurier, better than most of us could have imagined, and could be considered an upgrade. Plan b option upfront with llorente, and i man proper plab b with some additional class and experiences in all situations, swansea last season being a very poignant . Sanchez looks lively, will add energy and upgrade on wimmer no disrespect. We discount or maybe i should say just me, we have lamela and sissko, both very good players when on form. Lamela i have q soft spot for but he was great before injured, if he can add some goals hed be fab. Sissko there is s player there but he looks timid he looks restricted in the way he plays, either he cant be bothered or just cant replicate that explossiveness and dangerous attacking play, short way of saying he looks like he is just holding back and not expressing himself.

Vj could learn alot from llorente, might not be bad for him to be around him, maybe help his game. Maybe will just make him try harder and the breakthrough will come ... who knows but glad we have a real option and quality attacker to kane.

We look solid from a squad point, argue littler stronger that last season now with the additions. However this season everyone else has improved with some stellar signings, maybe not l'arse lol ... we could have extended to that strengthening with that game changing defence unlocking attacker.
 
stevespurs

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Each season players have improved under Poch's coaching. I'd expect that one or more of our current squad, especially our young fellas, will step up.

Aurier looks like he could provide some pace on the right, that many are craving.

Llorente will add a new dimension up front. With him and Kane together, they could link up nicely.

I am looking forward to our season starting now the window has closed. Just wish it closed before the first game, it feels like we have just played 3 pre-season "friendly" games.
 
RichieS

RichieS

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Snarfalicious said:
It's a squad so reminiscent of others; a really strong first XI with really nice attacking depth. However, outside of that the depth in areas of the pitch such as central midfield and defense they are severely lacking.

I think our squad is one of the most balanced in the league with the addition of Llorente.
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Just check the match day 18 I posted on the previous page. I don't think there's a stronger one in the league. I even had to leave Trippier out of it!
 
Lemon

Lemon

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BringBack_leGin said:
Thing that interests me most here is that an overwhelming majority are happy with our squad according to the poll, yet if you went by the posts in the Transfer forum and itk discussion thread you'd think the club was in a state of ruin. There can't even be any accusation of leading in my OP, I merely asked the question and posted a squad list.

I guess the lunatics haven't taken over the asylum after all :)
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The zeitgeist in this sub-forum is quite balanced towards the slight positive and understands (often begrudgingly) our financial restraints. The transfer sub-forum is overrun with entitlement and delusion regarding our financial realities.
 
BringBack_leGin

BringBack_leGin

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Lemon said:
The zeitgeist in this sub-forum is quite balanced towards the slight positive and understands (often begrudgingly) our financial restraints. The transfer sub-forum is overrun with entitlement and delusion regarding our financial realities.
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Lovely use of the word zeitgeist!
 
Pellshek

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This "we need pacey wide men" thing seems to have taken on a life of its own. I didn't hear that complaint a single time last season. Not once. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, because we scored more goals than anyone else. Where this notion sprang from and how everyone suddenly came to believe it so strongly is odd.
 
davidmatzdorf

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Pellshek said:
This "we need pacey wide men" thing seems to have taken on a life of its own. I didn't hear that complaint a single time last season. Not once. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, because we scored more goals than anyone else. Where this notion sprang from and how everyone suddenly came to believe it so strongly is odd.
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It manifests itself every time we find it difficult to break down a resolute 10-man-defence-bus-parking opponent, especially when we spend a majority of time trying to tickle the ball through the scrum on the edge of the penalty box and (as we did against Burnley) have about 15 shots blocked by lunging (or oblivious) defenders.

If we win, it usually subsides thereafter, but if not, a group opines for the next week that we should have speedy wingers getting behind the defence and raining in crosses. In practice, Rose and Walker [Aurier] routinely get behind the defence, as does Trippier, but attacking crosses in open play is really a skill that only Kane has shown on a reliable basis. Now that we have Llorente on board, it might make more sense. But I'm still doubtful that it needs traditional wingers.
 
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Pellshek said:
This "we need pacey wide men" thing seems to have taken on a life of its own. I didn't hear that complaint a single time last season. Not once. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, because we scored more goals than anyone else. Where this notion sprang from and how everyone suddenly came to believe it so strongly is odd.
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I think people are referring more to players who are quick in tight areas. Think Hazard, Sanchez even Zaha who make it difficult even for well set deep defences to operate as they often take 2-3 opposition players to contain them and thus open up space for others

Even if Hazard is off his game when he gets the ball everyone takes note. Quite simply we don't have anyone like that, we haven't since Bale or Ginola and that's why there is a lot of hope around Marcus Edwards who seems to be blessed with that type of ability (as yet unproven at senior level).
 
BringBack_leGin

BringBack_leGin

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davidmatzdorf said:
It manifests itself every time we find it difficult to break down a resolute 10-man-defence-bus-parking opponent, especially when we spend a majority of time trying to tickle the ball through the scrum on the edge of the penalty box and (as we did against Burnley) have about 15 shots blocked by lunging (or oblivious) defenders.

