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Saoirse

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I love Poch, but for me he ballsed up today by naming Vorm instead of Lioris in goal.

I rate Vorm and get why Poch started him out of loyalty to a keeper who started the previous rounds. But to drop not only your first choice keeper, but Captain as well, for a cup semi final, sends out the wrong message.
What would the message have been if he started Hugo? "It doesn't matter how badly you perform, or how well the backup does, you'll still be selected purely on reputation"?
 

markiespurs

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What would the message have been if he started Hugo? "It doesn't matter how badly you perform, or how well the backup does, you'll still be selected purely on reputation"?

It would have been that we are taking the competition more seriously by starting our first choice keeper and team captain.
 

SugarRay

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Maybe the players would wanna look in the mirror first, cause I don't think a different guy standing on the sidelines would've made much difference to how awfully a number of them performed today.

I think a certain level of manager wouldn’t tolerate it and a few would be scared for their futures at the club of say, we had the opposing manager today in charge. Standards need to be set and anything below them aren’t acceptable.
 

muppetman

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Expectation levels have risen and people now expect much more but we are still the 6th in terms of spend. Love Poch, hope he stays for years and years.

It doesn't mean he is without flaws - it wasn't that long ago that people were complaining he only had one system to play - this is no longer the case. Stick with him and his "big game" management will also improve.

Keep the faith.
 

tototoner

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Pochettino: “To compete in this type of game, I think we are ready.. but to win is different. The most important thing is we are in this process,..that with me, or with another coaching staff, the club need to push in that direction.”

Bit worried to be honest
 

danielneeds

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Just to increase the joy on here tonight, a lot of Chelsea fans on Twitter are convinced that Rom’s made Poch a massive offer to switch over in the summer
 

SugarRay

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Love him but simply cannot win games when it truly matters.

Think we are the latest version of the fairly recent Leeds and Newcastle sides, who are now just a footnote in history as sides who played nice football yet didn’t win fuck all
 

muppetman

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This explains it better, there is more but the pertinent part is this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/21/sports/soccer/tottenham-hotspur-mauricio-pochettino.html

The last game before Pochettino arrived was in May 2014, a meaningless, meandering home win against Aston Villa. Spurs was sixth at the start of that day, sandwiched between Everton and Manchester United, with European qualification secured but a place in the Champions League impossibly distant.
In Pochettino’s place on the bench at White Hart Lane was his predecessor, Tim Sherwood. For most of the game, at least. Midway through the second half, with his team up, 3-0, Sherwood decided it was time, in his words, for “some banter.”
Not far from the dugout sat a couple of fans who had, Sherwood said, been “telling me what to do every week.” Turning away from the field, Sherwood suddenly pointed to one of them, Danny Grimsdale. Sherwood asked Grimsdale if he wanted to put his money where his mouth was, to come and sit on the bench and see if he could do Sherwood’s job as well as he thought.
Grimsdale demurred at first but soon changed his mind. He trotted over the advertising boards, skipped up to Sherwood, slipped on the manager’s vest — an item of clothing that had become something of a trademark — and duly took his place on the bench. Sherwood laughed. Grimsdale laughed. White Hart Lane laughed.
That is the club that Pochettino found: one of considerable promise, talented players and weighty history, for sure, but one where there tended to be quite a bit of laughter, and not all of it shared with the regulars in the first few rows. Spurs’ taste for self-destruction was such a cliché that an adjective — Spursy — had been coined to encapsulate it.
Spurs was the sort of team that might miss out on Champions League qualification because of a lasagna — or so legend had it — in 2006, and then do so again in 2012 because Chelsea, among its fiercest rivals, won the title to swipe its place.
It was a team that appointed Sherwood as coach, despite deep-seated reservations, and then watched as he went rogue, criticizing his players, his board, and eventually offering his place on the bench to a fan. It was a team that churned through managers and players with little rhyme or reason, a club forever in flux.
Pochettino has changed all of that. His transformation of Tottenham is, when examined not in the heat of a moment and the bitterness of defeat but at one remove, one of the most remarkable achievements in recent English soccer history.
Spurs did not used to reach two semifinals — and one league cup final — in the space of three years. It did not used to beat Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in the Champions League. It did not even used to qualify, with the exception of the occasional season under Harry Redknapp, for the Champions League.
It did not used to mount title challenges of any sort, successful or not. It did not used to provide the backbone of the England team, or be seen as a paragon of virtue when it came to youth development. Real Madrid and Paris St.-Germain did not used to look toward its manager with envious eyes; they did not used to talk glowingly of Tim Sherwood in the marble halls of the Bernabéu.
 

SugarRay

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Pochettino: “To compete in this type of game, I think we are ready.. but to win is different. The most important thing is we are in this process,..that with me, or with another coaching staff, the club need to push in that direction.”

Bit worried to be honest

If that’s the case, fuck him. Ancelotti is a winner, Conte is a winner, there’s plenty out there that have actually won stuff. Pay them the right money, they’ll come. They will win stuff with this squad too.
 

fortworthspur

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What would the message have been if he started Hugo? "It doesn't matter how badly you perform, or how well the backup does, you'll still be selected purely on reputation"?
reputation? how about quality? as in the best players play. if you feel Vorm is the best, say so.
 
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SC has hit the wall.

This is just the start of it. From now on it's only going to go one way until we change manager.
I look forward to the new rent-a-quote taking over then, sure everyone will be happy for the good old days.

Let's be regressive and not progressive.

:LOL:
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Listen, if Poch wants to go, f him.
I'll happily give him all the abuse in the world, for giving us all so much hope/promise, failing and then ditching us as soon as the opportunity arose. Seriously, what a waste of time he would've been if he goes, he's done nothing since being here. So, if he really wants to go, fuck you Poch :)
Now that you've started posting, is rampant idiocy going to be your leitmotif?
 

thebenjamin

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I’m basing that on Poch looking to go, which I don’t think he is.

What I’m saying, IF he is looking to go, then fuck him.

You don't think he's looking to go. No suggestion he's going anywhere. But fuck him just in case. As you were
 
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