Well, he did cross himself three times, so I see what you mean.
Tottenham Hotspur vs Rochdale - Match Thread
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Phomesy
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But it was the Ref who blew up in this instance - so his decision stands.
I think.
I'm so confused.
Aleks
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Var
Moira
Sissocko
Kyle Danny Peters Rose (also know as Kyle walkey-peakers)
Endless snow
No orange ball
Strange substitutions (dembele and alli? Really?)
Kwp first goal
Llorente hat trick when he was awful for most of the match
6-1 (5 goals in the second half)
The most entertaining and awful football match I have ever seen
Moira
Sissocko
Kyle Danny Peters Rose (also know as Kyle walkey-peakers)
Endless snow
No orange ball
Strange substitutions (dembele and alli? Really?)
Kwp first goal
Llorente hat trick when he was awful for most of the match
6-1 (5 goals in the second half)
The most entertaining and awful football match I have ever seen
whitestreak
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what were the odds of a 7-1 or 8-1 win tonight .... i'd love to know as after that fiasco
Can you imagine putting a large wedge of money on 7-1 or 8-1 score line and having that farce....
The FA could and should get sued for that would soon sort that sh1t out.
Ref was totally incompetent both on pitch and Video was a total disgrace!
Plus ther was encroachment before the stutter on the Pen, (which in any event is allowed)
Can you imagine putting a large wedge of money on 7-1 or 8-1 score line and having that farce....
The FA could and should get sued for that would soon sort that sh1t out.
Ref was totally incompetent both on pitch and Video was a total disgrace!
Plus ther was encroachment before the stutter on the Pen, (which in any event is allowed)
Can anyone explain bringing on dembele for 30 mins on a freezing cold night. Quite baffling for me. He’s clearly now a key player, he can’t need minutes. Along with Kane Eriksen he’s irreplaceable in the run in. Why on Earth with his injury record would you risk him. I think we were 4-1 up when he came on made absolutely no sense at all.
nightgoat
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Yeah, I think that was the ref rather than VAR. But he's still got it wrong in terms of booking Son as per the law pertinent to that issue and that the first offence was four Rochdale players being in the area by the time Son adjusted his run up. In a way it's almost excusable as he's just confused himself, kinda how that linesman who disallowed Jan's goal a few years ago for offside when he was inside his own half did.
Not really any excuse for the VAR chap on Lamela's disallowed goal though.
Illegal feinting trumps everything. It doesn't matter if the penalty was scored or missed or if there was encroachment by one or both teams. The outcome is the same. A caution to the kick taker and an indirect free kick to the other team.
Danners9
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Then you have Jenas and Chris Foy disagreeing after the game over what constitutes an illegal feint, one from a player's perspective and the other from a referee. Can of worms, this.
I wish I could be of help on this. It's an extremely vaguely written area in the laws. I've heard from enough experienced referees that this is supposed to be judged as an illegal feint.
My comment was focusing on the restart though. Once the referee rules Son feinted illegally, the correct restart is an IDFK to Rochdale. It doesn't matter about the previous encroachment. So the referee corrected restarted the game, but we can argue about whether it was actually an illegal feint.
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He probably earned a 50K bonus for that cameo.
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Was at the game and the refereeing was an absolute joke, stopped the game so often. No explanation of what was going on or why the VAR decisions were made, just him standing with his finger in his ear, then playing charades with himself and drawing a fucking television over and over.
Really not a fan of this VAR. It stops the game far too often and you feel like such a tit when you celebrate a goal and then find out it's been disallowed a full minute later.
Really not a fan of this VAR. It stops the game far too often and you feel like such a tit when you celebrate a goal and then find out it's been disallowed a full minute later.
WexfordTownSpur
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Exactly that’s the worry. Don’t trust Dier at CB and verts injuries makes me worried
jimbo
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I'm not a fan of VAR from before it was introduced. Football takes itself far too seriously as it is, and the game should flow in a way that the other sports which make use of technology don't.
However, if you are going to do it then the decision needs to be right. The ref should call the game as he sees it and it should only overturn a decision if there is no ambiguity, which is extremely hard to do in football - just look at how regularly pundits disagree amongst themselves. At the moment it feels as though it is being used as a crutch.
Now the genie is out of the bottle I suspect we're stuck with it, but it needs a serious rethink about how it is used. Something they really should have worked out before trialing it. I guess this where an Agile methodology gets you.
However, if you are going to do it then the decision needs to be right. The ref should call the game as he sees it and it should only overturn a decision if there is no ambiguity, which is extremely hard to do in football - just look at how regularly pundits disagree amongst themselves. At the moment it feels as though it is being used as a crutch.
Now the genie is out of the bottle I suspect we're stuck with it, but it needs a serious rethink about how it is used. Something they really should have worked out before trialing it. I guess this where an Agile methodology gets you.
thebenjamin
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The law says the feint has to happen at the end of the run up for it to be illegal
fortworthspur
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the ref expert on the US feed said its only a foul if you stop before your last touch and thus Son's goal was good, but I dunno. Never seen a decision like that before tho and players do that all the time.
if this is what VAR is going to be like no thanks. the officials made a mockery of the first half.
if this is what VAR is going to be like no thanks. the officials made a mockery of the first half.
Yes, but Son stopped about one step away from the ball. This is arguably close enough to attempt to get the goalkeeper to begin his dive. That's why the referee ruled the way he did. IMO what Son did should be illegal and I think FIFA wants it to be illegal, but the laws of the game are not explicitly clear that what he did was illegal. It needs to be cleared up.
WexfordTownSpur
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I agree the first half was more pantomime than football. But the early goal helped and in the end the snow might have helped us? All in all not a fantastic performance. Rochdale could easily gone in at half time 2-1 up. I think the two early goals knocked the stuffing out of them in the second half and they pretty much gave up. I actually surprised we made any subs, and the one I thought we would make, getting Lamela off before a second yellow brought us down to 10 men never happened. Can’t wait to see player ratings! I would have to say VAR apart Rochdale matched this team of seasoned professionals rather well and should be proud of that.
WexfordTownSpur
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I think the bottom line is we’ve all seen those stutter stop penalties before and had no problems so unless it came in this year I thought the trickery was legal. Dont Sanchez and auguro always do it?
The difference was Son came to a complete stop compared to the usual stutter step/slowing down that's 100% legal.