If we win, it usually subsides thereafter, but if not, a group opines for the next week that we should have speedy wingers getting behind the defence and raining in crosses. In practice, Rose and Walker [Aurier] routinely get behind the defence, as does Trippier, but attacking crosses in open play is really a skill that only Kane has shown on a reliable basis. Now that we have Llorente on board, it might make more sense. But I'm still doubtful that it needs traditional wingers.
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I love a traditional winger but I think, far more than pace (as pace on it's own it useless against a deep packed defence with no space behind to attack), a player with the subtlety and nimbleness to weave in and out of challenges in the final third. That has nothing to do with pace, Berbatov was better at it than any other player we've had since and he wasn't exactly roadrunner, and Modric has a decent short distance sprint due to having the body mass of a small child but also isn't particularly fast.

In our squad only Eriksen particularly excels at it, Dembele is more about swatting away one after the other deeper on the pitch rather than all at once in the final third. Kane can beat a man when there's space on the other side as he's bloody powerful and controls the ball but again, he doesn't have that agility to jink in and out high up the pitch. Dele thinks he does and it's nice when it comes off, but he's far better off the ball than on it in reality. Son the same.

I've seen a few more clips of Edwards now that he is fit, if he breaks through he seems to possess this trait, while I think it may be in Nkoudou's repertoire if he ever gets a chance, but after Eriksen there are no obvious first teams with the kind of guile I describe.
 
thekneaf

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BringBack_leGin said:
I love a traditional winger but I think, far more than pace (as pace on it's own it useless against a deep packed defence with no space behind to attack), a player with the subtlety and nimbleness to weave in and out of challenges in the final third. That has nothing to do with pace, Berbatov was better at it than any other player we've had since and he wasn't exactly roadrunner, and Modric has a decent short distance sprint due to having the body mass of a small child but also isn't particularly fast.

In our squad only Eriksen particularly excels at it, Dembele is more about swatting away one after the other deeper on the pitch rather than all at once in the final third. Kane can beat a man when there's space on the other side as he's bloody powerful and controls the ball but again, he doesn't have that agility to jink in and out high up the pitch. Dele thinks he does and it's nice when it comes off, but he's far better off the ball than on it in reality. Son the same.

I've seen a few more clips of Edwards now that he is fit, if he breaks through he seems to possess this trait, while I think it may be in Nkoudou's repertoire if he ever gets a chance, but after Eriksen there are no obvious first teams with the kind of guile I describe.
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Bernardo Silva basically.

Agree that Edwards should get a chance, offers a different skill set to any first team player.
 
Yido1989

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Very happy with our squad, like others have said, best team and manager i've seen in my lifetime. With players we've added, also lamela & Rose coming back, we look strong.

Wished we got Ryan Sess, Sancho and Barkley in, Unfortunately Barkley got injured, itk said Fulham manager may walk if Sess sold & City apparently making it hard or levy doing similar deal to fryers. So overall happy but get these 3 in January.
 
Lemon

Lemon

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davidmatzdorf said:
Arguably 'genius loci' would have been more accurate ;).

It depends whether a sub-forum on a website is a virtual time or a virtual place.

Ontology, anyone?
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Well, it is both as it is a de facto place, yet only exists at certain times...
 
Basil Brush

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Yido1989 said:
Very happy with our squad, like others have said, best team and manager i've seen in my lifetime. With players we've added, also lamela & Rose coming back, we look strong.

Wished we got Ryan Sess, Sancho and Barkley in, Unfortunately Barkley got injured, itk said Fulham manager may walk if Sess sold & City apparently making it hard or levy doing similar deal to fryers. So overall happy but get these 3 in January.
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If we get those 3 and keep everyone else (possibly besides Sissoko ;) ),we are pretty much a premiership winning team.

Would be an absolute dream
 
brendanb50

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BringBack_leGin said:
I love a traditional winger but I think, far more than pace (as pace on it's own it useless against a deep packed defence with no space behind to attack), a player with the subtlety and nimbleness to weave in and out of challenges in the final third. That has nothing to do with pace, Berbatov was better at it than any other player we've had since and he wasn't exactly roadrunner, and Modric has a decent short distance sprint due to having the body mass of a small child but also isn't particularly fast.

In our squad only Eriksen particularly excels at it, Dembele is more about swatting away one after the other deeper on the pitch rather than all at once in the final third. Kane can beat a man when there's space on the other side as he's bloody powerful and controls the ball but again, he doesn't have that agility to jink in and out high up the pitch. Dele thinks he does and it's nice when it comes off, but he's far better off the ball than on it in reality. Son the same.

I've seen a few more clips of Edwards now that he is fit, if he breaks through he seems to possess this trait, while I think it may be in Nkoudou's repertoire if he ever gets a chance, but after Eriksen there are no obvious first teams with the kind of guile I describe.
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Agreed. Raw pace is a very useful element to have to have and it definitely has it's advantages but a far rarer talent is what i think we have in Edwards - the ability to shift the ball in tight areas at speed, whilst maintaining close/absolute control.

Players like that can create space and opportunities in the final 3rd, almost at will. I seriously hope he begins stepping up this year, would be great to see him start building confidence and ability at senior level.
 
Yido1989

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Basil Brush said:
If we get those 3 and keep everyone else (possibly besides Sissoko ;) ),we are pretty much a premiership winning team.

Would be an absolute dream
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Yh would be great, sissoko may leave January or summer i don't know, but for this season, Its not the worst player to have in the squad, i know he hasn't done much yet, but im hoping for alot better this season, hes been here for year now and had whole pre season. World cup coming up, so he's going to be fighting hard for a spot. I just think we should get behind him now he's staying.
 
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